We're about to be lectured by the Pres

[me b zola]

CNN has a huge panel of talking heads saying that Obama needs to sell this tax "deal" to liberal Democrats. Take your blood pressure medicine now, its not going to be pretty.


On edit: This is what I posted ealier about the press confrence. Amazing how we can predict future behavior by past performance:

me b zola (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-07-10 10:42 AM
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13. Yeah, my blood is already boiling
What I expect to hear is him selling the republican plan to us along with there was nothing he could do to fight it, and hey, we've all got to make some sacrifices.

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[Tierra_y_Libertad]

1. He'd do better trying to sell Strawberry Flavored Magic Hair Restoration Oil.

[me b zola]

2. I'd be more willing to buy that then what he is about to try to sell to us

[QC]

8. That hair oil might work, but Reaganite tax cuts never do. n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. I need to learn how I can buy a drug for a 'hard on'

Well..... I'm overseas.... so keep me informed.

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[Scurrilous]

28. Yes, he's a carpetbagger.

You nailed it! :thumbsup:

[TBF]

4. I'm not watching. I've had enough of his "listen to what I say not what I do". nt

[Myrina]

13. Me too

:puke: Completely.Over.It.

[Bragi]

5. Summary: he's right, we're wrong. /nt

[Gin]

7. b uzz word.."temporary".....he is on now with the same old shit

[Donnachaidh]

9. uh oh -- didn't have time to write a new speech

Getting the same old tired mess from last night. :eyes:

[Pisces]

10. Lecturing or trying to get through thick heads with fingers in their ears.

[me b zola]

23. I rejected republican ideology as a teenager, that's why I became a Democrat

I don't understand why he or anyone else would believe I would believe republican policy to be viable now.

[treestar]

11. If they vote with him in the end, will they be endlessly accused of '

"caving?"

[Justitia]

12. yup, we're the ones being spanked - again. It's always the left taking it on the chin.

Notice we get verbally dressed down way more than the freaking repubs - by our own guys.

[myrna minx]

14. He sure knows how to fight his own base. That's leadership!

:eyes:

[Scurrilous]

15. My fingers are already in my ears. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Is he he going to be Strong and Uncompromising with us?

[Donnachaidh]

26. we're the only ones he's EVER strong and uncompromising with.

He offers wine lists and finger bowls to McConnell and Boehner :sarcasm:

[Bragi]

18. He will "continue to fight" !!! /nt

[Ganja Ninja]

25. He's ready to take them on in 2012.

I can't wait.:eyes:

[Donnachaidh]

30. yeah - the shadowboxing will be a sight to see.

I don't think the public will buy it again, though.

[Justitia]

32. yeah, what a f'ing JOKE -eom

[Subdivisions]

19. What a weak and pathetic defense. n/t

[AmandaMae]

20. ugh, glad I'm not watching.

[calimary]

41. Hey, reruns of "The Office" are kinda cool.

[RufusTFirefly]

21. Hey, if a socialist like Pres. Obama supports it, it MUST be good! n/t

:sarcasm:

(for the irony challenged)

[glitch]

22. Uhoh, they're coming dangerously close to admitting he's not a liberal Democrat.

Sloppy. On task CNN, surely you can find a better way to phrase this.

[Individualist]

29. They think we don't already know that.

[xloadiex]

24. Talking about his tax deal

To add 1000.00 more dollars to each paycheck next year. This is a joke. It's a reduction in what is deducted from our checks for Social Security. The employers will now not have to match this and line their pockets once again. Now employers can count that as everyone's "raise." This is total bullshit. Then they an come back with the old bullshit that SS is short because they lowered the deduction. I've had enough.

[RKP5637]

36. Yep, exactly what will happen! It is total bullshit. n/t

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[AndrewP]

31. Chill out....he's got this!

:sarcasm:

[RufusTFirefly]

34. A strategy so brilliant that we'll want to tell our grandchildren about it

You know, on alternate Sundays, when they get a few hours off.

[RKP5637]

37. Yep, that's the picture of the future. Too bad so many Americans still don't

get the picture of where we're headed.

[calimary]

47. That's because the ones who do are long dead. The ones who lived through that

at the turn of the century and were still waiting for some reforms. Because the shitty life they were living with no rights and no protections needed fixing. And things kinda did get fixed for awhile. And then their generation died off, unable to spread and share the lessons of what had happened to them and what needed to be done about it. And everybody coming up after them learned no lessons and just figured everything was okay and they went to sleep because they thought it was okay. And those who were still awake saw things from a different perspective like maybe this was overkill and unnecessary because things are better than they were back then and why do we need all these "excess" regulations and protections and safeguards? And THEY'RE the ones who decided to "fix" that. While everybody else stayed asleep and forgot that the message needed to be maintained and protected.

It makes me wonder just how frickin' bad it's going to get, and how many of us and our interests are going to be simply abandoned, before things get fixed again. I wonder if I'll see the pendulum swing back again, our way, in my lifetime. And I'm feeling rather doubtful about that.

I hate to quote ralph nader but I remember when he said things were going to have to get REALLY bad before there'd be any changes. I wonder how bad "REALLY bad" is going to be.

:scared: :banghead:

[RKP5637]

48. Yep, and that is a real fear I have, that things are going to have to get

REALLY bad before there'll be better. There is no generational knowledge of how miserable a place American was for many at one time. And those that try to remind people from where we came are sometimes branded as LW, dirty liberal hippies, socialists and it goes on and on. Like an addiction, I fear this is the same, that not until the country hits rock bottom for most will they wake up.

I just never cease to be amazed at how people fall for propaganda and vote for those politicians most diametrically opposed to their needs and what is better ... The republicans thrive over the generational ignorance of many in terms of how miserable a place American was for many at one time and how we are sliding backward.

[calimary]

51. No kidding.

And hey, let's screw the teachers and insist that the-world-is-6,000-years-old crap be taught in science class. And after a couple of decades of that, let's all sit around and wonder why we're being outclassed by almost every other nation on the planet.

Is our children learning...

[nichomachus]

39. Reminds me of an old poem

The golf links lie so close the mill
That almost every day
The little children can look out
And see the men at play

[AndrewP]

46. +1

[RKP5637]

33. Wonder what will be said when these expire if passed and unemployment rate is

the same. SOS again.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

35. Jan Schakowsky: I absolutely want to see us fight

Ed Schults asked Jan (IL-9, Chicago) if she stands with the President.

Jan: I absolutely want to see us fight


When Jan can't say she stands with the President, that's a pretty big deal in Chicago.

[me b zola]

38. I called my congress critters this morning--

I told my Senator to stand with Bernie on filibustering this "deal". I told my congressman to fight against this and not just give lip service to fighting against it.

I also finally got through to the White House (on hold forever). As I was making my case to the staffer, I could have sworn I heard him turing the pages of a magazine. :eyes:

[RKP5637]

49. Often when I've called my congressmen the staffers could not have been less interested. n/t

[me b zola]

50. I remember calling a senator's office about John Robert's nomination to SCOTUS

I was making a well reasoned argument as to why the senator should vote no on the nomination, and the staffer laughed at me. Screw them, I'm going to keep calling.

[Write Left]

40. Final question: Umm, what WILL you stand up for?

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[Justitia]

43. He said this is the same as the "public option" debate & deriding us - calling us "purists".

well, fuck me

now, it's "abstract ideals"

damn, this is way fucking worse than I had even imagined.

[Write Left]

44. Not a particularly strong finish.

It was like a closing argument for the defense.

[piratefish08]

45. He needs to step aside and let a grown up take over.

I'm fucking sickened now. We've been sold out.