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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 04:56 AM
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This is the change I voted for.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 05:30 AM by lamp_shade
"Courage, bravery, fortitude, will, and intrepidity, is the ability to confront fear, pain, risk/danger, uncertainty, or intimidation. "Physical courage" is courage in the face of physical pain, hardship, death, or threat of death, while "moral courage" is the ability to act rightly in the face of popular opposition, shame, scandal, or discouragement." Wikipedia

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"But I'm not willing to let working families across this country become collateral damage for political warfare here in Washington. And I'm not willing to let our economy slip backwards just as we're pulling ourselves out of this devastating recession. <snip> So, sympathetic as I am to those who prefer a fight over compromise, as much as the political wisdom may dictate fighting over solving problems, it would be the wrong thing to do. The American people didn’t send us here to wage symbolic battles or win symbolic victories. <snip> I have no doubt that everyone will find something in this compromise that they don’t like. In fact, there are things in here that I don’t like." President Obama
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 04:59 AM
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1. he DID let working families become collateral damage
that's why the rich bastards got so much more than THEY did
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:03 AM
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2. +10, not to mention ...
... giving the 2012 Senate and POTUS the perfect opportunity to make these things PERMANENT after the next election cycle.

We've been fucked.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:09 AM
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:25 AM
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9. hmmm....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:40 AM
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:10 AM
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4. Ding ding ding
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 05:12 AM by DearAbby
What President Obama thought in two years time after constant battle with GOP controlled house and emboldened GOP Senators would not go to make these cuts permanent? Dahlings that has been their goal since day one. They held those 6.7 Million people hostage while they made their demands, they demanded tax relief for the 2% on the lives of the 6.7 Million who stood to loose everything they own. And that is what rankles the shit out of me...it was meeting demands of terrorists in my view, they did what any low down dirty criminal would do demanding a ransom... This is not where it will end....Oh no dahlings, they got the fever now, now they can hold anything up, make their demands and get whatever they want....This is the begining, they found the weak spot.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:22 AM
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8. Why wouldn't a hypothetical Republican President make them permanent in 2013 even if they expired
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 05:22 AM by BzaDem
this year?
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:21 AM
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7. Actually, that is not true. Only 140 billion of the package goes to people making over 250k, out of
900 billion.

So while the rich certainly did get more than they should (and got much more per capita), the percentage of the package going to the poor and middle class is MUCH higher than the percentage of the package going to the rich.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:53 AM
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12. Thanks, BzaDem, for pointing that out.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:18 AM
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5. except there is no collateral damage if you win the fight
but why try to win, when surrender is so much easier?

We had a candidate once who said that the Bush tax cuts were a bad idea and that if we voted for him, he would deliver change we could believe in. He would end those tax cuts. When people said that we could not change things for the better, he promised that 'yes we can' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY

I guess his new slogan for 2012 is "I am not willing to fight for change"
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:20 AM
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6. It was not a COMpromise but a CONpromise.
I don't buy any deals with the Republicans that should have been a lesson learned years ago and neither should have Obama nor the Democrats in the Senate. II feel this is a form of terrorism and extortion on the working people of America.

I thought we don't give in to terrorist?

Its a CON by the Republicans and an empty promise on both party.

I need Grayson to tell it like it is and can't wait for his comments.





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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:28 AM
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10. You do realize that the "less than" sign in your OP indicates Obama's words are less than change?
Your OP, mathematically, indicates:
(The change I voted for) > ("But I'm not willing to let working families across this country..." President Obama)

Or: The change I voted for is a greater quantity than the words/actions of President Obama.

With that detail straight— K&R...
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 06:03 AM
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13. I fixed it, willy.
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