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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:38 PM
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Dr. Laura son linked to lurid Web page - Site contained violent, sex-oriented images
So much for family values.

Dr. Laura son linked to lurid Web page
Site contained violent, sex-oriented images one official called 'repulsive'



By Matthew D. LaPlante
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune

Article Last Updated:05/19/2007 12:15:45 AM MDT

The soldier son of talk radio relationship counselor Laura Schlessinger is under investigation for a graphic personal Web page that one Army official has called "repulsive."

The MySpace page, publicly available until Friday when it disappeared from the Internet, included cartoon depictions of rape, murder, torture and child molestation; photographs of soldiers with guns in their mouths; a photograph of a bound and blindfolded detainee captioned "My Sweet Little Habib"; accounts of illicit drug use; and a blog entry headlined by a series of obscenities and racial epithets.

The site is credited to and includes many photographs of Deryk Schlessinger, the 21-year-old son of the talk radio personality known simply as Dr. Laura. Broadcast locally on 570 KNRS, "Family Values Talk Radio," the former family counselor spends three hours daily taking calls and offering advice on morals, ethics and values. She broadcast a show from Fort Douglas, in Salt Lake City, last week.

Military leaders have long grappled with how to balance positive publicity and operational security with technological opportunities for troops to tell their personal stories.
The Pentagon last week shut down access to a variety of video-sharing and social networking Internet sites, including MySpace, on its computer systems worldwide. Officials said the change was made to enhance security and protect a strained bandwidth, but critics worried that it might close a public window into the lives of deployed U.S. troops, some of which can be raw, frightening, violent and revealing.

"Yes . . . F---ING Yes!!!" said one blog entry on the Schlessinger site. "I LOVE MY JOB, it takes everything reckless and deviant and heathenistic and just overall bad about me and hyper focuses these traits into my job of running around this horrid place doing nasty things to people that deserve it . . . and some that don't."

Deryk Schlessinger joined the Army in 2004, telling a crowd of Santa Barbara, Calif., Army reservists gathered for an appearance by his mother that he resented the way Americans criticize the war without recognizing soldiers' sacrifices.

Much more >>>

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_5934072
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:41 PM
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1. Wasn't she supposed to hve been investigated?
Remember during the election when she got on the radio and told people to call the democrats telephone number they used for transporting people to the polls. So many republicans called they jammed the phones and she just laughed about it.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:46 PM
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7. Wrong Laura
That was Laura Ingraham.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:46 PM
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8. That was the other Laura - Laura Ingraham
They're both Bushbots, though.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:43 PM
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2. Hey You!
:hug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:52 PM
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11. Hey!!
:hug:

DU, I wish I could quit you...

:rofl:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:00 PM
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17. Ha! Glad you can't
I can't either.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:20 PM
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55. Likewise
:hi: Good to see you again, helderheid! :hug:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:43 PM
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3. As a reminder, Ft. Douglas is where she told the military wives to quit whining
and said that her son was overseas but she wouldn't reveal where because he'd be a target like Prince Harry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=877750&mesg_id=877750
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:04 PM
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74. yeah, because obviously he's a real "prince" himself.
She's such a bitch. I can't believe she has the NERVE to tell other people how to live. First her mom lies dead for days in her apartment and now we find out her son is a psycho.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:06 PM
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75. She also thinks that VA Tech students should have had weapons and weapons training
to deal with Cho.

http://www.drlaura.com/blog/

"As a mother I, of course, thought about how horrendous this whole nightmare is to the families of the victims as well as all the emotional damage to the survivors. From listening to the reports on this heinous occurrence, I heard repeatedly that the shooter had to reload several times and went from classroom to classroom. As a military mom, I immediately wished that our young people had the same obligation and experience that all young folks in Israel have: two years of military training and service. Those reloading and trolling periods were windows of opportunity that only young folks trained militarily would have been able to use to subdue or terminate the perp and save many lives..."
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:08 PM
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76. I'll bet being able to say "As a military mom" just makes her have tiny orgasms.
Edited on Sun May-20-07 08:08 PM by Iris
She's such a tool. I think of all the talk show morons I hate her the most because she has the potential to DIRECTLY destroy a person's life with her harsh, judgmental "advice".
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:44 PM
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4. Hmmm, son is a tastless twit; mother lay dead & unnoticed for 2 months...
yeah, Dr Laura is sure the one to be telling the rest of us how to deal with family.

