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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:29 PM
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Radio Globo has been giving a lot of information this evening.

The next 48 hours will be critical with the arrival of the several foreign ministers, vice foreign ministers, ambassadors, EU, OAS, UNASUR, and UN reps.

The process has evolved from diplomatic in the first few weeks to massive civil resistance in the streets to a purely political stage beginning tomorrow. But whatever happens, a revolutionary social change has already taken place and Honduras will never be the same. Zelaya has named Cesar Ham, Barahona and Alegria to represent him in some of the negotations with the foreign delegations. Goriletti also to have three reps.

Beginning tomorrow, Globo will be aired on a network comprising radio stations in Central, South and North America to smash the media blackout the golpistas installed. The network will be via satellite from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. to 4 p.m.

There was a strange announcement by the golpistas today that all public schools would be militarized and all students would be promoted to the next grade. Have no other information about why. The golpistas are organizing paid or forced "white shirt" rally tomorrow as the foreign delegations arrive.

Berta Oliva of the Honduran Human Rights ommittee said tonight that as of June 28,

16 people who were directly active in the resistance had been killed. Another man name Jairo was near death tonight from a bullet wound to the head.
3,200 people have been illegaly detained.
51 police and military checkpoints had been set up on highways around the country.
150 cases of people beaten were reported.
145 cases of people tortured (some used as human ash trays.)
3 cases of women raped.
280 cases of police/military savagery.
25 social leaders had reported death threats.
5 persons had been taken out of the country because of the threats.
11 persons, including 4 children, have sought political asylum in the Guatemalan Embassy due to the threats.
4 office and 14 residential searches without warrants.
4 attacks on buildings housing social organizations with bombs and bullets.
21 cases of outright censorship,
1 radio journalist killed, 26 others beaten, many have lost jobs when their media closed. Millions deprived of right to information.
92 people have been accused of terrorism.
42 people are classified as political prisoners.
38 people accused of sedition are on a hunger strike in a prison. Resistance lawyers and human rights workers tonight protecting them in jail.
There have NO reports of any soldier or police killed.



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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:36 PM
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1. All three, Cesar Ham, Barahona and Alegria
have received threats.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:38 PM
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2. rabs, is it Berta's sister that is Agustina and is in detention?
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:51 PM
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3. Not sure, will look around ...




fyi Thomas Shannon all of a sudden has inserted himself in the negotations that begin tomorrow under the umbrella of the OAS. Guess Hillary wanted someone there with more weight than Llorens.

Panamá, Panama

La misión de cancilleres y diplomáticos de la Organización de Estados Americanos (OEA) que llegará el miércoles a Honduras se amplió con la presencia del subsecretario de Estado para América Latina, Thomas Shannon, informó la organización este martes.

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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:16 PM
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4. Looks like Agustina is not related to Berta



Do you know the latest about her? I think a woman died from toxic poisoning from gases she inhaled at the Brazilian Embassy last week but do not know whether it was Agustina. Hope not.

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On 24 September at 6:30 pm, I was called by Berta Cáceres, leader of the Lenca indigenous organization COPINH, sister of Agustina and the President of COFADEH, Berta Oliva, to urgently assess the condition of health of Agustina, who is incarcerated at the Criminal Investigation Directorate (DGIC) in Comayagüela.

http://www.quotha.net/node/422

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:33 AM
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9. I believe this is a recent video of Agustina:
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:19 PM
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5. I think I posted the article from Quixote Center.
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 11:20 PM by Downwinder
Yesterday at least three people who had been arrested last Tuesday in front of the Brazilian Embassy had hearings today. Included was Augustina Flores, the sister of Berta Casares, who according to medical reports is in a delicate state of health. In spite of her serious health issues, she was sent to the women’s prison until her trial.

http://quixote.org/content/more-repression-today-honduras
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:31 AM
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7. So I had my Bertas mixed up. Thank you.
:hi:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:06 AM
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6. Thanks very much for the update nt
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:33 AM
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8. You're very welcome and thanks to you for all the info you provide.




Fyi in our home we have sort of become addicted to Radio Globo online. It certainly beats watching mind-numbing TV.

One of the unexpected side products of the golpe has been the explosion of anti-golpista, anti-goriletti and pro-Zelaya songs and music. The lyrics are witty, biting, and fun to listen to. Expect that there will be CDs of the music after this is all over.

