illinoisprogressive
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Mon May-21-07 09:39 PM
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We are paying 3.48 today for gas. At midnight it goes up another 15 cents. |
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I live outside of Chicago and we have the highest gas prices in the nation. a friend of my husband's told him that tomorrow the gas is going up another 15 cents. this is ridiculous. the selfish pigs who run around in their gas hogs sucking up gas are just as responsible as the gas companies. And those of us who buy our cars with how much gas it gets have to pay for their hogishness. I bought my car 4 years ago and was looked at as crazy when I asked how much the mileage was. I always have been aware and concerned about the high gas use of the country and the psychological need for more and bigger. I just wished people would be as concerned while they drive their gas pigs and drive the price up so all of us pay for their selfishness.
Sorry, but, I had to rant. I knew we would run out and kept seeing these huge SUVs and no one cared. And I resent having to pay because alot of people are so selfish. I just don't understand the need of people in this country to always have things bigger and have more. Who the hell needs a damn tv in their car?!???
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Mon May-21-07 09:42 PM
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1. My 18 year old suv gets about 10 mpg in the city, but I supply oil to the market |
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so am I thanked for selling my oil or damned for using some of it after it's refined?
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Mon May-21-07 09:43 PM
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2. When you know you're about to be out of a job, don't you load up on Post-Its? |
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And staples and legal pads? You start squirreling away all the "petty" stuff you've take for granted over your tenure. These guys are no different, just operating on a MASSIVE scale. The handwriting is on the wall. The gravy train is coming to an end. They're loading up on Post-Its and dollars before the fall of the Oil Party.
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Mon May-21-07 09:48 PM
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5. Oil is the surplus... Its the refineries that can't keep up. |
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Mon May-21-07 10:58 PM
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16. The refineries don't WANT to keep up! |
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It's their bullshit "can't keep up" excuse that is causing $3.50 gasoline...soon to be $4.50, then...
How much money did Exxon-Mobile make last QUARTER? A new refinery is estimated to cost a whopping $2-3 billion.
Now look up how much Exxon-Mobile made last QUARTER.
Why the bloody hell would Exxon-Mobile want to build a new refinery? That would increase supply, which would alleviate the need to gouge $4-plus for a gallon of gasoline. Another poster replied the other day that it couldn't be true because "they'd make more money by having more gas to sell." :rofl: Yeah, right. That poster obviously doesn't understand the concept of supply and demand.
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Mon May-21-07 11:20 PM
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22. We're at or past peak oil |
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Investing in new refineries wouldn't make sense financially. By the time they're up and running, the supply of oil would be beginning to slow. No company would invest in anything so expensive under these circumstances.
And the further we get past peak, the more expensive oil will be. It's a finite resource.
The only way to spend less for oil is to drive less.
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Mon May-21-07 11:34 PM
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23. How long since a new refinery has even been PROPOSED? |
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Thirty years?
Hey, I'm not going to bat for the Oil Co's. I want alternatives. But if they actually knew what you're claiming thirty years ago, why didn't they raise priced then, average things out? Because they're lying treasonous price-gouging bastards, that's why. They have no interest in doing ANYTHING that might make a shareholder raise his hand at the next meeting. Again...they made BILLIONS of dollars in the last ONE QUARTER. They could build a refinery with their petty cash. But they don't/wont. Why not? Because they're only in it to make shitloads of money, like any company which must answer to shareholders. Money. Dividends. Shareholders.
We could have three new refineries right now with the PROFITS Exxon-Mobile made last quarter.
But nooooooooooo. You and I should pay for them so poor little Exxon-Mobile execs don't have to feel uncomfortable at the next annual meeting.
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Mon May-21-07 11:39 PM
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24. Well, you may be paying them but they're not making much off me |
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I walk or take the bus whenever possible, and drive a car that gets 30+ miles to the gallon. I can go weeks on a single tank. If you don't want to pay them, don't.
But they know Americans are addicted. So, they'll charge what the market will bear.
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Tue May-22-07 08:55 AM
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27. Actually, we went out and bought a small car that gets 32 mpg |
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Twice what our small SUV gets. We keep the SUV because we do have a use for it, but it remains parked most of the time now. My studio is in my house, so my commute is zero. We moved close to my wife's office -- 2 1/2 miles -- so a tank of gas lasts a pretty long time for us, too. Unfortunately, as close to my wife's office as we are, public transportation isn't practical and biking isn't safe (we're on the west side of the Connecticut River, her office is on the east, and the bridge between us has no walking/biking access). So believe me, we do what we can. And while I used Exxon-Mobil as an example, I actually never give them a dime of my money. I haven't patronized them since the Exxon Valdez disaster. When they merged with Mobil, I scratched them off my list, too.
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Mon May-21-07 11:05 PM
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18. You apologists for these snakes are a riot! |
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I hope they're paying you for this. :rofl:
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Mon May-21-07 10:27 PM
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Mon May-21-07 09:43 PM
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3. I saw an LTTE in my daily newspaper today |
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blaming the gas prices on the DEMOCRATS.:crazy:
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Mon May-21-07 09:46 PM
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4. Everyone knows it's Clinton's fault. |
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Mon May-21-07 10:01 PM
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6. Well the OP would probably agree with that statement |
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It is so ignorant and spews in every Hillary thread. I just can't get worked up
over its pain
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Mon May-21-07 10:04 PM
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7. California has the highest prices in the nation |
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not Chicago - $3.48 would be a bargain around here (SF Bay Area). Currently $3.59 is average and Shell, for some reason, is charging $3.64-$3.69.