OT: hi :hi: helderheid :hug: :party: :loveya:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:48 PM
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10. And don't forget the sister who she denies having
They haven't spoken for decades.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:42 PM
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32. 3 months I believe.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:45 PM
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5. What a filthy disgusting puke. The son is garbage too.
:rofl:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:46 PM
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6. Laura the old hypocrite nude exhibitionist who found "Jesus"
Is anyone surprised by this family tree?
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:56 PM
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14. Last I heard, she converted to Judaism
When did she find Jesus?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 06:41 PM
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72. An interesting article about Dr Laura and Judaism.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:10 PM
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77. Thanks, an interesting read!
:kick:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:57 PM
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15. Who then found Conservative Judaism
Then quickly dropped that for Orthodox Judaism.

A wee bit of a problem committing to things.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:59 PM
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16. Last I heard she'd dumped that too.
I don't know what her latest delivery from the Religion of the Month Club was though.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:03 PM
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18. Thanks for correcting me, I never really paid attention to her shit
I use to listen to her a long time ago just for the comedy
that none of her supporters caught. I laughed at all the wrong parts.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:47 PM
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9. All in all...
Just the kind of family for a reality show.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:54 PM
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12. Dr. Laura's son sounds like he's really screwed up
"Yes . . . F---ING Yes!!!" said one blog entry on the Schlessinger site. "I LOVE MY JOB, it takes everything reckless and deviant and heathenistic and just overall bad about me and hyper focuses these traits into my job of running around this horrid place doing nasty things to people that deserve it . . . and some that don't."
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:31 PM
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27. This comes as no surprise
I used to listen to her show sometimes back in the late eighties and early nineties (out of boredom and lack of anything better to listen to) and she would brag about what a wonderful, perfect job she was doing of raising him and how he was going to turn out to be such a respectable, God-fearing young man. She would talk about how she didn't care at all if he was exposed to violence, it was the sex she didn't want him to see. I remember thinking that I would feel just the opposite if I had a child. I also remember thinking "That kid is going to grow up to be some kind of psycho." So now the chickens have come home to roost and I'm not surprised at all.
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:38 PM
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30. I imagine he despises her beyond words..
and is hard pressed to find enough ways to demonstrate it! Thats pretty much how I would feel, anyway.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:56 PM
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13. Big K&R #5!!1 n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:06 PM
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19. HAHA!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:06 PM
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20. "Schlessinger...wrote.... 'I never whine to my son when he is able to call between missions."
Well, duh. There's no time to whine when you're arguing about whose turn it is to wear the nipple clamps.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:07 PM
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21. Schaddenfreude for breakfast and it was delicious!!!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:11 PM
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22. nice job, Mom . . . n/t
.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:14 PM
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23. I feel sorry for the kid
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:16 PM
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24. MORE from the article (not for the faint at heart)
The site indicated Schlessinger's team has survived numerous mortar, rocket and roadside bomb attacks. It also included several graphic cartoons. In one of the stick drawings, a top-hatted man laughs as he rapes a bound and bleeding woman in front of her family. In another depiction, a man forces a boy to perform oral sex at knifepoint as the child's mother pleads for her son's life.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:17 PM
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25. Well, she raised that boy right!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:45 PM
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33. As I sad on a similar thread, I think the army and the conditions are more to blame than Laura
Not that she bears no blame, but even the nicest kids can be turned into horrendous psychopaths by certain kinds of military training, a completely unpredictable and unwinnable war situation, and vile, inhumane orders from CACI.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 03:09 PM
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34. I agree. n/t
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:28 PM
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42. Screw her- You do know what she said to the families of troops?
Right-wing radio host Laura Schlessinger,

“in Salt Lake City on Friday to speak to Army families at Fort Douglas,

said she was tired of hearing the complaints of lonely and overwhelmed military wives whose husbands are deployed. ‘He could come back without arms, legs or eyeballs, and you’re (whining)?‘

Schlessinger asked before taking the stage at the base theater to host her daily program on ethics, morals and values.

