I'm sorry, but the Move On woman would have worried me, too..

[HardWorkingDem]

In this current world of wackiness in our politics, it's hard for me to believe that so many here would not be concerned if a similar stunt was conducted with a Democratic candidate, or for that matter, with Obama.

People need to look at things like this with more open eyes.

Seriously, can anyone here really not believe if some person in a wig approached Obama or Franken or Feingold that he or she would not have been worried?

[polichick]

1. Being worried and stomping on someone's head are two different things. nt

[HardWorkingDem]

8. Wish people would describe things correctly, too....

Saw a foot put on her shoulder and shove with it, but not the head "stomp" everyone is raging about.

[HipChick]

16. Regardless..why do a bunch of men feel the need to assault a woman like this?

a foot on shoulder or head stomp..can't justify either one

[WinkyDink]

41. Macho, macho men........Sing it with me!

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[we can do it]

179. How Bout Just Puttin Your Foot In Your BIG MOUTH

[Hawkowl]

183. Indeed

Playground talk from someone who probably neither actually received or gave a foot to the head as I did.

[Brickbat]

17. Here, why don't you get down on the floor and we'll see how you feel when I shove your shoulder with

my foot. Better yet, hold still and me and the others in this thread will take you down for you.

For crying out loud, listen to yourself.

[polichick]

23. She ended up with a concussion, ya know. nt

[CreekDog]

26. I guess the concussion happened in the ambulance then

not the brightest bulb in the box are we?

[hedgehog]

89. I don't think you understand what a concussion is.

Usually caused by a blow to the head, concussions don't always involve a loss of consciousness. In fact, most people who have concussions never black out. Some people have had concussions and not even realized it.

Concussions are common, particularly if you play a contact sport such as football. But every concussion, no matter how mild, injures your brain. This injury needs time and rest to heal properly. Luckily, most concussions are mild and people usually recover fully.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/concussion/DS00320

What is a concussion?

A concussion is a brain injury that is caused by a sudden blow to the head or to the body. The blow shakes the brain inside the skull, which temporarily prevents the brain from working normally.

Some people have obvious symptoms of a concussion (such as passing out or feeling lightheaded), while others do not. With rest, most people fully recover from concussions within a few hours to a few weeks.
http://www.webmd.com/brain/tc/traumatic-brain-injury-concussion-overview

A petite woman knocked to the ground by a large man could indeed suffer a concussion without being hit in the head.

[CreekDog]

125. why don't you think i understand what a concussion is?

i mentioned it to point out that she was treated more violently than the OP described.

[hedgehog]

136. Sorry about that - I misunderstood you and thought you

were questioning whether she received a concussion. My mistake.

[Mimosa]

234. My MD prof buddy diagnosed she spoke as somebody does after a concussion

The woman stayed down on the ground in shock for nearly a minute after the attack. When she spoke she was in shock.

My friend who specialised in sports medicine also said that had the assailant's foot hit 2.5 to 3 inches closer to her spine, the woman might have been paralysed.

Those who may have perceived her as a threat -if they did- need not have thrown her to the curb. She could have been restrained just by holding her back.

[WinkyDink]

29. You are blithely DISMISSING "a foot put on her shoulder and shove"??? O. M. G. Disgusting.

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[BootinUp]

Her head appeared to slam the cement nt

[blogslut]

43. She suffered a concussion

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/kentucky-attack-victim-suffers-concussion-police-hope-to-identify-suspects-today.php?ref=fpb

[Taverner]

173. Exactly eom

[OneGrassRoot]

64. It was right at her neck....very dangerous. n/t

[Arugula Latte]

238. It looked like she could have gotten a serious spinal injury.

[H2O Man]

85. please

[City Lights]

118. I wish people would describe things correctly, too...

The "foot put on her shoulder and shove with it" have apparently been diagnosed as a concussion and a sprained arm.

[JuniperLea]

124. WTF?

So a stomp to the neck isn't as bad, huh? That's ridiculous! It was a fucking stomp, not "foot put on her shoulder and shove with it" BS. Hands shove, feet stomp. It really makes me sick that you would spin that... very, very disturbing.

[Winterblues]

127. Shoulders get concussions all the time.

:shrug:

[superduperfarleft]

145. A NY Daily News article said she suffered a concussion. n/t

[frogmarch]

146. The guy's heel CLEARLY

stomps down on the back of her head! Watch the video.

[Denzil_DC]

214. Yes. THANK YOU for pointing this out (yet again).

His heel CLEARLY came own on the side of her head with some force - you can SEE her head banging into the sidewalk, FFS!

It's bad enough having right-wing apologists for this brutality claiming I didn't see what I did without it happening here!

And if any Dem "security" attacked an already subdued protester - let alone a slightly built woman - in this way, I hope we'd be livid about it too.

[Goblinmonger]

157. Assume you are 100% correct with your description (which you aren't)

Isn't this a problem? Shouldn't this be criminally prosecuted?

[GSLevel9]

170. but it makes for MUCH better "DRAMA"

not to excuse the act... but it's political season and all the stuff that brings.

[karynnj]

182. Most of us are not experts on head stomping - it looked like he deliberately

applied force to her head!

This is a 23 year old Columbia University graduate. It might actually be that she never saw herself, a petite woman, as threatening - so really could not have anticipated this kind of reaction. Me - I'm reacting as the mom of a petite 23 year old who has non-violently held signed against the School of America and outside a John Yoo luncheon - with friends, who are equally non-threatening.

On the our side, I saw college Republicans holding anti-Democratic signs at a John Kerry rally for Corzine in 2005. All of us ignored them and no one confronted them. But, there is one sign they were paranoid. They were near the end of the parking lot where there was an emergency EMC ambulance. When told by one of the EMT guys that a woman had fainted - from heat exhaustion and requested a photo, be instead asked if she was in the ambulance and offered to go see her. As he purposely walked at a fast clip through the entire crowd, the local paper observed the Young Republicans, who likely thought he was walking towards them, run to a different part of the parking lot.)

[uppityperson]

204. Being worried and shoving on someone's neck are two different things.

I have never ever put my foot on someone's neck or even their shoulder and shoved down.

When I've been worried by someone, I have never put my foot on any part of their body while they were laying on the ground.

Being worried and physically assaulting someone are different things. No matter if it was a head, neck, or shoulder. It was not "being worried".

