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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 04:26 PM
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Tea Party Libido Theory
{1} “Many people are seized by one and the same affect with great consistency. All his senses are so strongly affected by one object that he believes this object is present even if it is not. If this happens while the person is awake, the person is believed to be insane. But if the greedy person thinks only of money and possessions, the ambitious one only of fame, one does not think of them being insane, but only as annoying; generally, one has contempt for them. But factually, greediness, ambition, and so forth, are forms of insanity, although usually one does not think of them as 'illness'.”
Spinoza

Yesterday one of my friends visited me. I've known him since childhood, when he was friends with my older brothers, and me with his younger brother. He is a giant specimen of humanity, who worked on the Mississippi as a teen, and then in construction. His face is mapped with the scars of countless bar fights, and upon appearance alone, I suspect most people would imagine him to be a “redneck.”

Age has mellowed him, as it does so many of us. Now retired, he said that he has spent the last month watching news programs about national politics. His favorite shows, he said, are “Keith and Rachel on MSNBC.” Because of their influence, he recently registered to vote; it will be the first time he has done so since Ronald Reagan was elected.

Those who do not know my friend would be surprised to hear him accurately quote Thomas Jefferson and other “Founding Fathers.” He is concerned by the aggressive ignorance being spouted by Tea Party members, from Sharon Angle and Christine O'Donnell, to some of our local politicians. He said that he had seen me on the news on an area television station recently, from the Sidney Town Board meeting, discussing the Town Supervisor's attempts to force the excavation of Muslim graves. He had first become aware of this when Keith Olbermann reported on it.

I asked him if that was why he had registered to vote? No, he told me, it was mainly because of the reports of teens and young adults killing themselves, because of the shit they take from a society that rejects them for their sexuality. Eleven years ago, his son was riding with his girlfriend while on Christmas break after their first semester of college. She hit some black ice, and they were both killed. My friend said that he doesn't want any parent to go through the hell he did; and more, he didn't want any kid to suffer because of some self-righteous, power-hungry adult.

Those who judge other human beings on their sexuality are indeed ill. And every politician, from some jackass school board member recently in the news, to those in the Tea Party, the republican party – and yes, from the Democratic Party – who seek the power of office by courting those opposed to human rights and social equality need to be voted out of office. The same goes for those who try to benefit by appealing to racism, sexism, and any form of religious hate.


{2} “As the generations pass they grow worse. A time will come when they grow so wicked that they will worship power; might will be right to them and reverence for the good will cease to be. At last, when no man is angry anymore at wrongdoings or feels shame in the presence of the miserable, Zeus will destroy them, too. And yet even then something might be done, if only the common people would rise up and put down rulers that oppress them.”
Greek myth from the Iron Age

After my friend left, I spent some time reading through the Democratic Underground, before engaging in some “phone work” for a few democratic candidates from New York. In part, I was looking back at a few threads from earlier in the week. I find the discussions about the group dynamics here interesting, as well as various threads about specific issues. In years past, I think that there was a much higher percentage of actual progressive democrats here. I liked that, not because it served as an echo chamber for the democratic left, but instead because there were far more discussions that had the potential to organize and bring about action.

In one of the threads I was re-reading yesterday, I noted another more recent forum participant saying that investing energy here is not activism. A good friend noted that, for example, I had posted a link to an internet petition calling for the removal from office of that Tea Party Sidney Town Supervisor. The other person responded that he did not think such petitions were meaningful. I suppose in the hands of some people, they would not be. However, considering that Amendment 1 specifically speaks to the importance of citizens petitioning their elected representatives, I can say without any risk of being incorrect that, in the right hands, they can be extremely meaningful.

The Constitution is something that average citizens should be more familiar with. We are witnessing a time when Tea Party “leaders” are speaking openly about an armed revolution, should they lose in the upcoming elections. By no coincidence, advocating this is actually discussed in the Constitution: it is treason, the only crime addressed in the Constitution. However, the highly aroused Tea Partiers are clearly unfamiliar with the document. Their inbred cousins, who spend years posting on the Free Republic internet forum, are equally ignorant about issues of democracy.

I believe that this forum approaches its greatest potential when it is used by the democratic left as a resource for discussions on local, state, and national political/social issues. There are benefits from just relaxing and blowing off steam from time to time. But it is also a good source of information, including on things ranging from the news that the corporate media does not report, to ideas about organizing at the grass roots level and exercising our Constitutional rights.

Most people here are certainly going to get out and vote on Tuesday. That is important. Perhaps more important at this time is what the democratic left will do in the early period before the next election cycle. We need to do the ground work necessary to insure that not only are our voices heard – and I'm not interested in communications with conservative democrats – and that actual liberal and progressive candidates have the ability to throw their hats into the ring.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 04:29 PM
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1. kudos k&r
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 04:33 PM
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2. Amen--and I think my son and I need to take some time to read the Constitution.
He's learning about the american Revolution now, very interested in it, and oddly, they aren't discussing the Constitution much.

Thanks, and of course--k/r.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 06:41 PM
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3. I did a
90-minute presentation for a class last week, on the Revolutionary War. I brought in about six trays of artifacts from local sites from that era. We live along what was the "western front," and where some of the border wars took place. It was fun.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 07:25 PM
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4. You write in such a way
Edited on Fri Oct-29-10 07:29 PM by rosesaylavee
that one can picture you sitting across the table and saying these words. That is a great talent. Another wonderful essay. Thank you.

