Fuck you, bush. Just FUCK you. Those who died in Iraq died for NOTHING.

[Redstone]

And you know it.

And we know it.

They died for nothing, you cynical, lying psychopath.

Redstone

[wtmusic]

1. Feel better?

Sometimes it helps. For a while.

[Redstone]

11. Unfortunately, I don't. My rant doesn't change the facts. Wish it could. Thanks anyway, wtm.

Redstone

[Fridays Child]

2. Sign my name to that, please.

[Edgeoforever]

3. What he said!

[BrklynLiberal]

4. What HE said!!!

x(



That slimy piece of crap has the nerve to stand up in front of people and lay claim to glory and respect. :puke:

[Redstone]

14. And still manages to be able to look himself in a mirror. Just amazing.

Redstone

[Lisa]

33. I wonder what he sees?

Technically, there is not much left of "himself" to look at -- I keep thinking that it's going to dissolve soon (like the cartoon figures in the original "Who Censored Roger Rabbit?" novel).

[BlueIris]

5. PROUD to be the 5th rec. I LOVE YOU, REDSTONE!!!

[Redstone]

12. I haven't seen you tell me that for quite a while. It's good to hear it again.

Redstone

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

6. Perfectly said, Redstone.

:applause: :applause:

[eleny]

7. They die for "Bling"

[NightWatcher]

8. they died for lots.....of money for bush and his evil crime syndicate

lots of money was made off of the blood of our innocent troops.

choke in hell, bush

[zippy890]

9. kick that f****er out of office

you got that right redstone

[still_one]

10. Actually you are wrong, they died for big oil, specifically the Saudi lock on OPEC

It may not have been what was sold to them, but it is the fact

The whole point of this war was to keep oil high. They miscalculated though, because the Shia now have control of Iraq, and that may most likely mean Iran, which would give them power against the Saudis in OPEC

When Cheney was called to Saudi Arabia at Thanksgiving, he was given in no uncertain terms, the U.S. better not pull out of Iraq, because of the oil cartel, NOT becasue of their Sunni brothers

After 9/11, I believe Kerry and McCain co-sponsered a bill to raise the fuel standards on cars. It was widely defeated.

None of this is a coincidence with big oil in the White House, and their influence in Congress

[Disturbed]

13. They died and will keep dying and being wounded for

the Multi-Natl. Corps, incl. Oil Corps. The US will maintain a presence in Iraq for decades no matter which political party is in power.

[SeattleGirl]

15. Amen, Redstone.

Amen.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. I think it is worse than that

I don't think he cares--they are the "lessers" who must be the willing servants of the "betters", and no one else matters but the "betters" in Bush's book.

[scarface2004]

17. couldn't have said it any better

i need a bumper sticker with that on it.

[indepat]

18. Could be argued trillions of dollars of Iraqi oil inuring to the benefit of big oil ain't exactly

nothing.

[Loge23]

19. They may not be in vain

If this country ever wakes up to the fact that we have suffered a coup in our leadership, then maybe - just maybe - their deaths are not in vain.
If this country continues to accept their deaths as an honorable sacrifice for this country, then they died in vain.
We are slaughtering our military by sending them over there for a lie.

[partylessinOhio]

20. Yes, F him. They all died for nothing. The wounded are suffering for

nothing.

But don't forget that Congress gave the bastard the powers and have put us into massive debt funding his mass killing for lies. They bear the guilt too. What is their excuse???

[Redstone]

27. The members of Congress who enabled this foul travesty are EVERY BIT as much to blame, I agree.

Funny, I didn't see many DUers who were fooled by the lies, back then. How come all those Congresspeople were?

Redstone

[Lugnut]

35. Exactly!

If we knew why didn't they?

[Initech]

21. Fuck Bush, fuck the war. A whole lot of nothing.

War HUH!!! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!!! Say it again!!!

[KittyWampus]

22. You've just made a Value Judgement you have no right to make for other people.

You are entitled to your opinion on the lives and deaths of other people.

But you speak from a very limited perspective.

From the widest perspective, I'd say that as the individual deaths add up, each was necessary to stop the USA's slide into facism and the insatiable lust too many of our leaders have had for world domination.

[Redstone]

24. Oh, sure, they died in the Fight Against Incipient Fascism, and their deaths were NECESSARY.

God, spare me. Tell that to their families, would you? I bet that'll comfort the families a whole bunch.

You said: "...each (death) was necessary..."

Little bit of value judgement on your part right there?

Christ, your post is even more cynical than what bush said. I never thought I'd ever see ANYONE be more callous about our dead soldiers than bush is, but you just managed to be.

Human beings. Your countrymen and women, not to mention all those Iraqis, including hundreds, if not thousands, of children. They're dead. And it's OK, because it's "necessary."

Necessary? Not to me, it isn't.

Redstone

[KittyWampus]

37. Ok, YOU go to a bereaved family who has just lost a child in Iraq & tell them their kid died

for nothing. I'm sure that will make them feel better. After all, your little rant made YOU feel better or not.

And it seems you can't handle an historical perspective.

But we find societies and individuals always needing a certain amount of pain before they get off their asses to deal with problems.

That is just the way Life is.

[Redstone]

39. It would beat the hell out of telling them that is was NECESSARY. Plus, they already know.

And I have enough historical perspective to know that it's not up to ME (nor is it up to you) to tell anyone that they have to die because it's "necessary."

Who appointed you God, that you should decide who dies because it's "necessary?"

Redstone

[Redstone]

31. So, nothing else to defend your contention?

I thought not.

Redstone

[blues90]

23. They did die for NOTHING

We are no safer , we are much poorer and we all know the mission is for the big oil grab and planned chaos .

Bush has done nothing but lie and talk about flip flopping , there is no better example other than bush .

Many more will now die with the help of the DEMs grand folding , if their plan was for political gain then they are no better than the repubs who brought us this murderous madness . If they can;t stand up for the troops then they are cowards .

What the people of this country as well as the politicians should be asked and be required to answer is , is it worth all the lives lost just to continue to drive your car because this is really what it's all about . Blood and ruin for oil , the entire thing from day one makes me sick .

[porphyrian]

25. I'll kick that. - n/t

[poiuytsister]

26. Exactly, Redstone

Exactly how I feel

[EFerrari]

28. Twice.

[Cabcere]

29. Sad but true.

:cry: K&R. :hug: Redstone.

[Skip Intro]

30. AMEN!

K&R

[bdamomma]

32. well said Redstone, even tonite on PBS Newshour, they showed

14 more who died for nothing but lies, 14 more.....sigh. This regime needs to be hauled off the premises, they are nothing but criminals. and * is nothing but a POS.

[Critters2]

34. From your lips to *'s ears! Thank you, Redstone. nt

[midnight]

36. They died for money. I don't recall what speach he gave this

year, but he stated that "Money trumps Peace". Remember those words because they are the mantra of the new world order.

[Kablooie]

38. but NOW what he is doing IS SANCTIONED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!