[WilliamPitt]

210. (facepalm)

[me b zola]

211. WTF is wrong with you?

Her NECK was clealy stomped. Why don't you stop over my house and I'll do the same to you, then you could tell me all about what she went through was nothing. :eyes: :grr:

A big FU to you. :thumbsdown:

[MadHound]

219. Well somewhere along the line she got hit in the head,

After all, she did have a concussion. Looks to me, from viewing the tape, that the "shove" on the neck/shoulder bounced her head off the concrete a bit. What you saw was a classic curb stomp. Force somebody's head and body down to the curb, stomp on them so that their head hits the pavement, hard.

[kath]

223. actually, if you watch it in slow motion (someone here has made a slo-mo loop of it), he DOES step

on her head.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9393038

Even if it was shoulder-not-head, it was still way over the top and utterly uncalled for -- THREE (or more) men wrestle a woman to the ground, hold her there with hands and a foot, and one vigorously STOMPS on her????? ASSAULT, clearly

[HughMoran]

224. Rush Limbaugh agrees with you

:eyes:

[4_Legs_Good]

236. I saw something that could easily have broken her neck

and, to me, it was very reminicent of American History X.

I thought it was utterly brutal from beginning to end and couldn't believe my eyes. When a nutcase approaches the President that way, watch the way the Secret Service deals with it - with no way near the same rage and violence.

I saw an angry mob mentality finally joyful at being able to act out violently. I have no problem with trying to stop someone who one thinks is a threat, but this went way, way way over any necessary line.

David

[Joanne98]

2. Your concern is noted!

[donheld]

180. +1

[DURHAM D]

3. Really. Really?

Worried? Yes.

Tackling and stomping on them? No

[Brickbat]

4. Yes, yes! Tackle and stomp on EVERYONE who approaches!

[ixion]

5. Do hairpieces count? If so, let's beat the crap out of the MSM anchors...

Just sayin...

Whether or not what the woman did was appropriate, there was no need to use excessive force.

[Hello_Kitty]

148. Sam Donaldson better watch the fuck out! eom

[CJCRANE]

6. Some teabaggers have

carried guns at their protests. A blonde wig is hardly something to be afraid of.

[HardWorkingDem]

15. Right all you are saying...

with what is going on in today's politics that if you were a candidate and some person suddenly approached you with a wig on, that you wouldn't be concerned?

[WinkyDink]

32. How about a toupee? A baseball cap? WTH?

[aquart]

33. What, exactly, do wigs signify in your world?

Clown phobia?

[Withywindle]

181. I'm guessing there might have been a bad trip in a wig shop at some point.

I can see it. They are kind of creepy. All those different colors and styles on rows and rows of blank-faced mannequin heads....

:scared:

[EOTE]

47. No, I'd beat the shit out of them.

Everyone knows you can't expect to go outside with a wig and not get the shit kicked out of you. Are you for real? Do you think before making these posts?

[Nite Owl]

121. NO

[CreekDog]

169. I admit that I would be concerned

That badger Paul has on his head could bite.

[Mad_Dem_X]

84. +1,000

[Lagomorph]

194. Unlike some Teabaggers...

she still has all her fingers.

[madmax]

7. People have shown up at rallies for Obama

packing. Don't know what type of gun one dude had strapped on his leg but, it look pretty intimidating to me. Anywhere near where POTUS was speaking, uh to me is just a tad over the top. :shrug: I could be wrong.

[Lance_Boyle]

9. Yeah, it might worry me enough to alert security.

Not quite enough for tackling and stomping. The event wasn't on an airplane, after all, and vigilantism is just not tolerated on solid ground.

[The Magistrate]

10. You Know, Sir, This Is Why We Lose Elections....

Do not, under any circumstances, give an enemy an even break, or the slightest benefit of doubt, or even the hint of a way out of a jam.

A grown man stomped a woman on the sidewalk, for no reason other than hatred of her political views, and did so because he is a bigoted bully, who supports a bigoted fool for office.

There is really nothng else to be said, or thought, on the matter.

[BootinUp]

22. I thought this was a sarcastic thread when I clicked it

oh my surprise, lol.

[Scruffy1]

189. Right On

[Scruffy1]

190. The moderator would remove my comment

[Kurovski]

239. The Magistrate speaks for me. (nt)

[golddigger]

11. That's not the problem. The assault happened

when the brown shirt stomped on the woman neck and head.

[MedicalAdmin]

111. I don't mean to nitpic but...

It was battery, or battery with intent to do great bodily harm.

Assault = verbal. ex-threat of violence "I'm gonna kill you, you liberal bitch."
Battery = physical. ex. - violence. ex-a boot to the top of the spine in an attempt to paralyze.

[golddigger]

161. Excuse me for leaving out "Battery," I meant to type

Assault and Battery.

[zonkers]

12. Uh, by the time of the head stomp, she was hardly a threat. Where was security? Oh they were

security. Well, I am glad she isn't hurt but she sure got the publicity she wanted.

[meow mix]

13. so i get to stomp the heads of people that "worry" me

great job supporting, but you forgot to say "im not defending thier actions" before you defended thier actions.

[peace13]

14. I guess we need to cold cock people undergoing cancer treatment as well.

Really, the difference between being worried and stepping on someones head is an entire universe. Big men...always stepping on the little guy.

[Turborama]

18. Mike? Is that you?

[BootinUp]

19. She was holding a very threatening piece of cardboard

and small women with wigs is so strange.


/sarcasm

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

20. False equivalence. Your guys' behavior is indefensible. Violence is typically right-wing, not left.

Fail.

[TriMera]

21. There's a difference between being worried

and stomping on someone's head. That is why there is a Secret Service and/or police presence. If I were at a political rally and I became concerned about an individual, I would notify someone about my concerns, not knock the person down and stomp on them. But, that's just me.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. I'm assuming she was part of a group representing RepubliCorp that

has been at many demonstrations. They're like 'Millionaires for Bush' and dress up for their parts. I think I'd realize they are into satire and not have been concerned at all.

[countingbluecars]

25. I don't get it.

Why is the wig scary?

[HardWorkingDem]

45. Have you been watching the election cyle with all the nuts out there?

I truly hope no one here that is not concerned with the people that nowadays attend political rallies ever applies to the Secret Service.

