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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 04:27 PM
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What Biden REALLY said on CNN today -
Was that not everybody is Moveon.org.
That he RESPECTS THEM AND RESPECTS THEIR FRUSTRATION.

And he also said
"I’m not running for
president to get the nomination by any cost."

Meaning that he is not willing to change his vote just to win the nomination..... not that anyone currently running would have done that on Thurs :rofl:

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 04:29 PM
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1. Message to Joe Biden:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 04:33 PM
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2. Hey! That's unsophisticated!
And, readers of this fine blog will have to pardon US for being unsophisticated in our demands WHILE PEOPLE ARE MOTHER-FUCKING DYING YOU MOTHER FUCKING INSIDE THE BELTWAY D.C. FUCKS!

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 04:33 PM
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3. Now that is sophistication at its best
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 04:35 PM
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4. I figured, in honor of Biden's notorious wind-baggery
I should keep it brief and to the point.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:35 PM
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5. Al Gore 2008. Yes. The rest is irrelevant. eom
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 06:28 PM
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6. The other thread has taken a soundbite and twisted it around to
put words in Joe's mouth.

It is no different than what the pundits do to our candidates.
Joe did NOT call moveon.com people unsophisticated.

I just watched the segment over again and am in total disbelief that of everything Biden said this is what someone wanted to focus on, when it is not even true.

I repeat - Biden said he had RESPECT for the members of Moveon.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:51 AM
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7. I never knew DUers were on the same level as the Swiftboat Liars
You took something completely out of context that Biden said to take out your frustrations that ONLY 14 DEMOCRATS VOTED NO on Thursday.

It's no different than what the SBV's did to Kerry. Playing clips of what he said and stopping them at a specified point to make him look stupid.

Doesn't matter that Joe has been working hard for over 3 years to find an end to this war that won't leave the region in chaos. Or that he doesn't have to HIRE someone to teach him about foreign affairs like 3 of the other candidates do.

And you better swiftboat John Murtha too. He voted YES on Thursday.
Nevermind that he was the first one with the balls to take on this administration, and that he once was everybody's hero.

For all of you that are leaving the Democratic party - don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:55 AM
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8. He "respects their frustration" but panders to the right wing.
In a "sophisticated" way, of course.

Too bad they don't make "plugs" big enough for Joe's never closed mouth.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 02:06 AM
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9. Wake up -
Since when has Biden pandered to the right wing?

And in your response - I want links.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 02:07 AM
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10. Voted for the IWR. Voted for the funding.
Look 'em up for yourself.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 02:29 AM
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11. And this doesn't matter?
***August 3, 2006


Biden Initiative Passes Senate: No Permanent Bases in Iraq

Washington, DC – Today, the U.S. Senate passed an amendment introduced by U.S. Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) that would put the Senate on record as opposing permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq and U.S. control of the country’s natural resources. Biden’s amendment was part of the FY’07 Department of Defense Appropriations Bill, annual legislation that funds U.S. military activities around the world.

http://biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=261281&&

***notice date on this one (gee - WAY before all of the other candidates running)
June 21, 2006


Biden Leads on Iraq Strategy

WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) was instrumental in spearheading key elements of an amendment to the Defense Authorization bill that sets out a strategy for success in Iraq. The amendment, introduced by Senators Carl Levin, Jack Reed, Dianne Feinstein and Ken Salazar, calls for starting a “phased redeployment” of U.S. forces from Iraq in 2006 and a plan to stabilize Iraq.

http://biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=257590&&

***here's him fighting against Bush and this war in 2005
June 15, 2005
Press Release

Biden Calls for More Candor From the Administration and More Congressional Oversight on Iraq Policy

WASHINGTON, DC -- Citing the need to regain the public’s trust, U.S. Senator Joe Biden (D-DE), the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, today called on Congress to hold more hearings on Iraq and asked President Bush to level with the American people.

Biden, who recently returned from his fifth trip to Iraq, said that Congress and the Administration should develop clear benchmarks for progress in Iraq in several key areas: security, reconstruction, governance and internationalization.
http://biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=238991

***Biden was the first one in the Senate to start the debate on Iraq:
02/05/2007

Today, the Senate takes the first step in a bipartisan effort to prevent the escalation of the war in Iraq - and to adopt a new strategy for leaving Iraq without leaving chaos behind.

That first step is to debate and vote on the resolution offered by Senator Warner, and re-introduced by Senator Levin and me as a bill, that says that the Senate disagrees with the President's plan to send 17,500 more American troops into the middle of a civil war in Baghdad.

***And he got the troops MRAPs...until the idiot in chief vetoed that bill.

"What in the hell are we doing?" the senator demanded to know. "How can we justify anything, anything we do before we spend that money now to put these kids in those vehicles?" Because each MRAP transports four to 12 troops, accelerating this year's production by 2,500 vehicles would "affect from 10,000 to 30,000 lives in the next six months," he explained. "We're sitting here making no sacrifices, making no sounds about the urgency of doing that?"

His resolution passed unanimously.


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I could do this all nite ...but here is his comments on why he voted the way he did WHICH WAS KNOWN 2 DAYS BEFORE THE VOTE not when the vote was almost over:
But the practical reality is that, for now, those of us who want to change course in Iraq don't have the votes to override the President's veto. And I believe that as long as we have troops on the frontlines, we must give them the equipment and protection they need. So I will vote for the supplemental.

And his plan for Iraq has received bipartisan recognition from all over.

So go ahead - have fun playing Swiftboats.

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