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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:18 AM
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Peru arrests 2 carrying $150,000 over Ecuador border
Peru arrests 2 carrying $150,000 over Ecuador border
Venezuelan link?

By Andrew Whalen | The Associated Press
March 18, 2008

Lima, Peru - Authorities arrested two Peruvians on Monday as they tried to enter the country from Ecuador carrying some $150,000 in cash, and a top official said they are linked to groups that may be funded by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's government.

"This morning police captured two individuals, one carrying $50,000 and the other $100,000,'' President Alan Garcia's Cabinet chief, Jorge del Castillo, said in a meeting with foreign journalists. ``Where did they get it?''

A congressional investigation concluded last week that Venezuela likely funds Peruvian leftist groups, including organizations backing a trade bloc promoted by Chavez as an alternative to U.S.-sponsored trade initiatives. A Venezuelan official denied the report's conclusions.

A Venezuelan link is also suspected in the case of Roque Gonzalez, a former high-ranking member of the Cuban-inspired Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement, or MRTA, who was arrested Feb. 29 and is charged with forming part of an international terrorist group.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/cuba/sfl-0318peru,0,2512224.story?track=rss
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:40 PM
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1. Ordinarily, you'd think the professional way to treat this story would be DON'T RUN THE STORY
UNTIL YOU KNOW THE FACTS!

But then you'd be giving the truth an even chance, right?

We know that's not going to happen, as long as there's a piece of crap right-wing controlled corporate media outlet anywhere.

They should be handed a snowstorm of LTTE'S telling them to just let us know when you know what you're talking about, why not!

I suspect Peru's President Alan Garcia of ugly displays of social ugliness never seen before on the planet, AND I'VE GOT EVIDENCE.



Aw, c'mon, he's just playing around. Or does he think he's actually entertaining "the little people?"
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:57 PM
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2. That may not look right to someone who just looked at this thread.
I'm referring to the newspeople carrying this trash story, not to sfexpat2000's sharing the fact that this is their latest clown stunt!
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:20 PM
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3. Chavez endorsed Garcia's opponent, eulogized the FARC leaders
and has attempted to influence elections far and wide in latin america. of course he condemns "interference" from the US but apparently doesn't see his interference the same way.

the funding of political operatives friendly to Chavez, from the ARgentina suitcase, FARC, Peru etecetera is no surprise.

not sure why its important for you to attempt to denounce these stories as hoaxes, you are going to support him anyway.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:14 PM
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5. You're confused if you imagine you have shown any evidence for these stupid propaganda stunts.
It's not as if this hasn't been going on since the 1800's, with the bogus stories about the bombing of the Maine in Havana Harbor.

You are attempting to screw with people who have been keeping track of filthy right-wing efforts at destabilization.

Go ahead and provide that proof which implicates Hugo Chavez in the two money accusations. Just post it and we'll read it.

To refresh your memory on a story most adults know very well:
Published on Sunday, May 8, 2005 by the Columbus Free Press (Columbus, Ohio)
Four Bloody Lies of War, from Havana 1898 to Baghdad 2003
by Harvey Wasserman

The Bush Administration's lies about its rationales for attacking Iraq fit a pattern of deceit that has dragged America into at least three other unjust and catastrophic wars.

The "smoking gun" documents that emerged in the recent British election confirm the administration had decided to go to war and then sought "intelligence" to sell it.

But conscious, manipulative lies were also at the root of American attacks on Cuba in 1898, US intervention into World War I in 1917 and in Vietnam. These lies are as proven and irrefutable as the unconscionable deception that dragged the US into Iraq in 2003.

In each case, these lies of war have caused horrific human slaughter, the destruction of human rights and liberties, and financial disaster.

In Cuba, the 1898 sinking of the battleship Maine brought the US into war with Spain. The people of Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines were in revolt against the crumbling Spanish empire. Media baron William Randolph Hearst, the era's Rupert Murdoch, wanted a war to sell papers and promote "jingo" power. He portrayed the Spaniards barbaric rapists and worse. In the name of democracy and freedom, Hearst and pro-war fanatics like Theodore Roosevelt demanded US intervention.

Republican President William McKinley, personal hero of today's White House dirty trickster Karl Rove, dutifully sent the battleship Maine into Havana harbor. Suddenly, it blew up, killing some 250 American sailors.

Spain was blamed, and Hearst got his war. Having just conquered and annexed what had been the sovereign monarchy of Hawaii, the Americans now annexed Puerto Rico and installed colonial regimes in Cuba and the Philippines.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0508-20.htm
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:33 PM
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6. wow, quite the chain of relavent events there
the Spanish American war, WWI (US intervention????????? what, you supported Germany??), Vietnam, and Iraq.

the Spanish war resulted in the independence of Cuba and the Phillipines. PR remains a US territory and for the forseeable future will remain that way.

now this relates to Chavez funding political parties in Argentina, Colombia, and Peru how????
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:40 PM
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14. Huh? The Philippine-American War followed the Philippines 1898 declaration of independence
``White Man's'' Forgotten War
One hundred years ago, a bloody but little-remembered war began between the United States and the Philippines, costing hundreds of thousands of lives

On .. Feb. 4, 1899, American sentries .. opened fire on Filipino soldiers walking near .. the San Juan River ...