Imagine if you were running for office and someone wearing a wig suddenly approached you or abruptly tried to give you something. Would that not worry you?


With what I've seen on tv the last two years, it would worry me a great deal.

[countingbluecars]

70. From what I have seen

the nuts this election cycle are the teabaggers-not the liberal activists. I think some Code Pink activists wear wigs and they sometimes sit in on open Congressional sessions. No big deal. I still don't understand what is scary about a wig?? Why did they yank it off her head? Did they think she was hiding something under it? Silly.

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[kestrel91316]

227. Mr. Profitt, why aren't you before that judge RIGHT NOW??

[MedicalAdmin]

114. This is just a guess but ... clowns!

Especially the Tammy Fae looking ones.

[geardaddy]

130. Maybe it was a fright wig. n/t

[SargeUNN]

27. well reality is

right here in Phoenix when Obama came we had gun toting people who were libertarians and nobody had to stomp on them or such violent acts. Your post is a waste of your time since it is totally ignoring reality and makes you look very uninformed.

[bullwinkle428]

28. Damn them wimmin-types, thinking they have any kind of power!

:crazy:

[HardWorkingDem]

30. Folks....relax a bit....missing the main point....

Where did I say it's okay to abuse people?

What I'm pointing out that in the strange world of our politics at this stage, if I were a candidate and some person tried to approach me wearing a wig or acting strangely or tried to suddenly give me something, like this woman obviously was, it would concern me, too.

Wacko supporters are showing up every where and who is to know what the intent of a person is? My god, we have people showing up with guns at Obama rallies.


Who knows what would come next for any one?

[WinkyDink]

36. The story is NOT about the reaction of the candidate, now IS IT? YOU miss the point.

BTW: Your moniker? Riiight.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

44. Re: BTW

When somebody feels the need to put an adjective X before a noun Y, it's usually because that person believes the typical Y is not X, and hence naming somebody a "X Y" is relevant because it belongs to a presumably small subset of Y.

[WinkyDink]

74. Gotcha! ;-)

[SargeUNN]

39. now that you admit it happens

Do you see the problem? Certainly concern is one thing but when it has happened on our side we didn't have to stomp people's head in. That is the concern and if you don't see it then please look closer.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

40. Oh, no, no sir, unfortunately for you we DO get the main point, crystal clear.

[Brickbat]

46. Let me get this straight...

When someone walks up to a candidate to make a political point with a bit of street theater, ANYTHING AT ALL COULD HAPPEN and because of that, we mustn't be surprised when something does happen? Our outrage is misguided because we weren't expecting a violent response? I want to be clear that I get what you're saying.

[HardWorkingDem]

66. No, you don't have it straight....

No where am I condoning the treatment that came over. What I am pointing out is that in this day and age of where we are now having people with guns show up at presidential rallies, I find it troubling that people are not concerned when a person suddenly approaches a political candidate at a rally wearing a disguise or trying to hand a candidate something.

Now, the outrage over what happened to this person later is understandable, but the initial approach is concerning and should be in this day and age.

[meow mix]

52. the point is all about you

and your hardwork at defending them. filthy crap

[notadmblnd]

62. That's bullshit too.

If what she had in her had was a wad of cash, the little puke would have been her instant, newestest, bestest friend.

Who knows what would come next for anyone?

I guess that particular anyone should think about things like that before they decide that running for public office is worth the potential sacrifice.:shrug:

On edit: the OP needs to be recc-ed up so the rest of the world can see a clear example of the mentality of some of the people we're dealing with here, but I jsut can't bring myself to do it.

[Marr]

128. That kind of wimpy-ass excuse-making for people who hate you is

one of the reasons people think of liberals and Democrats as weak. The woman was assaulted, and you're going to make excuses for her right-wing, asshole assailants? Give me a fucking break.

[Hissyspit]

197. delete nt

[mkultra]

203. In your op

because the problem with this situation isnt that they grew "concerned." its that they assaulted her. If you assault a woman, your a coward. Im sure that may seem sexist to some but its the truth.

[notadmblnd]

31. Concerned?

There's a big difference in being concerned and taking action. Rand Paul looks like a scrappy little fella that can take care of himself. He also looks like he can afford a security detail if he's CONCERNED about his safty.

I don't care what the woman said. I don't care what sign she was carrying and I don't care that she approached Rand Paul. She did not attack him physically. She did absolutely nothing that justifies her getting stomped on by anyone, let alone the hair-lipped, dickless wonder who stompped on her.

Thanks, for sharing your concern.

[maxrandb]

67. Exactly

Could you imagine the "outrage" from the right if...for example...during the unhinged mobs at the Town Hall meetings, someone had wrestled some red-faced, angry...and OBVIOUSLY UNHINGED wingnut to the ground and "stomped" on them because they were "concernced"????? Had that happened, Beck, Insanity and Limpballs would still be dragging that horse across the desert, beating it with a riding crop as their "frothing wingnut fans" flagellate themselves on Faux News!

This is precisely why we lose elections when every single historical fact and circumstance should result in big wins for the Democrats. WE DON'T FIGHT WITH THE SAME INTENSITY THESE IDIOT WINGNUTS DO. Does that mean we need to start stopmping Tea-bagging women on the curb??? NO!!!

But it does mean that some of us should have been yelling just as loud in opposition to these wingnuts a year ago. It means that we should be out supporting our candidates with as much enthusiasm as the other side.

This is not just about the mid-terms. These rat-bastards will control majority statehouses as the new electoral maps are drawn. Sitting on our asses because we only got 85% of what we wanted from President Obama and the Dems could result in Repuke rule for a "frickin" generation!!!!

There is only one way to "stomp" back at these "ass-pickles"...and that's by STOMPING THEM AT THE BALLOT BOX.

Get the "eff" out there and vote.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

78. "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

--Bertrand Russell, a man who knew a thing or two.

[sinkingfeeling]

172. Thanks, that's my sig line.

[madmax]

199. Have that quote on my fb page. eom

[bluestateguy]

34. while I am not a fan of Moveon

I fail to see how she deserved to be beat up and stomped upon.

A few loons show up at a political rally. OK, so what? Does that mean they deserve to be beat up? Not unless they were attacking someone or destroying property.

[bigtree]

37. Juan, is that you?

[Turborama]

50. LOL!

Good one! :rofl:

[HardWorkingDem]

51. Oh, the wonderful new DU....

Where no disagreement is allowed at all without the calling of names...

