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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:06 PM
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"And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money."
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 03:17 PM by Alexander
"There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice.

You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin’ years ago. They don’t want that.

You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later 'cause they own this fuckin' place.

It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good, honest, hard-working people continue — these are people of modest means — continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all! At all! At all!

And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it."

-George Carlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:07 PM
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1. Yup - he was right. And it's in full swing now. Thank you Fox News.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:26 AM
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23. This post ties in with the NYTimes article ...we took Nazi war criminals
into the US and gave them govt. jobs in the CIA, NASA and FBI..Nazis think the little people are slaves. Alan Simpson displayed his disdain for US. Guess he couldn't help it. But then again, so did Rahm Emmanuel.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:15 PM
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2. You should have maybe broken this into some paragraphs.
It's very hard to follow the lines when looking at a wall of text like this. Just some friendly, practical advice. :)
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:17 PM
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3. I just did. Thanks for that advice.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:22 AM
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30. Hey,
I love walls of text.
:bounce:
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:18 PM
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4. GWB said his biggest failure was not 'reforming' Social Security
And Obama is DETERMINED not to repeat that failure...


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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:22 PM
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5. There will never be another Carlin! k&r
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:24 PM
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6. We still have Lewis Black - who Carlin pretty much named as his true successor.
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RT_Fanatic Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:35 AM
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34. Gosh...I wish I could agree
As many times as I've heard his act, I just cannot find him funny or cutting. Not hatin', just sayin'.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:08 PM
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51. That might be because on TV they constantly beep his act...
He's extremely funny and a worthy successor to George Carlin...

But the anal fucks who own Comedy Central (Rupert Murdoch, I believe) censor the shit (and fuck and bullshit and etc.) out of his wonderfully paced diatribes...
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OnlinePoker Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:30 PM
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53. Comedy Central is owned by Viacom
I don't think Murdoch is involved.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:56 PM
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54. Ah, another corporate capitalist operation...
Thanks...
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:02 PM
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56. Perhaps this will change your mind:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:24 PM
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7. Randi Rhoades preaches the exact same points every day
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:34 PM
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8. One of the greatest rants of all time. nt
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ishaneferguson Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 04:09 PM
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9. Their "Gilded Age"
They want a return to their "Gilded Age"
They want a return to the times described by Upton Sinclair, John Steinbeck, and Charles Dickens.
They want a return to the days of child labor and 12-16 hour days.
They want a return to the days before unions, before environmental laws, factory floor laws.
They want a return to the days when they could befoul the air and water.
They want the society described in part in Margaret Atwood's Handmaids Tale.
They want what they tried to get in The Plot to Seize the White House: The Shocking True Story of the Conspiracy to Overthrow FDR by Jules Archer.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:35 AM
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33. Yes, they want those things. But for Asians.
They've used us up. Very shortly, they will have extracted all the value they can from the US, at which point we will be discarded and left to die in our poisoned environment.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:46 AM
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38. Then they'll move on from there.
Africa is their next target for slave labor.

Corporations operate like the aliens from the movie Independence Day, they suck a country/region dry and once they've done that, they move onto the next target.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:06 AM
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44. Or, if you want a more down-to-earth metaphor,
corporations are like a cancer metastasizing through the biosphere.

They are, in the final analysis, self-limiting, I suppose, but I take little comfort in that thought because I expect they'll kill us before they manage do do themselves in.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:10 PM
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10. He was a wise, wise man. he is sorely missed n/t
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:59 PM
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11. Sadly he was dead on. It's being done by Dems, no less.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:41 PM
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12. You can thank Ronald Reagan for the "big government" coming after
your Social Security money ...
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:44 AM
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21. I am certainly not one to defend RR, but I think you're confused
and have forgotten who is president. It's not 1984 anymore... president Barack Obama is the one who is doing this.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:39 AM
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36. "president Barack Obama is the one who is doing this."
Thanks Obama, thanks for nothing! :grr:
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:47 AM
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39. President Obama is finding it difficult to undo this
FTFY
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:55 AM
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41. Maybe he shouldn't have done it in the first place.
His BS about how SS/Medicare are 'entitlement', is sickening. We damn sure are entitled to what we've paid into!


He won't ever have to rely on either, so what does it matter to him? :eyes:
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MsPithy Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:56 AM
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42. Not entirely true.
Republicans have wanted to repeal The New Deal since the day it was signed, because they are greedy and selfish. But it was Clinton who signed the repeal of Glass-Steagall and brought in Rubin to make robbing the American taxpayers totally legal! Democrats may say they are the only party who work for the middle class, they might even believe it, but all they care about is the MONEY for their reelections.

