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Mon Nov-22-10 11:29 AM
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Poll question: Who would you support in an NFL work stoppage? |
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There's a lot of news out there about the NFL not coming back next year because of labor issues. The owners want concessions from the union. The union wants their share of the pie.
Who would you support in an NFL work stoppage?
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:31 AM
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1. I don't support professional sports |
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Neither the owners or the players.
Labor issues? pfft
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:32 AM
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4. Labor issues aren't important to you? |
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:35 AM
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6. Speaking for myself, it depends on the trade/profession |
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I don't think I could support a union of foreclosure agents and private prison guards.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:23 PM
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21. Forclosure agents and private prison gaurds are still important parts of the workforce |
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And if they decide to unionize for better benefits and work conditions, so be it.
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:56 AM
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9. NFL salaries are to labor issues as Marie Antoinette is to feminism. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 12:19 PM by lumberjack_jeff
Let me know if some actual working class people strike.
NFL players can take their "scholarship" funded communications degrees and get a real job.
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:59 AM
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:24 PM
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22. Thousands of "working class people" will be effected if they don't have a season. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 12:24 PM by Renew Deal
Back office, parking, concessions, etc. will all be laid off. You're OK with that?
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:26 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 12:28 PM by lumberjack_jeff
You're suggesting that I should be supportive of an NFL players strike because of all the low wage workers behind the scenes who will be put out of work?
Whose argument are you trying to make?
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:27 PM
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27. I'm suggesting that a work stoppage is bad for "working class people." |
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And I'm suggesting that the players have traditional labor concerns that should be important to people that support workers.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:35 PM
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34. NFL labor concerns are a parody of traditional labor concerns. |
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A work stoppage is bad for working class people - none of whom are in that union. The union and the owners are the stampeding elephants who squash the little people indiscriminately.
The median salary for a Seattle Seahawk is $1m. The lowest salary is $310,000/year.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:18 PM
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18. $10 million contract is not a labor issue |
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If they were striking for safety of the players or something like that, I would understand.
Professional sports are not a sport, everything is a business and games are even run that way. All these suckers who support teams like Cleveland thinking they will be in the Super Bowel someday are blind.
I will stick with College Sports and leave the pros to the owners and the lawyers.
Last ticket to a professional event was in 1995.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:19 PM
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19. Where do you think those salaries came from? The good will of the owners? |
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 12:20 PM by Brickbat
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:25 PM
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23. I don't care where they come from |
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I will not help the owners pay for it by buying tickets to their events or purchasing the licensed merchandise.
$10 million dollars for the boys to party on then drive down the street kill someone, then special treatment because they are a super star.
I don't care and don't want to be a part of the circus called professional sports.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:30 PM
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29. No one is asking you to spend money on sports |
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The question is are you supportive of the workers in a labor dispute?
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:32 PM
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31. To which I say how can you have a labor dispute when you get paid $10 Million |
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When there are some real working class people having a labor dispute, call me.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:33 PM
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32. The owners want more work for not as much money |
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And they want rookies to make less money. The players want better health benefits and an extra bye week (aka vacation). There is a dispute.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:37 PM
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35. And 10% of America is out of work |
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Now there is a labor dispute
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:37 AM
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7. Last to be picked crowd eh? |
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 11:39 AM by trumad
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:16 PM
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17. Stopped supporting professional sports with Baseball 1995 strike |
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1995 or thereabouts
I just think that the money they get paid and the price I have to pay is ridiculous. I have not purchased one professional sporting event ticket since that time.
College is much more of a sport than the pros.
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:31 AM
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2. Whosoever continues the stoppage indefinitely |
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:32 AM
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3. I would support the NFL getting serious about injury prevention |
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That is my beef right now.
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:33 AM
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5. I support my AFL-CIO brothers and sisters. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 11:40 AM by Brickbat
ETA: Heh, I mean "I support my AFL-CIO brothers and sisters NO MATTER THE TRADE OR PROFESSION," hence the reference to "sisters."
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Mon Nov-22-10 11:50 AM
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8. Will no one think of the advertisers? |
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:sarcasm:
The truth is, I couldn't possibly care less. I don't support them now, so I don't know why I'd support them if they strike.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:00 PM
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11. I always support union workers. Period. |
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:09 PM
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13. The workers.they aren't all high-dollar superstars...and have a short career-span. |
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and are due the same rights as any labor group that has the bravery to unionize.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:14 PM
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14. Drew Brees is a member of the NFLPA executive board |
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he makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million a year. Sorry, if I can't get all worked up in support for someone like him. I support neither side in this fight. I just want football.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:26 PM
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24. The NFL is essentially proposing more work for not much more money |
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And if you're a rookie, for less money. The players also want improved long term health care. Those are traditional labor issues.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:15 PM
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15. I Would Blame Them Both For Taking Away The Sport I Love |
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However, it would all come down to which side is being more reasonable. As of right now, they're BOTH being fairly unreasonable. I'm all for a Salary Cap and a rookie salary structure and all that stuff. I'm also all for allowing players the freedom to work wherever they can. However, I think the owners are being kind of unreasonable to be claiming poverty, yet refusing to open up their books and prove it.
In the end, I think everyone involved remembers how much damage Major League Baseball caused itself when it went on strike back in 1994, and they won't allow that to happen. Both sides will posture and make "scary" predictions of a year without football, but in the end, a deal will be struck at the eleventh hour and the season will commence without any missed games. It's going to be exactly the same as a contract negotiation between a team and a diva-like draft pick. They'll both posture and threaten a holdout, but they'll end up signing the contract just before any meaningful action is missed.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:16 PM
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16. I wouldn't mind an NFL work stoppage. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 12:16 PM by ThatsMyBarack
In a world without football, 60 Minutes and The Amazing Race would be shown on time every week!
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:22 PM
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20. By default, the union. |
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But I'd be a lot happier about it if I saw the NFLPA supporting other unions' strikes.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:30 PM
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28. For now, I am neutral. |
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It is in no one's interest for them to go on strike. They need to come to an agreement.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:31 PM
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A work stoppage would be idiotic.
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:33 PM
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33. Why do the players not start their own league? If they think it is easy! |
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Mon Nov-22-10 12:45 PM
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36. Because they would have to use THEIR money to start one |
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