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

55. Boo fucking hoo.

[devilgrrl]

141. mwhaa haa ha!

:-)

[yesphan]

158. Excellent pictorial ! nt

[Toucano]

87. The comparison of the views is apt. That's not "name calling". n/t

[BootinUp]

57. I'm a little slow, rofl. nt

[blondeatlast]

94. LOL! nt

[blondeatlast]

38. Talk about inane false equivalencies; this one takes the cake and the whole

damn county fair.

:wow:

[Swede]

42. It looks like a security guy pointed her out,and she was tackled.

They guy that put his foot to her head should be charged with assault.

[MedicalAdmin]

132. Nitpicing again

He should be charged with battery. Assault is the verbal component.

For example, assault; "I'm going to kick your ass you liberal weenie." Battery: "bam. biff. socko. kick upper spinal area with the intent of leaving victim permanently paralyzed."

I hope this helps.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

216. FYI: You are using a more of a "common law" approach to your definitions.

Many states, Kentucky included, group the physical contact, including injury, in to the "assault" categories.

508.030 Assault in the fourth degree. (1) A person is guilty of assault in the fourth degree when: (a) He intentionally or wantonly causes physical injury to another person; or (b) With recklessness he causes physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument. (2) Assault in the fourth degree is a Class A misdemeanor.



508.010 Assault in the first degree. (1) A person is guilty of assault in the first degree when: (a) He intentionally causes serious physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument; or (b) Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life he wantonly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to another and thereby causes serious physical injury to another person. (2) Assault in the first degree is a Class B felony.



508.050 Menacing. (1) A person is guilty of menacing when he intentionally places another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent physical injury. (2) Menacing is a Class B misdemeanor.

[PA Democrat]

217. Actually it varies from state to state,.

Looks like Profitt would be charged with assault in the 4th degree.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/KRS/508-00/CHAPTER.HTM

[get the red out]

48. Yea, it's those petite women that scare me

The big thugs that throw a woman down and stomp on her because they don't care for her expression of free speech, why how could I fear those good ol' boys?

:sarcasm:

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[HardWorkingDem]

53. Yes, it will probably be locked soon, but....

you know, think if someone like this approached Obama. Would it not worry you? Are you that vapid?

[madmax]

54. People have show up PACKING GUNS!

I'd be a lot more concerned about guns than wigs. :crazy:

[HardWorkingDem]

59. God, that's part of my point!

This political season is so bizarre that nothing can be taken for granted anymore.

Imagine if this were at an Obama rally. Hell, the man that shot murdered the man at the Jewish Center was with oxygen if I recall correctly.

THINGS like that are what is fearful and why any person in a wig or disguise would worry me.

[madmax]

81. I'm sorry it must be me

I just can't see how a wig would make one feel insecure, afraid, apprehensive. I wore a wig for almost I year when I went bald from Chemo. Maybe I'm making a big deal out of your choice of words or your analogy.

Let's have a drink :toast: A beer summit, so to speak ;)

[blogslut]

60. The young woman has suffered a concussion

Why are you ignoring this fact?

[HardWorkingDem]

72. Sheesh.....

Again, my point is that in this current crazy political climate the behavior of people at these political rallies had grown dangerous to not be hyper alert and that any politician should be concerned now days about any person in the crowd that would suddenly approach a candidate or try to give a candidate something.

I know if I were running for office, especially in a heavily controversial race, if a person suddenly approached me and tried to give me something or was wearing a wig or just seemed odd, I'd be concerned too.

[blogslut]

76. Would you be concerned to the point of violence?

?

[kas125]

205. FFS, this isn't about whether the candidate felt threatened or even

concerned. It's about a bunch of thugs in the crowd attacking a 110lb. girl. Sheesh yourself!

[bobbolink]

69. Is that what you were wanting?

[HardWorkingDem]

77. No, what I want is....

for people here to act like adults, discuss ideas and not react like children.

Now, you tell me this.....if you saw a video feed of some odd duck suddenly approach Obama when he was attending a function and the person was wearing a wig or suddenly tried to give him something, would that not worry you?

Now, I'm not saying when it was found out to be safe, that you would then agree the Secret Service could then beat the hell out of the person - I am not condoning that behavior at all. Just stating that in our current political world, it has become almost normal for nuts to show up at these things.

I mean, come on, firearms at presidential rallies? Where have we ended up?

[MedicalAdmin]

137. It depends.

If I was on a security detail, either secret service, or one of the local authorities that are deputized to help in those situations, then yes, I would be concerned up to the limits of the constitutional authority to do so.

As someone watching a video, no, I would not be worried. Not at all. Leave the worrying to the professionals. They are better at it than you. And try not to worry so much.

BTW - do you think that the perps should be investigated and charged if enough evidence is found to convict them?

From the videos I have seen, I beleive the cops have enough evidence to convict. The fact that the cops are looking for those 2 fine, upstanding weenies, tells me that they think they have enough as well.

[bobbolink]

201. Oh, hurrah! We get Rand Paul talking points! Yippee!

[hedgehog]

79. You mean like this?

[HardWorkingDem]

86. Your example is why we are no better than they are...

We claim we are the adults. We claim we are the honest. We claim we can discuss things. We claim we are not prejudicial or false. Then you post a picture like this and play their game.

You know, if you recall, a woman once shot at Gerald Ford. And not long, an elderly man on oxygen killed a man at a Jewish Center.

What you do is play cheap political games.

[hedgehog]

122. OK - what was the crowd reaction to this

or this





although I'll grant you, I wouldn't want to tackle the streaker myself.

[hileeopnyn8d]

196. Those

were exactly the two recent events I was thinking of when I read the OP and their subsequent posts.

[MedicalAdmin]

138. Yikes. We have a POTUS triple 1.

You are authorized to use lethal force. Shoot the little midget.

[Pisces]

225. It's the mentality that you can take out your anger on a subdued person. She was

on the ground and restrained. Stomping her shoulder or her head is vicious and done out of anger. Thank God she wasn't brown or maybe they would have felt the need to kill her to protect
Rand.

