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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:42 AM
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USA Airport Security, Elders and the Disabled
USA Airport Security, Elders and the Disabled

Terri H. from Minnesota
(a friend sent me this email from her friend so I haven't received permission to post but can't wait so decided not to include her full name)

I am a wife of almost 50 years, a mom, grandmother and great-grandmother. I still teach part time for my state university; I am a respected community volunteer. Unfortunately, I am also a bionic woman (right knee 2000, left knee 2009) and a frequent flyer. Until late October 2010 this meant that since 9/11/01 I set off the metal scanners and always received an automatic (not random) pat down in the United States when I fly - although not when I flew through Montreal Canada, London England (2005) or Paris France (2007), where the metal detectors have been set lower.

If you watched the scanning process, you would see mostly grandmas and grandpas sheepishly and shakily standing, legs spread apart, arms out, being frisked, sometimes with spouses watching helplessly nearby. Talkative Transportation Security Agency employees (TSA) have told me that 80- 90% of their pat downs are on seniors with metal body parts or other folks with disabilities, although the TSA says they don’t keep these statistics. Try an informal survey yourself.

It is an uncomfortable, frustrating, time consuming and slightly humbling experience, especially when agents are rude or treat us like criminals. “Don’t touch your belongings.” “You can’t talk to your spouse or anyone else.” It is worth noting when agents are respectful or kind. And while the TSA says procedures are standardized, that is not my experience. For a while they even took away our Identification and boarding passes.

Sometimes, on the far side of security there is a cheering squad of elders standing quietly and commiserating. ”What did they get you for – a knee or a hip?”
All this changed in late October 2010 when Full Body Photo Scanners began to appear in some United States airports.
On Thursday November 11 I was glad to be departing St Paul, MN from the Humphrey or smaller terminal. Security was usually less stressful here; the agents less harried. Security measures had already impacted my life. For the first time in almost 20 years I had decided not to give a presentation at the conference I was attending. My past experiences traveling alone had made me wary of getting my laptop computer, an LCD projector and presentation materials through security when I was not able to stay within sight of them while I was being screened.

As a frequent flyer I was very familiar with the security check. This time it was different. A gruff older security woman barked, “Get your legs farther apart.” Then she dramatically pulled on long plastic surgical gloves, one by one. This was new. She was cranky, abrupt, and very slow. As I tottered, legs, spread, arms out, without explanation, she began cupping my breasts with her hands and squeezing them several times, first from the bottom and then from the top. My mouth dropped open. This had never happened before. She raised my shirt and slid her hands inside my panties and ran her hands along the inside of my waistband across my bare stomach and back/buttocks. Back and forth – several times. I said, “What are you doing?” She said, “New procedures.” On the outside of my clothes, she ran her fingers down the crack of my butt. As she ran her hands along my legs, she said, “I’m going to touch you high on your thighs.” This was a euphemism for squeezing my crotch with her hand.

“We’re not wanding you anymore”, she said, as if I should be grateful for the new sexually invasive procedure. “”It’s not fair. I’m going to have to do this all the time. The airport can’t afford to put the new photo scanners into this terminal”, she said with anger. “Oh”, I said, “You like the new scanners better? What do they feel like?” “How would I know”, she snapped, “I wouldn’t have one.”

As I sat to put my shoes, jacket and coat back on I watched the next three grandmothers react with horror at what was happening to us.
So – Who decides? Who decided that grandmas and grandpas, disabled vets and others with metal body parts – the deviants who set off the metal detectors - or those randomly selected, or those who refuse the new nude photo body scanners were going to receive sexually invasive pat downs? The timing on these new punitive procedures would indicate they were set to discourage people who object to the photo screening and instead are catching the hapless grandparents who have no recourse.
Who decided it was okay to take nude photographs of law abiding citizens in order for them to fly safely? If these computer images are so mundane, why are there such elaborate procedures in place to protect citizens regarding them? Can we really trust that these procedures will be followed? Don’t these photographs constitute a violation of the 4th amendment Rights of Privacy? Who decided these extraordinary measures are the only way we can be safe? How much did former Home Land Security Director Michael Chertoff gain by his testimony to Congress and his involvement with Rapsican, the California company that produces these machines? Some experts say the radiation effects have yet to be adequately tested.