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Mon May-21-07 10:17 PM
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9. Not according to the Associated Press |
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Chicago's prices are higher, due to a fire at a refinery taht supplied large parts of the Chicago area. The Lundberg survey says Chicago's prices are the highest, and Charleston, SC's are the lowest. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070520/ap_on_bi_ge/gas_prices
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Mon May-21-07 10:56 PM
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15. CA does have highest prices. See link in post #13 |
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Mon May-21-07 11:14 PM
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Lundberg isn't filling up here in California. It's up to 3.85 in this little Cali town and will most likely take another jump just before the (holiday) weekend here. Gotta gouge all those vacationers, dontcha know?
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Mon May-21-07 10:23 PM
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Edited on Mon May-21-07 10:24 PM by Screwfly
are just chicken assholes, and they would drive an M-1 tank that uses 8 gallons per mile if they could. Why such people take the risk of driving a car, or even getting out of bed in morning for that matter, for fear they'll have an accident puzzles to me.
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Mon May-21-07 10:13 PM
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8. With Bush & Co 's time running out, (only a year & a half to go) |
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you can be certain they will suck every possible dime from the people of this Nation as well as drain all they can from our U.S. Treasury. They will stall on policy change while pushing through laws that secure their financial futures once they are gone from office. This has been their one & only mission since day one. In the end they will proudly offer their cohorts a fond "high-five" and declare their "Mission Accomplished".
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Mon May-21-07 10:51 PM
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12. My little tin hat theory, |
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this is bush's fuck you America for taking away my ass sucking congress.
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Tue May-22-07 09:43 AM
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30. Or maybe the oil company butt munches.. |
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Bush/Cheney will be out soon, so the party is winding down, make the profits while you can kiddles.
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Mon May-21-07 10:52 PM
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13. Chicago gas prices comparable in many other parts of country--you're not alone! |
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Mon May-21-07 10:54 PM
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14. get ready for $4 a gallon |
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i think it will happen sometime in the summer. Here in Oregon we get screwed on the gas too just like California and always have high prices. Next year, it will be $5 a gallon if they think they can get away with it.
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Mon May-21-07 11:03 PM
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17. Sooner or later there won't be any more petroleum |
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It might be useful to learn a little self-discipline now.
Just sayin'.
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Mon May-21-07 11:10 PM
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19. Sacrifice now for a possibly better future? |
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Edited on Mon May-21-07 11:13 PM by loindelrio
Fuck that, I'm an American.
(The warning lights are flashing, will the sheeple heed them. Doubtful. They are sheep, after all, and it is their nature)
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Mon May-21-07 11:16 PM
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21. Yeah, what was I thinking? |
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Mon May-21-07 11:55 PM
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25. As the price goes up people appear to be MORE wasteful |
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By limiting my old Buick century to 60 mph by day and 50 by night I get 28.5-29.5 MPG, depending on the breaks. I have been doing this for the last $1.20 in price hikes. There is no public transportation, and there isn't going to be It is my grim misfortune to be forced to commute 40 miles each way to my Serf sector McJob at the call center. People routinely blow past me at 80-90 mph in large trucks or SUVs. Some actually shake their fists or deploy the "bird". At night they wallow behind me trying to get their brights into my mirror rather than passing. Are they all rich enough to ignore prices or just stupid?
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Mon May-21-07 11:59 PM
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26. Maybe both, but certainly stupid. |
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Thanks for doing what you can!
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Tue May-22-07 10:03 AM
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34. My husband used to hot-rod it everywhere and then wondered |
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why his gas mileage was so much worse than mine (we both have 6-cylander engines).
I told him his would never be AS good as mine, simply because I have a manual transmission and he doesn't, but, that if he wanted to conserve, he needed to find a constant speed around 60ish and stay there when traffic allows. He has and it's improved his mileage.
I don't know why people don't seem to understand this. :shrug:
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Tue May-22-07 09:18 AM
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28. This is pure, unfettered social darwinism at work. |
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The oil industry won't build new refineries because it is not in their interest to do so. Time for nationalization, my friends.
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Tue May-22-07 09:39 AM
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29. How do we define gas pig? |
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I get that SUVs consume a lot of gas but what about people who take cars when they could bike or walk. Is there a standard we can agree on about how far is too far to bike or walk? I'm open to suggestion.
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Tue May-22-07 10:09 AM
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35. The problem is that most cities weren't designed around |
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pedestrian/bike traffic.
For example, not only could I not bike to work because of the distance, even if I was in Lance Armstrong shape (which I'm not, I'm nearly 9 months pregnant), I would not be able to get to work from here without getting on the interstate and biking/walking on the interstate is illegal. Motorized vehicles only.
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Tue May-22-07 11:25 AM
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37. Lots of car trips don't involve interstates |
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I read one stat where about 40 percent of all car trips are less than two miles.
Just for the record, it does not require Lance Armstrong levels of conditioning to get around on a bike. I like beer. A lot. I'm about 50 pounds overweight and I smoke like a chimney. Nevertheless, I manage to take care of the majority of my transportation needs on a bike.
So my question is, at what point do we start turning excessive auto users into pariahs and how do we define what's excessive.
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Tue May-22-07 09:45 AM
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31. SUVers of the huge type just make me sick. When things get |
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bad, I mean really bad, they are like having a gas station parked in the driveway. :shrug: just say'n.
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Tue May-22-07 09:45 AM
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32. SUVers of the huge type just make me sick. When things get |
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bad, I mean really bad, they are like having a gas station parked in the driveway. :shrug: just say'n.
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Tue May-22-07 09:57 AM
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33. Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch! |
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I paid (only) $2.99 yesterday!
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Tue May-22-07 10:39 AM
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36. I wonder if it's a scorched earth policy |
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being ran on us, and how long before people have had enough of it and really do something about it?
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