Fundie post from a Brownback supporter

[knight_of_the_star]

Something some guy calling himself Sisyphus put up, it is rather funny. My comments on it are under the sn Mr. Smith:

Heliocentrism is an Atheist Doctrine
Filed under: Faith, Science — Sisyphus @ 10:04 am

What’s even worse than the debate raging in American schools about the teaching of the soulless doctrine of evolution, is the non-debate over an issue that rational Americans have foolishly conceded to the secular among us: the issue of Heliocentrism, or the idea that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

Now, it has to be granted that there may be some mathematical evidence going either way; mathematically speaking, Copernicus may be on ground nearly as firm as that of Tycho Brahe. Right-thinking people know the correct doctrine, however:

Heliocentrism is the view that the sun is at the center of the universe. It was proposed by some ancient Greeks,<1> and became the dominant view in the 1700s and 1800s. It was abandoned in the 20th century.

Since the advent of relativity theory in the early 1900s, the laws of physics have been written in covariant equations, meaning that they are equally valid in any frame. Heliocentric and geocentric theories are both used today, depending on which allows more convenient calculations

It seems clear that it may occasionally be convenient to assume that the calculations of Copernicus and Kepler were mathematically sound. However, for both moral and theological reasons, we should always bear in mind that the Earth does not move. If it moved, we would feel it moving. That’s called empiricism, the experience of the senses. Don’t take my word for it, or the evidence of your own senses, Copernicans.

More: http://blogs4brownback.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/heliocentrism-is-an-atheist-doctrine/

[Deep13]

1. This must be sarcasm.

Is it really possible for anyone to be that stupid and still be able to write?

[knight_of_the_star]

5. I don't think it is

Judging by later comments downthread by the original author, he looks like he's dead serious.

[Infomaniac]

13. I thought the same thing - the author was joking - until I read about 50 of his comments

I suspect he took the name "Sisyphus" about a man - mostly on his knees rolling a rock uphill - to avoid thinking of what he really wants to do on his knees.

[knight_of_the_star]

15. That or he's a blind idealist

Thinking he can actually push the rock up the hill or thinks it sounds cool.

[baldguy]

2. And what's all the heathen propaganda about God's Earth being round?

Anyone with eyes can see it's flat!

[Gman]

3. Geocentrism is gaining traction in the fundie community

they're starting to figure that if they can believe in creationism, geocentrism must also follow.

I say, good and great! I hope they start making it an issue very soon at school board meetings. All the more we can slap the nutcase label on them.

[VTMechEngr]

23. Indeed. nt

[karlrschneider]

4. He's either a really shitty satirist

or crazier than a shithouse rat.

[Richard Steele]

7. It's really hard to tell, isn't it?

I honestly can't tell which it is.

[Frank Cannon]

10. I honestly can't tell the difference between satire and reality...

any more. This country is so messed up. We are told up is down and 2 + 2 = 5 every day, and we're fully expected to just deal with it.

[ComerPerro]

6. its satire. 98% sure

[GCP]

8. Exactly

This guy is good - most of the knuckle-draggers have no idea he's taking the piss.

[ComerPerro]

12. well, after looking more deeply into his site I am a little torn

he is way over the top. But so are some fundies.

So he could be legit.

But if not, holy shit is he dedicated, lol

[donco6]

9. I still think he's just goofing around.

I mean, Sisyphus? Rolling the rock up the hill for all eternity? But he's pretty convincing . . .

[Infomaniac]

11. Christ on a crutch. The blogger is serious or "series" in freeper speak. Recommended.

How do you get to be so damn stupid? Copernicus was wrong? Give me a break.

[lies and propaganda]

14. thats the most verbose Freep I ever seen!

wow!

[knight_of_the_star]

18. He probably took English classes

Just English so he could be this well spoken.

And CSIS 100 so he could actually use his computer and the internet.

[lies and propaganda]

24. they are well trained in the Keyboard Brigade

;)

[formercia]

16. Don't give him too much coverage

or Junior might put him in charge of NASA.

[Infomaniac]

17. LOL

He'd be perfect. I think Brownback would put this guy in charge of the Department of Education.

[knight_of_the_star]

19. No we should give him coverage

After we figure out a way to make sure Brownback gets the GOP nom, its a perfect example of the type of knuckledraggers that love him.

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. I think the blogs4brownback site is satire

but, as far as I can tell, this site is a real Colorado conservative site - and they think it's real: http://www.totheright.org/?p=459

In any case, the fixedearth.com site from which a lot of the nuttiness comes from is genuine - it was the site at the centre of the Georgia/Texas state senators "Copernicanism is a Jewish plot" brouhaha a couple of months ago. But there is potential for mischief here - if some Republicans think they have to worry about anti-semitic nutcases among their supporters, it will distract them, at least.

[knight_of_the_star]

21. Not hard to make this an issue

It is entirely possible that there are some people on there who are genuine believers in what is being said. That and the OP there is waaay too vehement and consistent for me to think its just a joke.

[MN ChimpH8R]

22. Dumbest, most willfully ignorant fundie EVER

This really retires the title for good. I mean, really, how ignorant can this individual be? Jeebus, how can anyone this to-the-bone cretinous even manage to turn on and use a computer? "Earth does not move"?

This is actually frightening. Even more frightening is that these sub-morons vote. :scared: