Everyone wants to shit on Obama and Clinton.

[William769]

Where were the precious Liberals? I don't care if it was before during or after. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Can I be first?

n/t

[Mark Twain Girl]

7. Ahh, never actually sprayed a keyboard with a beverage before

but this post made it happen. And an auspicious evening for it, too. Ah, the memories we're creating.

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[uppityperson]

2. If you won't declare how you will vote until your vote won't influence outcome

I am glad they voted no, but think it was dirty politics. I hate politics.

[KoKo]

3. You mean for their "calculated votes?" Where they wait like snakes to see

which way the mouse goes before they strike?

[William769]

5. So you are defending all the yes votes?

Go right ahead, I'll be waiting.

[uppityperson]

13. None of us are defending any yes votes but are very disappointed in

the politics of these 2 people who are running for president. They did not lead but waited to see what others did. True leaders are not afraid to lead. Neither of these 2 did. While I appreciate their no votes, they should have done them sooner, before the bill had enough votes to pass already. That would have shown courage and leadership.

[earthlover]

24. well, it could be worse....

they could have not voted because they were busy campaigning for President....seems like that was something that was a frequent occurance during the 04 by more than one Democratic Senator running for President....

[ProSense]

4. Aren't they running for president?

Shouldn't they stand where and when people can see exactly where they stand?

[Sherman A1]

12. Exactly

This whole thing was stage managed to give cover for the primaries. I'm in the only money for Kucinich and Feingold camp (along with a few others that had the courage to vote no beforehand), the rest of them including my esteemed Senator McCaskill can just go fly a kite. Tomorrow she will get an email to take me off her mailing list, I don't want to hear their excuses.

:argh: :spank: :grr:

[Neshanic]

6. That's not true, I thought they were worthless way before it was fashionable.

[Joe for Clark]

9. Precious liberals - huh -

Man I am a moderate - and those people were nowhere.

I so want Gore - He is the right choice - hands down.

If I am wrong and he does not run - Edwards is the only real choice here.

Jesus Christ - at least he made the right choice now.

Joe

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

14. It is becoming apparent...

That the Dem nominee cannot be from either house of this present congressional delegation. They are way too compromised.

[Joe for Clark]

15. I think that is exactly right..

[Clark2008]

26. Edwards didn't have a choice now.

I'm sorry - I think he's a flip-flopping pure politician - always changing his mind to match what is popular.

[Solly Mack]

10. my kink doesn't bend that way

[mmonk]

11. Nah

[Hubert Flottz]

16. Not everyone does!

Here's what I mean...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x961155

[illinoisprogressive]

17. Because people are too ignorant to know the facts. Obama votes last all the time

try watching the senate first before passing judgement on people.
The ignorance is stiffling here.

[Neshanic]

19. So that's the excuse your going with? OK.

[EFerrari]

18. They're not worth it. And the Liberals voted no. Except for Harkin

afik, and who knows what his deal was.

[William769]

20. How many Liberals in the House? How many Liberals in the Senate?

What were the votes?

[EFerrari]

21. 140 in the House and 14 in the Senate, iirc.

Don't let tonight upset you, William.

[William769]

22. Tonight hasn't upset me.

If anything I am in utopia right now.

[EFerrari]

23. I'm glad someone is.

:)

[JVS]

25. kinky