Does everyone get screened? Is there equal treatment? Will President and Mrs. Obama and their daughters get screened? Members of Congress? Airline Presidents? Pilots have objected and gained exemption. Due to protests, children under 12 will not receive “enhanced” pat downs; what kind of pat-downs will they receive? What kind of pat-downs will our 13 year old daughters and sons receive? Is there a class system operating here?

Who trains the TSA employees? Who supervises them? Who holds them accountable for professional behavior? What redress do law abiding citizens have to this outrageous behavior by our government? $10,000 fines, inability to fly, jail time?
These procedures would constitute sexual harassment and or abuse in any other setting. Parents would be arrested for sexual abuse for touching their children in such a fashion. I have worked with youngsters teaching appropriate touch – good touch and bad touch. Are we to tell them? “Oh, except for when you go to the airport – then you must let government employees touch you inappropriately.”
I am embarrassed and ashamed of my government for its lack of judgment and respect for its citizens. I do not want my grand and great grandchildren growing up in a world where these behaviors are sanctioned. Surely we can find a balance to protect our children, elders and other citizens without terrorizing them ourselves.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:48 AM
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1. they have been doing these pat downs and gropings for years
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:56 AM
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3. No, they haven't. They recently have come up with new enhanced pat
downs.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:04 AM
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7. some airports must have more rigorous pat downs then?
my father in law who is extremely old was scrutinized so much over his metal inserts. Then then told him to take off his belt and he didn't have any under wear on so his pants dropped to the ground. The place was in an uproar and they carted him off. This was three years ago. We complained but they just ignored us.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:06 AM
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9. Yes they had patdowns but very less intrusive
I knew a woman that had a pacemaker so she could not go through the
metal detector and the pat downs were nothing like they are doing now
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:13 AM
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13. at NY they were very intrusive
and in London
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:10 AM
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10. They haven't - but even still, you say that as if it somehow makes it okay.
It isn't okay.

In case you've been in a cave the past couple months, TSA changed their policy on Oct 29 of this year in the way pat downs are done.

Speaking of caves, here's a nice photo for you:

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:11 AM
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12. they still haven't found him?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:23 AM
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17. I suspect they have a number of actors/body doubles.
Or he lives in a 'cave' somewhere in Crawford Texas.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:25 AM
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18. I think he died a long time ago.
How long can a man with supposedly bad kidneys last in a cave?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:13 AM
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14. not ok but not new
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:16 AM
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15. Yes it is new.
New enhanced pat downs and the x-ray scanners.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:22 AM
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16. I misunderstood your post. But yeah, it's new.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 02:01 AM
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22. no, no, they have NOT
you are seriously MISINFORMED
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:52 AM
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2. Rosa, no they have not!
I've flown fairly frequently. The older people used to take their shoes off and walk through the metal detectors. Before they went through or after I observed them telling the TSA agents about the knee and hip replacements. Then they went on their ways.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:58 AM
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4. A kick for our elders



:kick:
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:59 AM
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5. time to start riding the train again.
starve the airlines and they will change their procedures.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:02 AM
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6. It's not the airlines who is doing it. It's TSA.
TSA could very well do the same thing on trains.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:05 AM
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8. they might soon
and buses
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:10 AM
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11. It's time to fight back.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:32 AM
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19. I have an artificial ankle
A total ankle replacement. In 2008 when I set off a airport metal detector, I told them I had a metal ankle. The polite young man asked me if I wanted to sit down and then he put the wand over my ankle and of course it sounded. He let me go on my way and nobody put a hand on me. That's the way it should be.

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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:49 AM
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20. I have 2 hips and a knee replacement - I'm staying home - I should anyway at my age.~
Edited on Wed Nov-24-10 01:50 AM by Bobbieo
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:56 AM
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21. My family is in England and my parents are in their 80's
I'll have to fly there to see them before it's too late. Otherwise I'd never fly again. :)

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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 02:51 AM
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23. The nude-o-scopes guarantee that a person with metal
Edited on Wed Nov-24-10 02:53 AM by LibDemAlways
body parts will be humiliated twice. Once when the x-ray reveals the metal- along with everything else - and again when the criminal suspect (aka person with airline ticket) is then pulled aside for the full on genital squeeze. I have some pins in my ankle from an old surgery. I refuse to be both x-rayed and groped. I will not fly out of a US airport until the policy is changed.
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