I have discovered over the years that Latin American lefties always have the best music; Mercedes Sosa of Argentina comes to mind, Violetta Parra of Chile, Atahualpa Yupanqui of Uruguay, Cayetano Veloso and Chico Buarque de Holanda of Brazil, Silvio Rodriguez of Cuba, Quilapayun of Chile (the group that introduced "El Pueblo Unido Jamas Sera Vencido) and many, many other artists and groups.

At Radio Globo there is a young, (24-year-old) radio journalist who has become the sweetheart of the resistance because of her reporting and call-in show. Her name is Ariela Cacares and she too has been threatened. She will go far and probably be showered with awards for her work for the resistance.

Good music is on as write this ... (hit option 2 or 3 if it does not immediately come on.)

http://www.radioglobohonduras.com/chat3.html



http://www.radioglobohonduras.com/chat3.html
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:41 AM
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19. She is feisty ! nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:35 AM
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10. Here's the COFADEH website:
http://www.cofadeh.org/

The CODEH website is also interesting, though it seems not to have been updated since May:


La Fiscalía Contra el Crimen Organizado citó ayer al presidente del Comité para la Defensa de los Derechos Humanos en Honduras (CODEH), Andrés Pavón, para que confirme la denuncia de que habría un plan para capturar al presidente Manuel Zelaya Rosales porque está promoviendo la participación ciudadana ...

Hay grupos terroristas clandestinos listos para detener al presidente Manuel Zelaya Rosales en caso que en los tribunales se le formulen cargos por promover la participación ciudadana ...

http://www.codeh.hn/
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:04 AM
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12. WHOA , this article dated May 6 was an alert that the coup was coming

Andrés Pavón denounced that there was a plan afoot to oust Zelaya, almost two months before the golpe de estado.

Amazing. Had not seen this anywhere in any other media, much less the English-language media.

http://www.codeh.hn/

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:48 AM
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13. Isn't that interesting? And isn't it frighteningly suggestive the website hasn't been updated?
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:29 AM
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16. Nice little bombshell you innocently dropped in our laps



:hi: Yes, curious about why no updates since May. Will be out all day but will come back tonight to check out everything that is on that website.

Thanks for finding the website and posting it.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:34 PM
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23. I'm eager to hear about what you learn
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:41 AM
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24. See "Root cause of the golpe against Zelaya ?" thread I just posted



It is long and complicated so gave it a separate thread. Your link last night led to some juicy info.

:hi:

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:01 AM
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14. Oh, boy. For those of us who don't speak Spanish fluently, here's a google translation
of the article rabs and struggle4progress discussed, written BEFORE the coup:
The Prosecution Against Organized Crime yesterday quoted the chairman of the Committee for the Defense of Human Rights in Honduras (CODEH), Andres Pavon, to confirm the claim that would have a plan to capture President Manuel Zelaya Rosales is promoting participation because citizen, but the activist said he does not attend the call ... (Read more)

According to Pavon, the plan provides that the president would be caught by an underground group of terrorists, once in court you formalized legal action against him.

One of the spokesmen of Public Prosecutions, Melvin Duarte, told reporters that the prosecution against Organized Crime sent a summons to appear Pavón today to testify about the case.

"The Special Prosecutor's Office against Organized Crime has informally opened an inquiry to investigate such extremes, especially because he has referred to acts of terrorism," said Duarte.

He said the goal is to provide the evidence Pavon who claims to have about the case and stated that in case Pavón appear before the prosecution, they will send another summons.

Not appear

Pavon TIME reported yesterday that today will not attend the Public Ministry, since for him the prosecution wants to "hide the substance of the allegations we have articulated.

The human rights activist said the complaint is toral of technical blow to President Zelaya and not terrorism, and said his opinion on the latter topic is off the attorney general statements Luis Alberto Rubio, who said he "would hire particular for the arrest of agent "if the police failed to comply with the provisions reached by a court to order an arrest warrant against the president.

"We state that a coup was intended technical and we are inviting them (above) for the crime of terrorism and that we express as a result of the prosecutor's statements," he said.
http://www.codeh.hn/pavon_constituyente2.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Astonishing discovery, rabs.

Jeez.