‘You’re not dodging bullets, so I don’t want to hear any whining — that’s my message to them.’” May 14, 2007
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:18 PM
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44. I heard that. And I'm not excusing her own behavior, which is vile. But Deryk's behavior seems
much more connected to the behavior of other young people who have been trained to torture, kill, and remain sitting ducks in places where death could come at any moment from anywhere.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:58 PM
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46. I would guess that his upbringing made him more susceptible...
... to that kind of training.

I absolutely agree that a perfectly normal, lovely person can be changed too--probably more because they aren't prepared for the horrors they're seeing than because it was latent in their personality or due to flaws in their upbringing. But somehow I doubt that Dr. Laura's son ever had much of a shot at growing up into a perfectly normal, lovely person, whether he went to war or not.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:00 PM
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47. I am sure he was raised with quite a bit of anger and misogyny.
His mother had both of those in ample portions.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 02:02 PM
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79. Then why aren't they all depicting this on MySpace pages?
Sorry, I have to disagree. It's one thing to hold violent sexual fantasies, it's another to depict them, and quite another still to publicly display them--that is where the line is definitively crossed.

This is a kid with problems--he's not typical of our in-service military.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:26 PM
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26. Oh....Geez.....
I am so glad we have the repukes to teach us about "family values" and "morality". :rofl:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:12 PM
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28. SUH-PRAZ! SUH-PRAZ SUH-PRAZ!
Just another case of twisted hypocrisy breeding more of the same.

It seems to be at an absolutely epidemic level in the Repuke environment.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:35 PM
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29. She claims her son is a Marine on her show, the article says he's Army....
Color me confuzzled...

Surely she wouldn't LIE???
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 03:10 PM
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35. I've heard her show a few times
and have only heard her call him an Army paratrooper.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:42 PM
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31. What a freak
Now, who could have guessed he would have problems, after having been raised by a hypocritical, fanatical puritan asshole?

:crazy:
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Digital Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 03:19 PM
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36. I really don't get how...
so many of us liberals indict family members for the political beliefs of their relatives.

Do we really believe that all people deserve a free opinion and voice, or are all guilty by association?

(rational post being deleted in 5..4..3..2..)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. he's being indicted because of HIS behavior
not because his mother's political beliefs.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 04:38 PM
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39. Oh thanks for stopping by a posting a "rational" post.
Apparently you missed the entire point of the article, which is the soldier's SICK, PERVERTED website.

Maybe work on your reasoning ability a bit, Mr. Rational.

Or you could go join the Army too! The military needs rational types like yourself.

www.goarmy.com
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 04:43 PM
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40. Like Chelsea Clinton being called "The White House Dog" by Rush Limbaugh
when she had done NOTHING wrong except have a daddy that Rush was trashing?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:37 PM
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50. Yes, "us liberals".
:eyes:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:34 AM
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61. You thought that was a little suspect, eh?
:)

(I agree)
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 03:39 PM
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37. Hey HEY!! Welcome back....I have been missing the local perspective here! n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:21 PM
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41. Hey hey neighbor!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:08 PM
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43. She's B-A-A-A-CK!!!
GREAT to see ya, HH!!! :loveya:
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:54 PM
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45. just yesterday I was thinking about how much I missed you
So glad to see you back! :woohoo:

:loveya:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:34 PM
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49. OMG~~~~ YOU!
:hug:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:10 PM
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48. IMO she is a sadist.
Edited on Sat May-19-07 09:12 PM by antfarm
Her entire program is an exercise in attacking people, shaming them, and making them feel like shit. It seems to be how she deals with people, and she revels in it. I cannot imagine what growing up in that family as her son must have been like.

