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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 08:55 PM
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Go Cenk !!!
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Of course, this proposal doesn't help you to collect the Social Security payments that you're owed after a lifetime of paying into the system. It helps them rob you. Now, those are stark terms, but totally justified when you consider the second part of this so-called Deficit-Reduction Commission. Instead of addressing the deficit by doing spending cuts and tax increases (both painful and both necessary to reduce deficits), they actually cut taxes. That's mental. That makes the deficit much, much worse.

They propose to cut the top rate from 35% to 23% for the personal income tax, and the corporate tax rate would get cut from 35% to 26%. What an unbelievable joke. So, you have to cut Social Security and Medicare because you just had to give the rich one more gigantic tax cut? They'll claim they are getting rid of some tax exemptions and credits, but that doesn't come close to making up for the tax cuts they have proposed.

But we have to thank them for making their intentions undeniably clear. This Deficit-Reduction Commission has nothing to do with the deficit. It never did. I was always thought it was an excuse to cut Social Security to pay for the tax cuts that went to the rich and ate up the Social Security surplus. It turns out, it's more audacious than that. It cuts Social Security to pay for whole new round of tax cuts for the rich. The balls on these guys.

A new poll out by PPP indicates that when asked how to balance the budget, 43% of real Americans said tax the wealthy, 22% said cut defense spending and only 12% said cut Social Security. They didn't stutter. That's crystal clear. If some of our current politicians make the mistake of backing these cuts for Social Security, those numbers are going to come back to bite them. And they'll be our former politicians. I, for one, will work the rest of my life to kick out of office anyone who signs off on this robbery. I don't give a damn what party they claim to be from. That includes the president.

Through all of my frustrations with the president, I have never called for a primary opponent against him in 2012. And I don't know any other established progressive that has. If he pushes for this plan, he should definitely get a primary challenger. Because I couldn't vote for a guy who agreed to rob the middle class like this. This is definitely the last straw. If he does this, then he was never on our side to begin with.


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Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/cutting-social-security-i_b_782000.html

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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 08:58 PM
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1. Say what you will about Cenk
But I can't find a single thing there I disagree with.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:02 PM
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2. K & R nt
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:18 PM
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3. K&R Very clear.
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 09:20 PM by Waiting For Everyman
And very accurate. I agree 100%, including conclusions. Some things are intolerable and this is one.

That's IF it happens. (I sure hope it doesn't.)

The uber-rich ($1 mil+/yr) have to be taxed a LOT more before any cuts for little people are discussed and even then NOT SS/MC to non-wealthy recipients. Second has to be defense cutting, especially the graft contracts and an end to the war. Third, tax Wall Street short term "trading" (actually it's speculation). Fourth, eliminate all subsidies to the wealthy (including oil companies, agribusiness, and big pharma).

Then and only then, CONSIDER other ideas.

And btw while we're at it, make the media provide free air time for elections.

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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:26 PM
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4. Way to go Cenk.
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 09:30 PM by pa28
The core purpose here is a massive tax cut for the wealthiest and further redistribution of wealth. The method is a manufactured emergency in social security and a little Republican economic alchemy.

If Obama goes along with even a watered down version of this proposal he will have achieved the unattained ideological dreams of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. If this scenario becomes reality he might have better luck in 2012 by switching parties.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:42 PM
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5. That's right. Take a few desperate dollars from retirees so you don't have to tax the rich.
What are we becoming?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:22 PM
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6. K&R
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 12:02 AM
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7. K & R n/t
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 12:05 AM
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8. k&r
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:28 AM
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9. K&R!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:43 AM
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10. Rec'd n/t
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