Thank you.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:36 AM
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15. Can somebody help with this translation?
The article mentions the date of April 23 of this year. Do I understand this correctly? A woman Deputy (is that a congresswoman?) named Maria Margarita Zelaya criticized Mitcheletti (back when he was just president of the congress not Thug-in-Chief of Honduras) and was subjected to attacks on the basis of her sex because she spoke out against Mitcheletti?

Google translation of the article at the CODEH site...

The Committee for the Defense of Human Rights Honduras (CODEH), pronounced with great concern, to acts of violence and aggression that are recorded continuously in the country, against women. On 23 April this year the attorney Ritzy Xiomara Almendarez came before the Special Prosecutor Women bring to the knowledge .

Causes us concern the systematic assault on human dignity to the detriment of women as a result of historically unequal relationships be imposed between women and men, as cited by the Convention on the Prevention, Punishment and Eradication of Violence against Women, which legitimize or exacerbate violence against women.


Honduras is a signatory of the American Convention on the Prevention, Punishment and Eradication of Violence against Women, the treaty in its Article 3 states "every woman has the right to live free of violence both in public and private" recognizes the equal enjoyment , exercise and protection of all human rights for women.

Also in recent years Honduras has killed more than 400 women and has reflected a clear attack on human rights, we deem it necessary, urgent and above all fair to investigate these femicide and both punish the masterminds and materials of these violent attacks and killings committed against females.


We urge the prosecution to proceed, immediately initiate the investigation of this fact and others that have occurred in the National Congress and that it proceed within the framework of the law so that these events are never repeated in history Honduras.


Yolanda Smith
Department of Communication
CODEH


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The original...

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El Comité para la Defensa de los Derechos Humanos en Honduras (CODEH), se pronuncia con extrema preocupación, ante los actos de violencia y agresión que se registran de manera continua en el país, en contra de las mujeres.

El día 23 de abril del presente año la abogada Ritzy Xiomara Almendarez acudió ante la Fiscalia Especial de la Mujer, poniendo en conocimiento el acto de agresión que el día 21 de abril del presente año fue objeto la diputada MARÌA MARGARITA ZELAYA, quien presentó declaraciones en los diferentes medios de comunicación señalando como responsable de la agresión al actual Presidente del Congreso Nacional Roberto Micheletti Baing.


Nos causa preocupación la agresión sistemática a la dignidad humana en perjuicio de la mujer como resultado de las relaciones desiguales que históricamente ser han impuesto entre mujeres y hombres, tal como lo cita la Convención Interamericana para Prevenir, Sancionar y Erradicar la Violencia contra la Mujer, que legitimizan o exacerban la violencia contra la mujer.


Honduras es un país suscriptor de la Convención Interamericana para Prevenir Sancionar y Erradicar la violencia contra la Mujer, tratado que en su articulo 3 manifiesta “toda mujer tiene derecho a una vida libre de violencia tanto en el ámbito público como privado” igual reconoce el goce, ejercicio y protección de todos los derechos humanos para las mujeres.


Así mismo Honduras en los últimos años han muerto más de 400 mujeres lo que ha reflejado una clara agresión a los derechos humanos, creemos necesario, urgente y sobre todo justo, que se investiguen estos femicidios y que a la vez se castigue a los autores intelectuales y materiales de estas agresiones y muertes violentas cometidas contra las féminas.


Instamos al Ministerio Publico a proceder, de inmediato, iniciar la investigación de este hecho y de otros más que han ocurrido en el honorable Congreso Nacional y de lo resulte proceder en el marco de la ley para que estos hechos no se repitan jamás en la historia de Honduras.


Yolanda Sierra
Departamento de Comunicación
CODEH


http://www.codeh.hn/marg_zelaya.html

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One obvious question: Is Maria Margarita Zelaya related to President Mel Zelaya?

Is this a correct reading of the Spanish--that she criticized Mitcheletti and was subjected to anti-woman hate speech or hate crimes because she criticized him?

What was the nature of the attack on her? Who made the attack? (It sounds very serious, because CODEH is asking for prosecution.)

Is she okay? And what has become of her in the present situation?

Sounds like there was an atmosphere of intimidation and threats way back in April (if I've read this correctly), with the threats or attacks having typical rightwing low-mindedness (for instance, sexism).

I, too, am struck by the fact that the CODEH web site has not been updated since May. What has become of Andrés Pavón Murillo
Presidente ejecutivo del CODEH, who predicted this coup?

