Missle, not plane, swamp gas. Google Link to "Notice to Mariners" PDF

[TalkingDog]

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B4LKPVeVLGcMNGZiZWUzNDQtNmU5Ni00ZmQ5LWIzNTYtZGFmYThiOGU4MTY5&hl=en&authkey=COic7sYH


It will not download, and you can view the file online. At the bottom of page III-1.7 or pages 55/56

pertinent text:

434/10(18).

EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.

[slackmaster]

1. No, it was an airplane flying toward the coast

:nuke:

The advisory about missile firing operations proves nothing. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

[tammywammy]

2. +1 n/t

[TalkingDog]

7. You forgot the sarcasm thingy.

Are you suggesting that the advisory is the propter hoc or the "airplane" is the propter hoc?

You logic, as it stands, eludes me.

[slackmaster]

9. It was an airplane, not a missile.

I don't know how I could state it any more simply.

[TalkingDog]

13. I could state it more simply: It's your opinion.

The date on the Mariner's notice was 11/6. BEFORE the missile.

Now, it's my opinion that it was a missile, but I have more proofs on my side than you do on yours.

Give me your proofs and I will consider your argument seriously.

[slackmaster]

15. The Mariner's notice in no way proves that the object was anything other than an airplane

Give me your proofs and I will consider your argument seriously.

The smoking gun is the fact that the object in question did not show up on civilian aviation radar.

Missiles ALWAYS show up on civilian aviation radar systems. Some military airplanes do not; and those happen to be aircraft about which the military never releases flight plans or past flight data.

[TalkingDog]

16. Now you have my attention.

So, Richardson was wrong too?

[slackmaster]

18. What's his explanation for the total lack of a radar track?

:hi:

[TalkingDog]

21. Can't read his mind. Ask him yourself.

But you could have saved yourself much pointless posting, if you had simply stated your argument clearly and concisely in the first reply.

I am no authority on anything related to these subjects; hence my posting on DU.

Now this is not a concession that I accept your thesis as any more valid than mine, but now at least it has equal weight.

If I could talk to Dough Richardson and pose your question, then I may have more information on which to base a judgment. So I'm back to where any good skeptic should be. I do not know.

[AtheistCrusader]

26. They issue that every week.

(240828Z OCT 2010)

434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S


Note that's for the last week in October. Same alert. Go back another week. Wait for next week. You'll see the same notice.
Not exactly a smoking gun.

[snooper2]

3. NEGATIVE

LAUNCH GO-NO-A-90045982

REPEAT

LAUNCH GO-NO-A-90045982

Vector A meet code hairpin in ocean now moon see blue A&W- 56-0Pooiu*9




We may have to resume in dungeon

[slackmaster]

4. Can you give me the vector, Victor?

[pintobean]

5. .

[TalkingDog]

6. +1 n/t

[TalkingDog]

8. Doug Richardson editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets

It’s not one of ours.

Pentagon Correspondent from the Times of London

Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, told The Times after examining the video: "It’s a solid propellant missile.You can tell from the efflux .

Now THIS is post hoc ergo propter hoc

But the dude is the worlds foremost authority..... who you gonna believe, him or your lying eyes?

[Eddie Haskell]

11. Do you have a link?

I'd believe the world's foremost authority, but since I'm told I'm a "conspiracy nut" bent on clouding the truth, I need a credible source.

[TalkingDog]

12. Go to the times of london, look up doug richardson

pay the fee, read the story.

[Eddie Haskell]

20. Thanks

Found it.

[Viking12]

10. It was an ICBM aimed at Iran...

However, it didn't make it because the Paladeans shot it down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx4MeBybkc&feature=channel

[TalkingDog]

14. You are just as laughable as the guy upthread incorrectly using Post Hoc

as a defense of his assertion that it was a plane.

I don't care if it was a test, a trial, an accident or if it was actually trying to do something. I'm a (classical)skeptic. I like facts.

You can attack the government bulletin in anyway you like. It's their bulletin not mine.

I don't have a dog in this fight other than finding the "skeptics" who are the only respondents rather lacking in either debate, critical thinking or psyop skills.

[slackmaster]

17. Please see reply #15

And refute it if you can.

And stop being so rude. It's totally uncalled-for.

[Merchant Marine]

19. I went ahead and plotted those coordinates. Looks like the right spot.

[TalkingDog]

22. And if you read the thread, how do you address the questions

regarding radar invisibility?

Not questioning your veracity, just forwarding the discussion.

[Merchant Marine]

24. Likely tests of a sea or submarine launch-able low visibility cruise missile

Ala the AGM-129 or AGM-158.

[cbayer]

23. This is the standard notice that is issued weekly for this area.

It covers the Pacific Missile Range and is a standing notice.

:shrug:

[AtheistCrusader]

25. DAMN YOU

DAAAAAAMMMN YOUUUUUU

I CAME ALL THE WAY HERE TO POST THIS WHEN I GOT HOME FROM WORK


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