And you've got to wonder what his motivations were for posting that sort of stuff publicly. Aside from whatever person demons and depravity he is expressing, I wonder if there is a part of him that knew he would humiliate his mother.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:40 PM
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51. Let that be a lesson to all new parents - STOP with the "creative" spelling!
What a burden you put on your children! Clearly, Dr. Laura's son couldn't take it and it drove him mad. "Deryk" indeed! :rofl:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:42 PM
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52. I'm going to defend Deryk Schlesinger on this
Edited on Sat May-19-07 09:52 PM by brentspeak
Why? Because all he's doing is writing crazy things. Is he actually doing the things depicted on his website? There's no indication of that at all.

Some people react strangely to extreme stress, and Schlesinger is definitely experiencing extreme stress being in Iraq. This is his way of trying to deal with it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:52 PM
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53. 'man forces a boy to perform oral sex at knifepoint as the child's mother pleads for her son's life'
I'm wondering how much stress I would have to be under to have that scenario fertilize in my mind.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:01 PM
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54. It's not the kind of thing I would write or draw if I was in his situation
But I'm not him. And I think we can agree that what's going in Iraq is not your usual situation.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 12:08 AM
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57. What is "usual" for a soldier?
Care to define your personal experience with
your historical academic knowledge on that one?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 02:50 AM
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60. We can agree that this kid is twisted.
Somehow I think Mama and her peculiar world view had something to do with it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 12:00 AM
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:59 AM
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64. After you add several layers of insanity passed through generations
The thing about any moral ambiguity is kind of a distant afterthought :shrug:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:16 AM
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65. You know the Mark Twain quote about how it's better to remain silent
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 12:16 AM
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58. you're back you're back you're back! damn! i was just thinking
about you recently (and i hardly know you! am i psychic???)


so...here is a present....it's michael moore on voice mail talking to the jerk who runs moorewatch.com --apparently moore gave the guy thousands of dollars to help w/the wife's medical bills. so michael calls him today before the screening of his movie to tell him that it was he who donated the money.
http://www.moorewatch.com/Michael_Moore_Voicemail.mp3
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 11:39 AM
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66. LOL!
:hi:

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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 12:22 AM
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59. Hi, I am dr. laura shitslinger
and i am my sons mom!!!111!!!

ha ha I'm sure Bartcop gets a hold of this story and runs with it:rofl:
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 06:34 AM
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62. oh wow
thanks for posting this.

I can't stand that woman.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:31 AM
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63. Laura must have missed that class at Regent U !
Talk about your kids rebelling!! :rofl:

Poor Laura!!! :sarcasm:
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:45 PM
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67. *kick*
For those who missed it earlier :dem:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:19 PM
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68. ponta-pé

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:41 PM
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69. Like mother, like son? They both are mentally ill. nt
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:58 PM
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70. He sounds just like his dear old mumsy. No surprise whatsoever.
Wonder if, when his mum passes away, if he will leave her corpse to rot for two months like she did with his grancma?
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 06:26 PM
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71. It's probably a fake
I have seen many web pages for politicians and other well known people that are obviously not produced by the actual person. They are parodies.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 07:12 PM
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73. So you think the Salt Lake paper got it wrong?
?
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 01:49 PM
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78. That's not what I said
The article I have no doubt is accurate--but anybody can put up a myspace page and call it anybody's name they want to put to it.

For instance, check out this myspace page (if the link works):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=17583457

Do you really think it's Jimmy Carter, talking about the "hot babes" in his administration?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 03:17 PM
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80. I am *SO* not surprised
Here's a link that is NOT safe for work, of Derek Schlesinger's sainted Mommy... NAKED!
http://www.pencilnecks.com/Laura.htm
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