Democrats think their only source of the really big money is Wall Street. That is why we will never see real financial reform. Jon Stewart is wrong about a lot of things, what he is most wrong about, is what he said about our struggle being corruption versus non-corruption. There is no corruption, the financial industry has bought so many Democratic politicians, they are writing the laws to make their kind of stealing legal!

Until we have publicly funded elections, until the politicians work for us, their lust for campaign money will ruin everything.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:11 PM
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52. Actually what happened was that when ray-gun was installed as pResident
(thanks to g.h.w.bush and wild bill casey's coniving with the Iranians)...

They sat him down and showed him what the actual deficit would be with his military build-up...

And what it would be if they continued to rob Social Security of the money set aside for the Boomers...

And asked him which number he though looked better...

for more:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9552262&mesg_id=9556644
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:28 PM
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58. YOU can only blame whoever does it. Passing the Buck doesn't wash anymore!
If Obama signs off on the destruction of our Social Security ..and he allows it to be stolen from us.and it is ours..then he owns it!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:53 PM
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13. "You and I are NOT in the big club". That line has been running through my head a lot lately.
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 09:54 PM by earth mom
May the bastards in "the big club" FRY in hell!!! (I hope hell really exists!) :grr:

RIP George!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:54 PM
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14. They've already taken a bunch of it in 401k schemes
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:18 PM
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15. Carlin was a prophet.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:53 AM
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27. A comedian not afraid to speak truth.
unlike some others that will remain nameless.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:56 PM
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16. Hell at the rate the American worker is going, there won't BE any retirement.
Thank you rich fuckers for ruining everything in this country for everyone but yourselves.

Tax revolt. We can do it.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:38 PM
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17. I love George Carlin
Prolly his best rant.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:06 AM
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18. K & R. As fitting and timely as ever.
He said it all.

Forever missed and immortal in his words.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:49 AM
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19. K & R nt
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:42 AM
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20. I call it "American Nightmare". RIP George. nt
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:52 AM
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22. imagine if he were still here what he'd be saying today.
i wish he was here because watching some of his stuff, you can see just how right he was.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:39 AM
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24. K&R
George Carlin was one insightful man to foresee what we are facing today.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:20 AM
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25. K&R I hope you're not right but I'd believe anything now. I realize that
I feel abandoned by the President and this administration. I am very remorseful that I worked to get friends and relatives to vote in 2008.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:23 AM
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45. I worked for Obama in 2008 and feel no remorse.
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 11:25 AM by Jackpine Radical
Given what I knew then, and even what I know now, I believe it was the only reasonable choice. I think we now have to plan how to wrest control from the plutocrats, but that is tomorrow's job. Electing Obama did accomplish some things. In particular, it somewhat slowed the rate at which we're circling the drain, and most of all, it showed us who our friends and enemies really are.

I will be meeting with selected friends over the next few months as we try to take back our local government. I've initiated the idea of a county platform. Although most of us are members of the county Dem party, we intend to operate outside the party because we want to exert our influence in certain "nonpartisan" races like the County Board and town boards.
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LibinMo Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:32 AM
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26. K & R
This rant should have it's own web site.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:08 AM
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28. Notice also that private PENSION plans have been crashed ... the money was
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 10:09 AM by defendandprotect
used to fund the movement of jobs overseas and the real estate bubble!!

Further, the pensions were underfunded for years as regulators were told to

loosen restrictions.


And how many people lost money from IRA accounts that weren't protected from

stock market crashes and fluctuations?

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:11 AM
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29. Here's a Huffington article with a PETITION .....
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:24 AM
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31. #1 Social Security is entirely seperate from the deficit
#2 - YOU CAN NOT HAVE A TAX CUT WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A DEFICIT! All you are doing is borrowing money, at interest, that we will all have to pay back later.

#3 - WE CAN ELIMINATE THE DEBT AND DEFICIT BY RETURNING TO THE GREATEST GENERATIONS TAX RATE ON THE ULTRA RICH!

Eliminating the Bush tax cut (4% increase) will raise 700 billion in revenues in 10 years. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/us/polit... ... )

Which means a 40% increase on the top tax rate to a rate similar to the pre-Reagan rate of 79.6% would yield 7 trillion in 10 years.

A 58% increase to 94% would yield over 10 trillion dollars over the next 10 years.

So our deficit of 1.3 trillion would be gone in a little over a year and our DEBT would be gone in under 10 years (as we pay it down).

Simple! Done and done - and we haven't added the critical taxes to investment income yet!