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[Matariki]

126. YOU are ignorable.

[DefenseLawyer]

56. Kickin' ass and takin' names! Yeeehaw!

Just when I thought the Ohio republican candidate defending the SS was the craziest bit of rationalization of all time, then you come along to defend an angry mob stomping a defenseless woman for wearing a wig. Bravo.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

58. There was no reason to tackle her and step on her

If she rushed him, that's not a smart move, but she doesn't look very big to me and could have very easily been held back and moved away from Paul without the assault that went on.

[CreekDog]

61. Ok, first you state in the OP that the victim would've worried you also, but then later...

you minimize how rough they were with the woman.


so what you're doing here is taking the ENTIRE TEA PARTY line here defending not only the idea that she was a threat,

but also then saying they didn't really harm her (though she ended up with injuries)

uh huh...very subtle.

[EFerrari]

63. If we attack everyone who worries us, we'd all be in prison doing hard time.

:)

[Scout]

65. does a blond wig really count as a "disguise"?

no one would have even known she was "disguised" if they hadn't pulled the wig off during the attack...

[blondeatlast]

88. It seems to me most everyday wig-wearers would be those undergoing cancer treatment.

My sister isn't quite there yet, but is considering it and she still looks fairly strong; she's just losing a lot of hair.

[HipChick]

92. Notwithstand the many that wear them for fashion

[HardWorkingDem]

101. My....

what a cheap shot. And to just make a political point.

And quite offensive as well.

Do you think you are the only person here who has had a family member with cancer?

[kas125]

209. If you have a family member with cancer, I certainly hope you

aren't frightened or "concerned" when you see her/him with a wig, because stomping on the heads of people wearing wigs seems to be perfectly justified to you.

[HardWorkingDem]

258. Very offensive...

You know, why do you even go there?

How dare you bring families into this?

Just as the other person brought this topic in, it is offensive and disgusting.

Many people have lost families to cancer, including I and frankly, to bring this into a goddamned political debate is juvenile and disgusting.

So kiss my ass.

[handmade34]

68. additional video

shows security guarding Paul... if the crowd had been concerned, all that was needed was a couple of those big guys blocking her way, not necessary to tackle her to the ground and press a foot into her head/shoulder... these additional acts show an aggressive nature inherent to the movement

[The Midway Rebel]

71. Worried? That was the response of someone who is fucking terrifiied!

Not physically afraid, those men are afraid of ideas, of logic, science, facts, democracy, liberty and a well reasoned arguments. Fucking cowards are not deserving to be called Kentuckians. If I were govenor of that great commonwealth I would kick their asses out the State.

[MedicalAdmin]

142. Kick them out to where?

If I were govenor of Kaintucky I would deal with my states problems. Jail the bastards and they can forget clemancy while I'm in charge.

[Gormy Cuss]

73. Seriously, defending someone who stomped on her AFTER she was pinned to the ground?

My eyes are wide open. Yours?

[HardWorkingDem]

80. Show me where....

I defended ANYONE who did what happened to that woman....

You can't do it.

My point is, again, our political world has become so dangerous. Get it? That's all it is about. That it has become so bizarre that everything now should worry or concern candidates.

That's the point. Simple enough?

But again, show me where I said the woman deserved to be stepped on.

[WinkyDink]

99. Show me where you said you'd fear THE THUGS.

[BootinUp]

109. +1

[Gormy Cuss]

103. Your OP.

No,you didn't use the word defend. It's implied there and in your response to me about how dangerous the political world is and how it should concern candidates.

Frankly it's bizarre to view that video and conclude that the stomper's motivation was out of concern for his candidate's safety. It was pure, raw anger directed at someone who dared to object to the candidate -- that is all.

[DefenseLawyer]

129. Otter?

The question here is not whether Rand Paul's goons broke a few rules or took a few liberties with their female party guests *wink* They did. But you can't blame an entire campaign for the acts of a few sick and twisted individuals, for if you do, aren't both parties to blame? And if both parties are to blame, isn't this an indictment of our political system in general? I put it to you, DU! Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society???? Well, you can do want you want to Rand Paul's poor goons, but I'm not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

[BootinUp]

139. borrowed

from Animal House? LOL.

[MedicalAdmin]

154. Bwahahahaha. I freakin love that movie.

We need a new politician for the new century.

[MedicalAdmin]

149. You didn't.

But why are you so worried about this?

I have been an officer and I have worked in a maximum and super max facility (former life). And I must tell you that you are worrying about stuff that the secret service is already taking care of (in the case that you brought up of this happening to Obama). In the case of Rand Paul, he had security.

You are making the false equivalency of comparing the candidate and security to what a couple of followers of libertarian nee. teaparty followers did in a most thugish way. Further you are equating this by saying that the members of DU, and by extension all liberals, are not capable of discussing this as adults. This is a most egregious and false charge.

So I repeat, why are you so worried about this?


FYI - if you don't like being treated like a shill / troll on DU, then stop acting like one.

[backscatter712]

75. Then the Paultards should have let the cops handle it.

Does Rand Paul not have police officers and trained security personnel there who know how to deal with a protester without stomping on her head?

[Mad_Dem_X]

82. I sincerely doubt Obama supporters

would knock that person down and stomp on her head. Liberals don't usually react with violence. That is the Conservative M.O.

[Toucano]

83. "...some person in a wig..."

Really?

Wearing a wig scares you? Do you have any idea how many people wear wigs on a daily basis?

This is the same argument that says it's okay to torture muslims because we're "worried" or "they scare us".

What they did to that woman was NOT RIGHT.


Being scared is no excuse for what they did.

You're defense of this makes me want to throw up.

[damntexdem]

90. I'm sorry that anyone on DU could be worried by her, too.

In the same situation, Obama would likely have talked to her.

[hedgehog]

91. Was it a Muslim wig?

[countingbluecars]

98. Just imagine if she had been

wearing a burka.

[WinkyDink]

95. Here's your poster:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9390894

[Mudoria]

96. I think it was a stupid stunt personally

but what happened to her was criminal. I hope arrests are made soon for the assault.

[AndrewP]

97. Not sure it was worthy of being tackled and stomped on....

sorry, but epic fail.

[HardWorkingDem]

107. Please, show me....

where did I state that she deserved what she got after the fact? I did not (though the video was not as graphic as what I thought it was going to be).

I do not think her behavior was worthy of what happened after; my point, again, is that the current political climate has grown too concerning to be lax.

[prolesunited]

164. Why are you downplaying this!

The doctor said she had a CONCUSSION!

