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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:12 PM
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Empire v. Democracy (intense read)
Empire v. Democracy
Why Nemesis Is at Our Door

by Chalmers Johnson


History tells us that one of the most unstable political combinations is a country -- like the United States today -- that tries to be a domestic democracy and a foreign imperialist. Why this is so can be a very abstract subject. Perhaps the best way to offer my thoughts on this is to say a few words about my new book, Nemesis, and explain why I gave it the subtitle, "The Last Days of the American Republic." Nemesis is the third book to have grown out of my research over the past eight years. I never set out to write a trilogy on our increasingly endangered democracy, but as I kept stumbling on ever more evidence of the legacy of the imperialist pressures we put on many other countries as well as the nature and size of our military empire, one book led to another.

Professionally, I am a specialist in the history and politics of East Asia. In 2000, I published Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire, because my research on China, Japan, and the two Koreas persuaded me that our policies there would have serious future consequences. The book was noticed at the time, but only after 9/11 did the CIA term I adapted for the title -- "blowback" -- become a household word and my volume a bestseller.

I had set out to explain how exactly our government came to be so hated around the world. As a CIA term of tradecraft, "blowback" does not just mean retaliation for things our government has done to, and in, foreign countries. It refers specifically to retaliation for illegal operations carried out abroad that were kept totally secret from the American public. These operations have included the clandestine overthrow of governments various administrations did not like, the training of foreign militaries in the techniques of state terrorism, the rigging of elections in foreign countries, interference with the economic viability of countries that seemed to threaten the interests of influential American corporations, as well as the torture or assassination of selected foreigners. The fact that these actions were, at least originally, secret meant that when retaliation does come -- as it did so spectacularly on September 11, 2001 -- the American public is incapable of putting the events in context. Not surprisingly, then, Americans tend to support speedy acts of revenge intended to punish the actual, or alleged, perpetrators. These moments of lashing out, of course, only prepare the ground for yet another cycle of blowback.

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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:57 PM
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1. Wow, this sunk ...
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bring_em_home_bush Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:09 PM
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2. more from the article
We are on the brink of losing our democracy for the sake of keeping our empire. Once a nation starts down that path, the dynamics that apply to all empires come into play -- isolation, overstretch, the uniting of local and global forces opposed to imperialism, and in the end bankruptcy.

History is instructive on this dilemma. If we choose to keep our empire, as the Roman republic did, we will certainly lose our democracy and grimly await the eventual blowback that imperialism generates. There is an alternative, however. We could, like the British Empire after World War II, keep our democracy by giving up our empire. The British did not do a particularly brilliant job of liquidating their empire and there were several clear cases where British imperialists defied their nation's commitment to democracy in order to hang on to foreign privileges. The war against the Kikuyu in Kenya in the 1950s and the Anglo-French-Israeli invasion of Egypt in 1956 are particularly savage examples of that. But the overall thrust of postwar British history is clear: the people of the British Isles chose democracy over imperialism.

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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:18 PM
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4. Yes, I took note of that as well.
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:18 PM
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:21 PM
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5. As a kid i grew up on several of those bases in Europe, and then
later was stationed on Okinawa during my own service. At the time I didn't understand why DeGaulle kicked us out of France - he was supposed to be an ally. Libya, I understood, because Kadaffi had just seized power and he was a crazy man. (On re-reading, it sounds like I was in France and Libya at the time. I was in Germany when we were asked to leave France, and in Spain when Kadaffi gave us the boot, and met many other dependents who had been in those countries.)

It was years, not until I went to Oki, that I understood how much the US bases were resented by much of the populace of the countries I lived in. We were the good guys, keeping the soviets at bay. At some level, many of the locals may have felt the same way. But since the collapese of the soviet union, what is the rationale behind those 737 official bases (not counting the little facilities like secret prisons).

I was raised in the heart of the empire, and did not see it for what it is. How much harder, then, for those who have no idea about the impact those overseas bases have?

I'm not an isolationist, but we HAVE to close down those bases and bring our people home.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:33 PM
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:36 PM
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 04:50 PM
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8. A country can be democratic or it can be imperialistic, but it cannot be both
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...The combination of huge standing armies, almost continuous wars, an ever growing economic dependence on the military-industrial complex and the making of weaponry, and ruinous military expenses as well as a vast, bloated "defense" budget, not to speak of the creation of a whole second Defense Department (known as the Department of Homeland Security) has been destroying our republican structure of governing in favor of an imperial presidency. By republican structure, of course, I mean the separation of powers and the elaborate checks and balances that the founders of our country wrote into the Constitution as the main bulwarks against dictatorship and tyranny, which they greatly feared.

We are on the brink of losing our democracy for the sake of keeping our empire. Once a nation starts down that path, the dynamics that apply to all empires come into play -- isolation, overstretch, the uniting of local and global forces opposed to imperialism, and in the end bankruptcy.

History is instructive on this dilemma. If we choose to keep our empire, as the Roman republic did, we will certainly lose our democracy and grimly await the eventual blowback that imperialism generates. There is an alternative, however. We could, like the British Empire after World War II, keep our democracy by giving up our empire. The British did not do a particularly brilliant job of liquidating their empire and there were several clear cases where British imperialists defied their nation's commitment to democracy in order to hang on to foreign privileges. The war against the Kikuyu in Kenya in the 1950s and the Anglo-French-Israeli invasion of Egypt in 1956 are particularly savage examples of that. But the overall thrust of postwar British history is clear: the people of the British Isles chose democracy over imperialism.

In her book The Origins of Totalitarianism, the political philosopher Hannah Arendt offered the following summary of British imperialism and its fate:

"On the whole it was a failure because of the dichotomy between the nation-state's legal principles and the methods needed to oppress other people permanently. This failure was neither necessary nor due to ignorance or incompetence. British imperialists knew very well that 'administrative massacres' could keep India in bondage, but they also knew that public opinion at home would not stand for such measures. Imperialism could have been a success if the nation-state had been willing to pay the price, to commit suicide and transform itself into a tyranny. It is one of the glories of Europe, and especially of Great Britain, that she preferred to liquidate the empire."

I agree with this judgment. When one looks at Prime Minister Tony Blair's unnecessary and futile support of Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq, one can only conclude that it was an atavistic response, that it represented a British longing to relive the glories -- and cruelties -- of a past that should have been ancient history.

As a form of government, imperialism does not seek or require the consent of the governed. It is a pure form of tyranny. The American attempt to combine domestic democracy with such tyrannical control over foreigners is hopelessly contradictory and hypocritical. A country can be democratic or it can be imperialistic, but it cannot be both.

/...

Perhaps post a link to this in the 'National Security' forum, since a dedicated 'International Affairs' forum is still lacking (cf. discussion here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=67272&mesg_id=67272 )?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 05:08 PM
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9. K&R nt
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:01 PM
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10. Thank you. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:11 PM
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11. I have his "The Sorrows of Empire"
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 06:11 PM by mmonk
I consider it one of the best and most informative reads I own. It changed my world view quite a bit, explains alot and provides warnings.
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