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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 08:46 PM
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The reasonable way to secure airports from terrorists attempting to smuggle explosives on board.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 08:53 PM
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1. Israeli air security interviews each passenger before they get on the plane.
That's right - They TALK to them. Sometimes the best security is the simplest.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:01 PM
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3. "... my experience leaving Tel Aviv was far and away the most unpleasant encounter I’d ever had with
airport security officials in the decade. Moscow in 1998 was worse. As best I could tell, things went pretty smoothly as long as you were (a) Israeli, (b) traveling with an Israeli, or (c) traveling with some kind of well-established tour group. I think this may be how the majority of people go through the airport, which may account for its good reputation. But it took me approximately three hours to get from the initial passport check through to the food court. I was told that I couldn’t take my iPad onto the plane, and therefore would have to check a whole bag that I’d been planning to carry on so that the bag could contain the forbidden device, and the same thing happened to two of the guys I was traveling with. Each individual item from the bad I was allowed to carry on had to be separately wiped down for traces of explosive residue and several items had to be wiped multiple times.

I was groped a couple of times, yelled at by surly Russian immigrants, accused of “lying” because I’d forgotten I had a second iPod charging cord in my bag, interrogated several times about who I’d talked to, etc.

What is true is that except for the Russian immigrants, who do bring the unique Russian approach to customer service, everyone is exceedingly polite. That said, the process took three hours! ..."

Israeli Airport Security
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/11/israeli-airport-security/
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jobendorfer Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:02 PM
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4. minor problem of scale
Israel has 30 airfields with paved runways. Two of those provide international air service.
The United States has 5,000 airfields with paved runways. Hundreds of airports that provide international service.
The Atlanta airport ALONE moves the equivalent of the entire population of Israel in about 8 weeks of normal operation.

I'm sure the Israelis have things to teach us about airport security.
That said: the small size of Israel, both in terms of population and geography, lets them do things that simply will not scale up to work here.

Even a 30 second interview per passenger implies a 2-hour (or more) load time for a single flight.
We do how many hundreds of thousands of flights a year here in the U.S.?

J.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:15 PM
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6. Mexico city moves the same traffic as JFK every day
They consulted El Al after 911, and yes the system was israelized.

No it is not Ben Gurion but it is much tougher than ours, but they started from a higher standard.

We think we can't, and follow the money.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:16 PM
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7. Don't forget, people taking domestic flights in the US also
have to be checked.
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 08:54 PM
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2. No profits to be made from that....sorry! n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:10 PM
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5. Do you have any idea how many people fly within the United States
on a typical weekday? How many trained dogs do you suppose would be needed to sniff every one of them and their luggage? How many trained bomb-sniffing dogs are there now?

Lots of questions. Do you have any answers to them?
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