[MilesColtrane]

100. "...can anyone here really not believe if some person in a wig approached Obama..."

Maybe that person is just a fan?

[guitar man]

102. A wig? OMG!!

Better alert Dolly Parton's management and tell her to be prepared for a head-stomp if she visits the White House! :eyes:

[kestrel91316]

104. Yeah! People in wigs are just as dangerous as people in muslim garb

[closeupready]

105. Unrecced. Your views are disgusting.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[HardWorkingDem]

113. Oh, goody, more of the same juvenile name calling...

in a world where we now have people showing up at political rallies with guns, people here apparently are willing to turn a head to bizarre behavior when it deals with our party or our supporters.


Please, do not ever apply for executive protection like jobs because your lack of caution would lead to bad things happening to those you would try to protect.

[countingbluecars]

115. The people showing up at rallies

with guns are the same types who stomped on this woman. The bizarre behavior is on the part of the teabaggers and right wing thugs. They are the problem-not a protester with a sign or a wig.

[socialist_n_TN]

252. "The people showing up at rallies

with guns are the same types who stomped on this woman." VERY telling point. It's the attitudes of the TEABAGGERS that are the problem. This is what they ARE.

[MedicalAdmin]

160. Been there - done that.

I used to work high level security (former life). And I can tell you that you are worrying about shit that the experts are already dealing with. Do you get that the dumbfucks who the cops are looking for in response to this crime of battery are NOT EXECUTIVE SECURITY EXPERTS.

As such, why do you think that anyone here, posting online, should behave as if they were; a) security experts, b) working the security at that event, and more importantly c) felt that the woman was such a credible security threat that she needed to be taken down and stomped on her upper spinal area? Hmmmmmmmmm?

Here's a little primer for you about the force continuum. This is an industry standard training chart and is a few years out of date. Newer procedures are more nuanced. Please note subject factor numbers 2, 3, 5 and 6. She was a woman, smaller, fewer in number, and had less relative strength. These are all mitigating factors and ARE (I assure you) taken into serious consideration when a use of force review board is convened, any or all of which would require a step down in the force continuum. As such, as a former officer I can tell you for sure that any force beyond balance displacement would not be called for.

All of this assumes that this woman was a threat and that her asailants were actually working security, which they weren't.

[Dappleganger]

106. I don't ever treat my dog that way...

it was disgusting what happened to her and showed a complete lack of basic respect for humanity. Not that women should be shown more respect than men, but even the most basic of manners calls for a person to reach out and help a person up if they've fallen and not shove them down and assault them with their feet. In my mind this just proves that these tea baggers are not basic Americans but a bunch of white thugs looking for a n*****r to string up.

[blondeatlast]

108. Um, most wigs today are sold to those undergoing cancer treatment or insecure males.

No, I would not be worried regardless of which one it was. :eyes:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

110. TERRIFYING!

Curled up in a fetal ball on the ground clutching her lethal cardboard sign.

[MineralMan]

112. Uff da! Now I've just about heard it all.

First, these morons were not security guards. They were just Rand Paul supporters. They had no authority to do any damn thing at all.
Second, this was a woman with a sign and a document. What could possibly be of concern in that.
Third, Rand Paul wasn't even near enough to see the incident.
Fourth, you're just plain wrong.

There is no fifth.

[backscatter712]

117. Actually, the curbstomper could be a Rand Paul staffer!

http://www.barefootandprogressive.com/

[MineralMan]

152. Thanks for the link. He still was not a security guy for Rand Paul.

In fact, Rand Paul had already passed when this happened and the stomper was nowhere near Rand Paul. I'll stand by my previous statement.

I sincerely hope those two men will be facing assault charges. I can't see how they would not be charged. The video is all the evidence needed.

[backscatter712]

168. Turned out to be one of his county coordinators.

Yep, not a security staffer.

These fuckers do indeed need to be charged with assault. If they indeed felt threatened, the correct action was to let the cops or security guys know, and let them deal with it, as opposed to curbstomping her. The cops have all sorts of training to 1. Evaluate the threat - they probably would have talked to her, found she was unarmed and harmless, talked with her, probably let her do her thing and leave, and if hypothetically speaking, they found she was a threat, then 2, they could escort her from the premises, or arrest her, or otherwise ensure she isn't a threat.

Lots of options that don't involve curbstomping.

[Ozymanithrax]

116. Worried Vs. knocking her down and stomping on her head...

That realtionship is starkly disproportional.

[Marr]

119. GET DOWN! She's got a wig!

Seriously, what the fuck is this fear of wigs about?

[countingbluecars]

123. Maliaphobia=fear of wigs!

[City Lights]

120. And if she had worried you, what would you have done? nt

[flvegan]

131. This is my sandbox. I'm not allowed to go in the deep end.

[county worker]

133. They fucking carry guns we carry signs.

I'm thinking that in the future we will start to see progressives with more than signs for protection.

[Xenotime]

235. Please no! That's the LAST thing we need.

[socialist_n_TN]

253. Why? We don't rate self defense?

I'm a SERIOUSLY trained martial artist with a LOT of experience and I'M thinking about packing.

As another poster said the other day (paraphrasing), the violence will go up whether they win or lose. IF the violence goes up, I want to have a modicum of protection. And no matter how well trained I happen to be, I'd rather not go up against a gun with my bare hands and feet.

[tjwash]

134. Nice...she was just obviously asking for it right? Wearing a tight skirt and being all flirty...

Wow. That OP is just completely fucked up on so many levels, that I don't have the time or stomach to refute such obvious horseshit.

Ah the wonderful new DU...where blaming the victim, making excuses for street thugs committing assault and battery , and shrugging people off as stupid if they don't have the exact same viewpoint as theirs, is the norm now.

Jeez...

[devilgrrl]

140. Oh, I so hear you. Thank goodness that those huge guys dropped that little broad.

:eyes:

Concern troll much?

[devilgrrl]

143. Hey "HardWorkingDem"? Shouldn't you be working rather than concern trolling?

:popcorn:

[meow mix]

153. it is hard work.

not everyone has the same area of expertise ya know.

[Matariki]

155. Heh. He's 'being an adult' according to him.

LOL

[fascisthunter]

144. hard working

but a dem? Good fucking bye...

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

151. See #44. -nt

[spanone]

147. i don't find a wig threatening in the least bit. that would cause no concern for me.