2010 Y1: 14T - 3T (2T normal revenues plus additional 1T from tax on ultra-rich) = 11T debt
2011 Y2: 11T(debt) + 1T(deficit) - 3T = 9T debt
2012 Y3: 9T(debt) + 600B(deficit) - 3T = 6.6T debt
2013 Y4: 6.6T(debt) + 700T(deficit) - 3T = 4.3T debt
2014 Y4: 4.3T(debt) + 800T(deficit) - 3T = 2.1T debt
2015 Y5: 2.1T(debt) + 800T(deficit) - 3T = .1T debt
2016 Y6: .1T(debt) + 900T(deficit) - 3T = +2 Trillion SURPLUS!!!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:41 AM
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37. +1000!
:thumbsup:
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:06 PM
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50. Actually, one of the most clever of the ray-gun era plots
was to begin using the "social security trust fund" against the actual deficit (spent for the huge military build-up - that hasn't slowed since Obama got in) in order to make the deficit seem smaller...

Now they owe the Boomers the money and they're starting to retire and collect...

So in addition to the interest on the debt, they'll soon have to pay back the Boomers with interest from the general fund in order to pay benefits...

And can't pay it back without serious increases in taxes and/or huge cuts in discretionary spending (but of course, NOT the useless war machine's budget)...

Or substantial cuts in Social Security benefits...

They're just getting us primed...

'Cause you know that whatever they do they won't harm their corporate capitalist masters...

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:27 AM
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32. K&R ! //nt
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:39 AM
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35. until people go to DC and strike
all our anger will mean nothing. they'll just do it because we won't stop them.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:49 AM
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40. Public pensions.
I've noticed recently that a lot of public pensions are being forcibly moved into 401K type plans. It's tragic, playing the stock market is no better than taking your money with you to a casino. The odds are against you and the house almost always wins.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:04 AM
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43. Exactly !!! - There IS A Class War, And It's On The Rest Of Us !!!
:mad::nuke::mad:

Kick & R !!!

:kick:
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:30 AM
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46. He left out one thing - 401K money....personal retirement accts
It is about as safe as your social security. One day it will be gone or confiscated as well.
There is no end to their pockets, not as long as there is money remaining in yours.
Huge K&R
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:59 AM
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49. 401K - forced participation in the capitalist phenomenon
known as "pump and dump"...

Or the "Widows and Orphan's cash confiscation program"...
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:42 AM
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47. k&r
http://www.marxists.org/archive/foster/1932/toward/02.htm#pec

THROUGHOUT capitalism the policy of the ruling class is to try to find a way out of the crisis by throwing its burden upon the shoulders of the working class, the poor farmers and the lower sections of the city petty bourgeoisie. This is being done by a vast system of starving the unemployed, wage-cuts, speed-up, inflation schemes, taxes directed against the masses, etc. In consequence, with the development of the crisis, there has been an enormous increase in the impoverishment of the toiling masses.


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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:43 AM
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48. K& f'in R
"It’s called the American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it."
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:59 PM
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55. K&R!
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:11 PM
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57. The plan all along..

has been to reduce the majority of us to the status of serfs in the corporate kingdom.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:40 PM
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59. Truer words have not been spoken
I miss George Carlin
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:39 PM
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60. kick n/t
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:52 PM
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61. Food Fight!
Old Folks Rally on the Capitol steps March 5th, 2011: Fight the Cat Food Commission

Step one: File for an extension on your 2010 tax return (too busy to file)

Step two: Show up in DC @ high noon March 5th (in remembrance of the Boston Massacre)

Step three: Bring a cane and a camera (video the police beating a bunch of old cripples)


Sponsored by Move On's new division: Limp On


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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:00 PM
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62. kick
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:44 PM
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63. And you only have one voice left
Your economic one!!!! Stop giving them your money!!! Take Your Money Back!! Why would you keep giving someone your money to screw you over. Doesn't make sense. They have corrupted every way you move except how you spend your money. Stop purchasing their products. Liquidate your investments. Oh I hear it now, I want a return on my investments. Okay but they are still bundling,swapping,and derivative shit in the game and it is all backed by us!! They are systematically pulling it out of the system in bonuses and off shore accounts!!!Why would you invest for a ceo to have a house bigger than yours. What About ENRON,Madoff,the Savings and Loan Scandals(JEB AND NEIL BUSH).They are coming to get it all so we will only be in the position to do their bidding. And I will say it again. If we keep giving them our money knowing that they are going to stick it to us why would we keep doing it??? They are somewhere laughing to themselves. We have them angry with each other over the silliest shit you can imagine like ethnic background,religion,sexuality,gender,and any other ridiculous bullshit while they give us their money and we get rich and they get poorer, works for us!! We must stop getting angry at all the polices we want and are not getting and Take Our Money Back and Demand what it is that we want!!!!

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