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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:32 PM
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OK, so let's give them a dose of their own medicine
Listening to Rachel ....
Muslims exempt from Obamacare
Obama's visit to India costing $200m/day

John Hodgman said "it came from the internet." Well, WE ARE THE DAMNED INTERNET!

Does google-bombing still work? Instead of spreading ridiculous lies, can we use it to spread the TRUTH?! Every time Michele Bachman pollutes the airwaves with some ridiculous anti-fact she heard "that's all over the media," can we do something to damp out the waves in the internet echo chamber? I don't know how the internets search engines works. What can we do to use the internet to our advantage?

For instance, take that exchange with Marcia Blackburn and Chris Matthews on Tuesday ... she wants to extend Bush tax cuts for rich people. She won't say where the money will come from, but says Defense will not be cut. OK ... let's fill in the blanks and "speculate" about where those cuts would come from. Totally legit, we're not making up facts. We're just wondering aloud where the cuts will come from, except it will be amplified so much that google will pick it up whenever someone googles Marcia Blackburn.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to spread fake rumors about Bachman and the other wingnuts. But that's not helpful. :(

Smart people, please make suggestions. How can we use the internet to beat them at their own game?

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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:39 PM
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1. Fake rumours?
"Don't get me wrong, I'd love to spread fake rumors about Bachman and the other wingnuts. But that's not helpful."

She's batshit crazy, conspiracy theorist, nut case. That's not a rumor, that's a fact. ;)
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:40 PM
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2. LOL! yes, i could get behind that fact.
;)

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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:44 PM
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3. I love it!
..I'm bookmarking this thread to follow up on it. It's a great idea. And why won't Boenher release his birth certificate? What is he hiding?
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:04 AM
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6. LOL! sign me up
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:05 AM by shireen
as a Boehner Birther!
:evilgrin:


Edited to add: if you figure out some of the technical details needed to do it, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Feel free to PM me.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:45 PM
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4. Make 'em deny it.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 11:49 PM by calimary
Is marcia blackburn getting some of her money from pornographers? A bin Laden relative? It's just something I heard. I mean, she won't say where she's getting her money from. Lord only knows who's backing her. Is she being bankrolled by child sex traffickers? Something not on the up-n-up here? Seems kinda fishy to me, don't you think? I dunno - I've heard some kinda troubling things.

I'm just saying...

I ABSOLUTELY think we should give them a taste of their own medicine. ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!

Destabilize the enemy. Do what Pox Noise does - pose it as a question. You're not accusing anybody of anything. You're snaking around the libel and slander thing just like they're doing. You're not saying this is true, you're just asking. Hey, if they can do it, we should do it.

Destabilize the enemy. Give them something else to do besides plot our destruction. As we were told in sparring class - "keep 'em busy." Keep 'em on defense. Make THEM the ones who have to react. Especially if they're used to planning for a certain predictable action or reaction from our side. Even the man with a broken arm and no kicking ability can keep an opponent busy just with constant jabbing. He can even win.

Destabilize the enemy. Surprise attacks. Guerrilla warfare. It's brought down the mightiest armies, whether it was the colonists against the Brits or the Viet Cong against the US. Be scrappy. Be sneaky. Be surprising. Our enemy is hard-wired to expect us to react like battered wives and they use the same kind of bullying tactics that work again and again and again and again. How 'bout we switch it up a little, for a change? Confront them with something they aren't used to, couldn't predict, and can't find in their playbook. They'd never expect anything like this from our side because we're always too nice and too noble and too into playing fair. So that's what they expect. Let's do something ELSE - employ tactics they DON'T expect and aren't prepared for.

Destabilize the enemy.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:55 PM
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5. It would have to be someone without much cred.
Our greats like KO, Rachel etc. Can't do it. I saw some idiot on Rachel today, looked like he was in a basement bunker and he was talking about the two birthmarks on Rachel's neck said, they looked like vampire marks. Then goes on to say 'we allow a 'vampire lesbian' to report news or something to that affect.

Someone without anything to lose could do this on youtube and then send it to cable - CNN and Faux News. :rofl:

I believe I'll see my GP soon. I may need some meds for this conditon. :P
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:07 AM
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7. that "vampire" guy is a satirist
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:11 AM by shireen
when i first saw it, i thought he was for real. He's good!

edited to add: hey, if those meds help you, lemme know. I need some inspiration. ;)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:12 AM
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9. No shit!! I thought he was for real
or for real as any of those batshit crazies. Thanks for telling me. :fistbump:
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:10 AM
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8. Love it ... we were just wondering about it. That's all.
We have so many highly speculative questions. But how do we get others to echo those questions over and over? :evilgrin:

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:26 AM
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11. Well, maybe we have to look at using the internets.
Drop some little speculative bombs in other chat rooms.

I heard that...

What would you do if you knew that...

Hey, you wouldn't believe what I heard at (fill in the republi-CON candidate's name here)'s victory party... (or after GOP candidate's concession speech)...

My sister (brother, uncle, aunt, cousin, husband, wife, next door neighbor) worked for (fill in the name...) and you wouldn't BELIEVE what I heard them gossiping about...

Hey, is it really true that...

Hey, did you hear that...

It can be small and subtle - I wouldn't go TOO outlandish. You don't want to stretch credibility. You want to start planting the seeds of doubt. Little nagging doubts. Little doubts that can start growing into bigger doubts. Especially while the bad guys are full of themselves and flush with victory and thinking they're frickin' invincible, and now they're all focused on various power struggles and pecking orders and committee chairmanships and positioning and who gets the best table at the hottest restaurant in Georgetown. They're plenty distracted at this moment. Now would be a good time to sneak in when they're so preoccupied.

Just plant something. You never know. And how are they gonna check? But the gossip starts, and pretty soon it just might start taking root.

PSY-OPS, people. Guerrilla warfare. They'd damn well be doing it to us. I'd bet some of them already are. Because they've got layers of operatives all over the country strategizing stuff like this. We have to do it, too, I'm afraid.

Destabilize the enemy.

Steal a page from kkkarl rove's playbook. He and his shouldn't be having ALL the fun, should they? But do it gently. Nothing too outlandish. Don't overreach (like the bad guys inevitably do). Nothing that's so ridiculous it's dismissed out-of-hand. Just create a little itch that really starts needing to be scratched. You want to create so many little holes in the dike that the bad guys start running out of fingers and toes trying to plug them.
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:40 AM
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10. I read on the internet,
(as I write it) that every time G.W. Bush flew back to Texas to his pig farm, I mean ranch, that it cost the taxpayers $7.5 billion! It's true, you can read it on the internet!
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