[lillypaddle]

150. The fact that there are some DUers on here

who are defending this action against the woman, should tell us all something. Not too surprised, actually, given the tone around here sometimes. I'm totally disgusted.

[kentuck]

159. Indeed.

The woman was such a threat. :sarcasm:

[musette_sf]

156. I would have thought

she was (a) a cancer patient or (b) an Orthodox Jew.

:thumbsdown: on "worry".

[TNLib]

162. Yes but that doesn't mean you push them to the ground and stomp on their head

nt

[prolesunited]

163. If you feel someone is a threat

and there is no immediate danger like a gun being flashed, CALL OVER THE POLICE. That is their job.

[cornermouse]

165. This probably dates me but I was known to wear a wig back

in the 70s. Also cancer patients undergoing chemo sometimes wear wigs. Shall we consider them if they wear a wig?

[Dawson Leery]

166. Says the copper.

:thumbsdown:

[GSLevel9]

167. I have no problem with them peacefully blocking

her access to Paul or even kindly asking her to leave their little party...

But you can't let it turn physical...

[Dr Fate]

171. There is a such thing as being over-objective. n/t

n/t

[cynatnite]

174. You call the cops...you don't assault someone because your scared of how she looks...

Dumbest post ever.

:puke:

[JoePhilly]

175. What worried them was her SIGN.

I hope she sues them all.

[bullwinkle428]

176. Uh, excuse me, but don't you think Paul has his own PAID SECURITY

GUARDS/THUGS there to protect him? Why would he even have to rely on supporters to protect him?

[karynnj]

177. That is BS

Wearing a wig is not scary - No, I don't think that I would worry if a petite woman, wearing a wig and carrying a sign (if she was) forced her way through a crowd to get a photo with Franken or Fengold. (The SS has stiffer rules for a President)

I would imagine that Franken would very easily handle anyone trying to get a political photo.

[LanternWaste]

178. It would appear that a "reasonable concern" was not the motivation...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/kentucky-stomper-identified-as-pauls-now-former-bourbon-county-coordinator.php

Valle spoke to reporters this afternoon, telling them that the men who attacked her were familiar with her from other protests.




It would appear the attackers already knew who she was, had zero reason to believe she was a terrorist, an direct threat, or even an indirect danger as you've implied.


"People need to look at things like this with more open eyes..." Indeed. However, the lack of initially including yourself in this condemnation has a wee bit more bite now, I would imagine.

[whatchamacallit]

184. Holy shit, I stand corrected!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9392114

[Iggo]

185. And when exactly would you have stomped on her head?

Hmmm?

[Cleobulus]

186. All I have to say is WTF is wrong with you?

Is there a screw loose somewhere in your head? Seriously, you may fantasize about beating women with wigs, but most people don't. So take your concern trolling and shove it up your own ass.

[HardWorkingDem]

208. Can you even read?

Really, can you even read?

[mmonk]

187. I guess that makes us opposites.

[Jamastiene]

188. Funny.

I never pictured you as a feel copping head stomping type.

[eShirl]

191. How about someone in a toupe? Would that be threatening to you, too?

give me a freaking break

[petronius]

192. Notice? Yes. Worry? Maybe. Attack? No.

However, I'm not seeing anything in the description of this event that would actually trigger any reasonable worry - anyone who violently freaks about a counter-protester with a sign at a rally is too inept to be at any political gatherings (or to be in public, really). This Paul supporter launched an unprovoked attack on an innocent victim, and further unmasked himself and his movement as the violent thugs they are...

[Individualist]

193. Tim, is that you?

[TheKentuckian]

195. Okay...benefit of the doubt to the yahoo who basically curbed a woman for daring challenge a pol

and scared into pretty extreme force because of a fucking sign and a wig???

Way fucked up. Sounds like another "sensible centrist" rather than a hardworkingdem to me.

I suppose a scowl and a baseball cap call for gun play and a hearty "fuck you" can only be answered with nukes.

Think about presenting your defense to the judge and shut the fuck up.

That guy needs a prison sentence not your understanding of their "concern" and God knows I about never call for jail and other "imperial entanglements".

[Hissyspit]

198. Juan Williams, is that you?

[gatorboy]

200. They already admitted in knowing who she was, so where's the threat?

This was simply an excuse for goons to be goons...

[mkultra]

202. if worry and assualt are the same thing too you...

then you are truly ill. Find a new board. Sell your propaganda someplace else. He DID stomp on her FACE. I saw it. I firmly believe you are here to intentionally disrupt.

[MaeScott]

206. This post is crap. Please delete.

This post on this board is stinking up the place.

[HardWorkingDem]

207. Hopefully my last comment on this topic...

I do not know if it is a side effect of the computer age or what, but the process of communication and discussion of ideas is apparently broken here at DU. There is no practice of once taught, in-person communication skills to ensure the proper message has been transmitted or received, just automatic name calling or one declaring an incorrect concept has been transmitted when it has not.

I do not think anyone will disagree that communicating via the typed word is hard, but here at DU, that fact seems to be ignored and hardly any polite follow up occurs in many controversial topics and without clarification, people take away what they want without even asking if the message received was the one transmitted.

I have went back and re-read my original OP several times and am flummoxed to understand how people here have extrapolated claims that I have never made and have even continued to make those claims after I have stated I never made such claims.

Then of course there are the rude comments and "troll" crap and juvenile name calling. Just what is it about people who continue to do this?


SO to be clear: I never once condoned the abuse of this woman or what came after her behavior. What I simply pointed out is that the last two years in American politics have grown worrisome to me. Where we can have rallies where Americans are bringing long guns to presidential rallies and one half of our two party system thinks it is okay to do so bothers me. It also bothers me that in our world of politics the bizarre nature of politics has made it so people can't ignore any strange behavior.

I would imagine if I made made a comment about people tossing pies at public figures while making speeches, some here would declare "oh, now he's scared of a pie." But this sort of behavior is troublesome and to ignore it is ridiculous

But to me it remains, we are in a troubling spot here in American politics and it appears it is only going to grow. The violence that I see in our politics, regardless of where it is coming from, is very troubling to me. And if people want to surmise certain things are not troublesome, like someone on their team approaching a public figure while wearing a disguise or acting bizarre, then that is on them.

No where did I condone what happened to this woman and never would I do so; all I pointed out is that our politics is getting dangerous and it bothers me.