I have been thinking about what happens starting next Wednesday. How will these Tea Parties act if they win or lose. They are fortunately not as organized ... but their words have power and I am dreading someone or some group being hurt by them. I am not sure what or who can prevent that either. Very very frustrating.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 06:34 AM
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6. Thank you.
I think that I do write in the same way I speak. I suspect that is because, for a variety of reasons (none good), I did not speak much at all for a period of years, as a youngster. I communicated by writing. Old habits, you know.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 07:34 PM
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5. A fight-scarred liberal convert and Spinoza in the same post.
Another thought-provoking gem, sir.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 10:30 AM
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14. Thanks.
Much appreciated.
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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 06:47 AM
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7. K & R n/t
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 06:59 AM
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8. I cannot agree with you, sir.
Those who judge other human beings on their sexuality are fools. They are ignorant, and they are wrong. But they are not necessarily ill. I have seen mental illness up close, and it is no joke. What we have is an epidemic of folly when it comes to judging people in America, period. We are all subtly encouraged to find reasons to look down on one another, maybe because a man will endure almost any amount of suffering if he feels someone else is worse off! This is the basis for all the -isms. So we looked down on others for the color of their skin, until after many generations SOME of us have outgrown it. We looked down on others for their manner of worship or lack thereof, until again some of us outgrew it. Some of us still look down on the poor. Most of us pity the poor, which when you think about it obviously helps nobody, and is a way of looking down at them.

How do you draw the measure of a man? This is a question Americans need to ask themselves, and we rarely ask ourselves anything. I say measure a person by his or her actions; by behavior alone, not wealth or skin color or who they screw or even their opinions. But I'm a rare specimen these days: I am a thinking American.

That, my friend, is the heart of the problem. Americans see thinking as a form of work, and Americans see work as a necessary evil. Thinking is therefore to be avoided when possible! Calling this anti-gay priapism of the right an "illness" is a way of blaming the fools themselves, and certainly they deserve some of the blame. But this is a societal problem, and if we want to solve it we have to recognize the real problem behind the problem; it isn't the stupidity which should alarm us but the fact that the stupidity is able to take root.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 07:26 AM
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9. I have also
seen mental illness up close. I am a retired psychiatric social worker, with decades of experience working with those who suffer serious and persistent mental illnesses. I'm also aware of the differences between Axis 1 and Axis 2 mental illnesses; Axis 2 includes the range of mental illnesses known as personality disorders.

I'm also a student of sociology. One of the greatest influences on my thinking is Erich Fromm, the psychiatrist/sociologist. One of his most important contributions -- and one that is at very least as important today as it was when publishedin 1955 -- is his classic "The Sane Society." In it, he focuses on measures of a cultures "health" versus its level of "illness." Those measures include, but are not limited to, issues of major mental illnesses, and personality disorders. He also includes measures such as violence, substance abuse, and suicide.

If we focus upon violenc, which surely includes the hatred that is heaped upon gay and lesbian community members, then Fromm's 1973 "The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness" is of great value. I think that it would be difficult to deny that the homophobia we see is a malignant growth that puts our society's health at great risk. Every individual channeling that hatred is a cell in the tumor. Each one's diseased thinking is nothing, if not evidence of illness.

Of course, that is just my opinion. I understand that others think differently. However, I am convinced that in time, a healthy society will look back and identify homophobia as diseased thinking, and recognize that those infected with it were ill.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 07:35 AM
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10. You won't cure this malignancy cell by cell.
It is necessary to work on the overall health of the patient - the patient being American society. I am just concerned that putting the label of "illness" on it makes people put the fault (or the deficiency, your choice) on the individual rather than society.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 07:45 AM
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12. Society is an ocean.
That ocean is made up of millions of individual drops of water. One can focus on the distinction between the two, but one does not have to.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 07:42 AM
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11. On second thought, I'd call it a social illness, as opposed to mental illness.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 08:41 AM
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13. There is so much to recommend in your post.
I was lucky, I was taught early the foolishness of classifying people on appearance, sexuality or other overt signals. The downside was that I also learnt that education and pleasing demeanor were no guarantee that a person would be anything more than a twit. The only indicator I have ever found to be worthwhile is described in the phrase "well read," please note that does not mean well educated or even that they have been through classics of literature, science and philosophy. It means just that they have read widely, in differing genres and absorbed different views

Anyone can be well read in our society, thanks primarily to libraries, although the internet and open sources for out of copyright literature do seem to be taking a bigger role of this. Being well read means people can see 2 sides of an issue because they will have found books; or protagonists within books; with whom they can agree as well as those with whom they disagree. The world opens up the more people read and a greater variety of experience, expression and emotion seems to become available.

This bears upon the Tea Party and their equivalents on the left of politics because they seem terrified of a wider world, of new experience and of the expression of anything except group hate.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 10:55 AM
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15. Hell yeah
""Their inbred cousins, who spend years posting on the Free Republic internet forum, are equally ignorant about issues of democracy.
""


Democracy. It means inclusive as opposed to exclusive.

It means equality as opposed to elite.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 04:59 PM
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16. it is the eye witnesses here that make this place special to me.
seems like whatever happens in this country that is of import, there is a du'er there. so often they know so much that you will never find anywhere else. that is what i come here for. eye witness.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 05:10 PM
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17. Healthy "cell" seems to have a strong but porous boundary
In order to bring back health in this nation, each community needs to have a healthy boundary...otherwise they grow together in cancerous manner. And in order to have a strong sense of boundary, you need strong community made up by individuals who are conscious.

This thinking was first introduced to me by James Kunstler's "The Geography of Nowhere: The Rise and Decline of America's Man-Made Landscape"

http://www.amazon.com/Geography-Nowhere-Americas-Man-Made-Landscape/dp/0671888250
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