Also, the nature of the threatened coup that he describes sounds like a plot of private terrorists, not directly by the Honduran military and Micheletti & co. (the "ten families" and their corpo/fascist sponsors). I wonder if there was some preliminary plotting or "false flag" operation--i.e., a plot to assassinate President Zelaya and blame it on "terrorists" (unknown death squadders)--back in May, with the plot getting changed by June, into merely exiling Zelaya (a la Haiti and Aristide) perpetrated by the "powers that be" in cahoots with whoever their US advisors were (McCain, Negroponte, Reich, Bushwhack moles in the Pentagon, etc.?)

I do have the feeling--and have had it all along--that Obama/Clinton had very little control over the situation at first, that this plot was designed by Bushwhacks to sabotage Obama's stated policy of peace, respect and cooperation in Latin America, and that, while Clinton may not be innocent of collusion, and has been trying to steer events so that the corpo/fascists remain in control in Honduras, the coup was not her idea, and she and Obama have had trouble controlling the Bushwhacks who remain in power in many places--Pentagon, State, CIA. Also, it is an interesting fact that, had Obama/Clinton officially declared this a military coup, this would have triggered a provision of the law that automatically sends the matter to Congress, which has to vote in agreement on an official sanctions policy--and the fascists that Diebold & co. have installed in Congress are giving them all kinds of grief already, including holding up all their appointments in Latin America. They may not have won such a vote! Then where would they be? Not declaring it a military coup may have been a clever move to avoid a head-on fight with the likes of 'Senator' Jim DeMint in a venue--the US Congress--that has been stacked with fascist obstructionists. I have no illusions about Clinton--nor about what Obama had to agree to, not to be Diebolded in 2008--but I think it's possible that they stopped Plot #1--the "terrorist" assassination--but couldn't (or didn't want to?) stop Plot #2 (exile). (It's notable that the US embassy in Honduras knew of the coup ahead of time, yet no order was given to the US commanders at the US military base in Soto Cano, Honduras, to hold the plane carrying the kidnapped President Zelaya when it stopped at the US base for re-fueling. The US military works very closely with the Honduran military at that base. So it is either gross malfeasance by the US commanders at that base--that they didn't know what was going on (??!!)--or collusion, and who gave that order (to stand down) is unknown.)
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:54 AM
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18. Quick reading indicates this refers to violence against women in general


MARÌA MARGARITA ZELAYA was apparently the victim of an attack, but it does not say where it occurred.

Regarding Micheleti, it appears to be a "the buck stops there" type accusation.

Will be back later to try to find out is she is related to Mel and more about the issue.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:55 PM
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21. Horrendous, isn't it? Thank you for the rabsgoogle! n/t
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:02 AM
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25. It turns out that Micheletti DID verbally abuse her



see the "Root cause of the golpe against Zelaya ?" thread I posted earlier. The abuse she suffered was not well explained and the incident was buried in a general report of abuse against all Honduran women.

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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:45 AM
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17. With all respect to Google, here is rabsGoogle of the two main graphs

Looks like Pavon at the time revealed that the oligarchs were pissed off that Zelaya was calling for more citizen participation (the cuarta urna?) in the government. The "terrorists" he mentions could be mercenaries hired by the oligarchs.
Have to go out but will completely check out this website later tonight.

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The Prosecutor Against Organized Crime yesterday called Andrés Pavón, the president of the Committee for the Defense of Human Rights in Honduras (CODEH), to confirm his accusation that there could be a plan to capture President Manuel Zelaya Rosales because he is promoting citizen participation, but the activist (Pavon) said he would not heed the call.

According to Pavon, the plan indicated that the president would be taken prisoner by a clandestine group of terrorists, once the courts file formal legal charges against him.

La Fiscalía Contra el Crimen Organizado citó ayer al presidente del Comité para la Defensa de los Derechos Humanos en Honduras (CODEH), Andrés Pavón, para que confirme la denuncia de que habría un plan para capturar al presidente Manuel Zelaya Rosales porque está promoviendo la participación ciudadana, pero el activista indicó que no atenderá el llamamiento.