(Ps...and because I have viewed many instances of horrific violence, my mental construct of the word "stomp" is much different than what I saw in the video. That point certainly could have been explained better on my part).

[blondeatlast]

213. You could have prevented all of this quite simply--by stating that you unwaveringly condemned

the act of the RP supporter.

But of course, it's all our fault for not getting your meaning. Check.

[HardWorkingDem]

257. So you are saying....

we are back to the old stupid game of if we don't always condemn an obviously disgusting act that should not take an obvious condemnation that we must all be in favor of such acts. Is that it?

God, what a goofy place this has become when we must all now issue caveats up front before making comments.

[WinkyDink]

230. But the danger, the violence, is coming from the RIGHT. The MEN were the ones to fear----as they

proved.
And yes, I'm aware of Squeaky Fromme and Sara Jane Whatever.

[Marr]

243. Your point wasn't difficult to grasp-- it's just asinine.

You seem to be having a hard time getting this-- people are not generally misunderstanding you. They're saying your empathizing with cowardly thugs is absurd. They weren't "afraid" of the woman because she had a wig on, and no reasonable human being would've been. They simply hated her for her politics, and when they felt they had the green light, they leaped at the opportunity to beat up someone who couldn't defend themselves.

[bullwinkle428]

212. Oh, the irony of Rand Paul feeling threatened by someone wearing a wig!

:rofl: :rofl:

[walldude]

218. Ooh a scary wig. Yeah I'd be nervous if anything like that got near

Obama...











These people come to their rally's ARMED! Imagine if that woman decided to be like them and express her 2nd amendment rights to openly carry a firearm. What would they have done to her then?

Sorry I hate to use cliche's but it fits here... EPIC FAIL!

[Vinca]

220. The woman said she had been "in character" at many events

in Kentucky and that the Paul campaign was aware of her. In any event, if the goon squad sensed a threat, once they had her on the ground and subdued, that was as far as they might be able to go and get away with it. The stomping on the woman was an "extra" dose of hate thrown in for kicks and amounted to an assault. The guy is lucky it didn't break the woman's neck and kill her. He needs to be prosecuted, found guilty and spend some quality time in jail. If I were the woman I would plan on filing a substantial civil suit, too.

[edbermac]

221. The MoveOn woman was clearly a threat to the Rand Paul crowd.

She was armed with a brain.

[MadHound]

222. Sorry, FAIL.

Most politicians have to deal with crowds, hostile and otherwise, surrounding them at some point or another on the campaign trail. If they get too threatening, then you have your crowd control people push them back a bit. You do not, I repeat, do not, shove them to the street and curb stomp them.

You are essentially condoning this action. You are implying that Paul's thugs were well within their right to feel threatened and thus take the action that they did. You are essentially blaming the victim here. Again, FAIL.

[Alexander]

226. It sounds like she would have "concerned" you quite a bit.

Your concern is noted.

[Strelnikov_]

228. ..

[Strelnikov_]

244. .

[Swede]

229. I think you are referring to the fear of a lone gunman.

That's the only excuse that works.

[Name removed]

231. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[napi21]

232. First of all, those supporters KNEW who she was becasue he'd attended quite a few rallys over the

last several weeks. IF there prime concern was the safty of the candidate, any one or at the most two could easily ave blcked her advance in the crowd, or simply held her back for a few minutes. IF that was all that had appened, there would be NO STORY! Face it. These guys acted like thugs picking on a young woman and are guilty of ssault!

[SusanaMontana41]

233. You lost me at "I'm sorry, but ..." n/t

[Atticus]

237. Check me on this: African-Americans, Mexicans, gays, Muslims, Jews, "cafeteria Christians",

non-believers, union members, liberals, socialists AND wig-wearers.

Is that the entire list or have I omitted some class of people we should just automatically worry about and pre-emptively attack?

How are we to deal with toupees?

[Kurovski]

240. One quarter of Congress couldn't get near anyone.

[Lindsey]

242. Are you f'in' kidding me?!??!?!? I've been on DU almost since the

beginning and I've never read an OP so disgusting. You "workinghard" are seriously fucked up. OMG!!!!!!! Grown men physically attacking a young woman (or anyone for that matter) in this situation is completely unbelievable. I was totally blown away when I saw the video. These thugs are criminals and should be in prison. And this is a horrific post. Go F yourself you freak. Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lonestarnot]

246. And poodles and comovers?

Sorry, couldn't resist. :evilgrin:

[Atticus]

249. Birkenstocks and french wine---the list is endless when you

live to hate.

[onestep]

241. wtf?

[LawnLover]

245. So you block her, stop her, but

you don't drag her to the ground and stomp on her head. The reaction was overkill and a result of too many wackos getting their paranoia fueled by tea party "leaders."

[Bluenorthwest]

247. Listen up. When security is an actual issue it is dealt with by

professionals. If a person not in the security detail takes action, that person is in fact creating danger. Vigilantism in personal security areas is not a welcome thing.
And as far as Franken goes, he's spent a lifetime being approached by people in wigs, often while wearing one himself, so I assume that like most sane humans, he does not see a wig as a weapon or a threat. I mean, are those who assault political figures known to favor wigs? Actually, not.
The fact of the matter is that the wig itself indicates everything but a physical threat. It indicates what it was, political theatrics. The context is everything. This was a debate event, by a politician whose supporters themselves often wear wigs, costumes and even guns at political events. And so they remove their tea hats and Lady Liberty robes and announce that a wig makes them jumpy? The same people who dress up in cammo and jack boots and Uncle Sam Hats with Tea Bags on them? Really?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

251. +1

[bemildred]

248. Well, you worry me way the heck more than she does. nt

[GoddessOfGuinness]

250. Lots of people wear wigs...

I would not think anything of it. People were not restrained and brutalized for disagreeing with Obama or Franken or Feingold, were they?

[lonestarnot]

254. ROFLMAO Persons doing the assaulting did not appear worried.

[wordpix]

255. there is lots of street theater at these things - my musician friends bring instruments, for example

and a guitar could hurt someone, too, right? :crazy:

[HuckleB]

256. BALONEY!!!!!!!

This is the most pitiful OP I've seen in some time.

:grr:

[Warren DeMontague]

259. Thank God We Still Have The Second Amendment.

To Protect Us From Scary Wigs.