Según Pavón, el plan establece que el mandatario sería apresado por un grupo clandestino de terroristas, una vez que en los tribunales le formalicen acciones judiciales en su contra.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:43 AM
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11. In Honduras, Defending Human Rights Is a Dangerous Occupation (2006)
Since 1995, the Center for the Prevention, Rehabilitation and Treatment of Victims of Torture (CPTRT) has an been an outspoken advocate for human rights in Honduras ... On Oct. 26, 2004, intruders broke into the office of CPTRT. Staff arriving at work the next day found documents destroyed, money and office equipment stolen, and threatening messages written on the walls. Books in Almendares’ office were arranged on the floor in the form of a cross, a symbolic death threat. The CPTRT office had been raided before, in May and December 2003, and in October and November 2005 ...

Members of the Committee of Relatives of the Detained-Disappeared in Honduras (COFADEH), which works to bring justice for Hondurans who were disappeared in the 1980s and ‘90s, have repeatedly received death threats, at times from callers claiming to be former members of Battalion 3-16, the most notorious military death squad in Honduras in the 1980s. In 1999, the sister of COFADEH Coordinator Bertha Oliva was kidnapped and threatened for two hours, then robbed and left on the street. In fall 2003, Oliva received a series of threatening phone calls, including one warning that her nine-year-old daughter would be killed ...

Staff of the Committee for the Defense of Human Rights in Honduras (CODEH), another independent human rights organization, also have been subjected to attacks and intimidation since they began advocating for the detained and disappeared in the early ‘80s. In 1996, two clinics owned by Dr. Ramón Custodio, then CODEH president, were bombed, and in 1998, CODEH Regional Coordinator Ernesto Sandoval Bustillo was fatally shot in front of his office in the western province of Copán. Attackers raided the home of CODEH President Andrés Pavón Murillo in December 2003, and in May 2004, Pavón received several threatening phone calls and was under surveillance by unidentified men.

Members of the office of the National Commissioner for Human Rights have been targets of intimidation since the creation of the government office in 1992. Leo Valladares Lanza, who was commissioner until March 2002, was targeted numerous times in apparent response to his speaking out against government corruption. In January 2002, Valladares and his deputy commissioner, Sonia Marlina Dubón, both received anonymous telephone death threats, which were thought to be linked to the commissioner’s investigations into official corruption. Shortly before the threats were made, Valladares also had released a report criticizing the control that government and economic interests have over the media ...

http://www.mayispeakfreely.org/index.php?gSec=doc&doc_id=123
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:49 PM
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20. Your article is tremendously important. It details some of the corporate, political killings
which have returned to Honduras with a vengeance, just like then 1980's there, and worse, according to citizens. From the article:
In April 2000, Julio César Pineda Alvarado, news director for Radio Progresso in San Pedro Sula, was shot at point-blank range. Pineda had been critical of police involvement and complicity in extrajudicial killings. Pineda survived, but he and his family were subsequently subject to further death threats and harassment. In November 2003, journalist Germán Antonio Rivas, the owner of a television news station, was shot and killed outside the station just before he was to present the evening news. In his news reports, Rivas had criticized a mining company responsible for leaking cyanide into the local water supply of Santa Rosa de Copán, which led to a government fine against the company. He had suffered an earlier attempt on his life in February 2003.

In May 2004, Jhonny Lagos, a former journalist for the mainstream Honduran newspaper El Heraldo who had been censored repeatedly for writing about corruption, published the first edition of his independent monthly El Libertador. After publishing the first edition of the newspaper, he received several threatening phone calls, and a former colleague warned, “Jhonny, you are very young to die.” The threatening calls returned in November 2004, and Lagos was under surveillance by unidentified men in a truck suspiciously similar to official Honduran security force vehicles.

Lagos said he believes he is being persecuted “for creating a space to express ideas freely, something Honduras does not yet have.” According to the 2004 State Department report on human rights, most of the Honduran news media is owned by a “small number of powerful business magnates with intersecting business interests, political loyalties and family ties.”

Deforestation due to illegal logging and dam construction is a major issue in Honduras, and advocates for the environment have met with harsh reactions from those involved in forest destruction. In 2001, a local environmentalist in El Ocotal, Olancho, Carlos Roberto Flores, was killed after opposing the construction of a hydroelectric dam in the area, reportedly by security guards working for Energisa, the company building the dam.

More......
It'so worth reading and bookmarking.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:43 PM
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22. Good site, I will open a tab and check it regularly.
Thank you.
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