On June 12, 1898, Aguinaldo proclaimed Philippine independence ... Several weeks before .. on May 1, 1898 .. Dewey .. entered Manila Bay and destroyed the Spanish fleet. U.S. troops began arriving in Manila in August. And in December, Spain .. signed a peace treaty .. under which the Philippines was ceded to the Americans ...

Overwhelmed by superior American firepower, the Filipinos shifted to guerrilla warfare ... Villages were .. burned. Non-combatant civilians were .. killed ...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/01/31/SC16131.DTL

The Philippine-American War was "officially" over in 1902 but military engagements continued until about 1913. The pure colonial era lasted until 1935, when the US granted the territory commonwealth status with a promise of independence in 1946 ...

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:20 PM
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15. what? I referring to the result of the Spanish American war
in which the US took possession of the Spanish colonies Cuba, Phillipines, and PR. of course Philiipino and Cuban independence was gained. I am not going to argue with you on the signficance of the Phillipino "resistance" or just to argue with you.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:46 PM
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16. Phil. declared ind. 1898. US began reconquest 1899. US granted ind. 1946.
Res ipsa loquitur
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:14 PM
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4. I think drug lords have a new way to cover their operations
when they get caught just say Chavez or any other "unfriendly" leader.

That story reminds me this:
Mexico meth raid yields $205 million in U.S. cash
March 17, 2007
MEXICO CITY -- Authorities confiscated more than $200 million in U.S. currency from methamphetamine producers in one of this city's ritziest neighborhoods, they said Friday, calling it the largest drug cash seizure in history.

The seizure reflected the vast scope of an illegal drug trade linking Asia, Mexico and the United States, officials said. Two of the seven people arrested Thursday at a faux Mediterranean villa in the Lomas de Chapultepec neighborhood were Chinese nationals.

The group was part of a larger drug-trafficking organization that imports "precursor chemicals" from companies in India and China for processing into methamphetamine in Mexican "super labs," authorities said. The methamphetamine is eventually sold in the United States.

The raid resulted from an investigation that began in December, when authorities seized 19 tons of pseudoephedrine, a cold medicine that is a key ingredient in the production of methamphetamine, at a Mexican port on the Pacific Coast.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-fg-meth17mar17,0,3877797.story?page=1


Zhenli Ye Gon the principal suspect fleet Mexico to the US where he is in custody. The US denied to extradite him to Mexico
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/490900.html
http://www.milenio.com/index.php/2008/03/18/210725/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:58 AM
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7. Oh, I know, Judi! I mostly posted it to keep track of the stories
being spread around that seem to say that Chavez is funding rebel all over the place.

The lack of actual evidence doesn't seem to bother the press. :crazy:
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:12 AM
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8. Good For The Peruvian Cops
Good for the Peruvian cops, whatever the story. People who try to sneak that much money in cash usually aren't up to much good.

I have no more sympathy for Hugo Chavez's efforts to meddle in Peruvian politics than I do for the thugs from the Mexican drug cartel who've already assassinated one Peruvian judge. Those two dudes deserve what they get.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:20 AM
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10. tell me about the Colombian Cartels if they had anything to do with Iran-Contras
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:51 AM
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13. If They Did, Then...
If the Colombian cartels had had anything to do with the Iran-Contra scandals and some of the old dirt resurfaces, then there'll be a two-fer and both Hugo Chavez AND the senile elephant party will get it in the chops.

:evilgrin:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:19 AM
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9. What IS it that article is really SAYING? Two PERUVIANS entered from ECUADOR,
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 11:24 AM by Judi Lynn
carrying money. A Peruvian congressional investigation concluded it's LIKELY Venezuela funds Peruvian leftists?
He said the government suspects Venezuela of providing ``under the table'' funding, but stopped short of accusing Chavez outright.???????
Peru has been having trouble with "leftists" for decades, long before the people of Venezuela elected their President. Peru has been slaughtering its leftists for decades, including cold blooded murders of leftists by Alan Garcia in his earlier term as President, and a recent attack on protesters.

As has been expressed recently, Garcia is going to have to take these obnoxious blame shifting accusations and shove them in his pocket. He's knee deep in leftists' blood, and his country has been involved in violent struggles against the poor indigenous majority from the earliest days after the invasion of that country by slimey maggots from Europe.

Go over the facts again, to be able to marvel at the right-wing assholes who are holding this story aloft as if it were a war trophy:

2 guys from Peru were caught coming back into Peru from Ecuador carrying $150,000. Rabid, idiot right-wingers believe they can pin this on Hugo Chavez. Yeah, right.

On edit, to refresh the memories of clueless freeper clowns, please check the NORTHWEST side of South America to find Ecuador. Then look south. Hey, where's Venezuela?

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:06 PM
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11. do you know of Sendero Luminoso???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path

do you not think it is possible to travel from Venezuela to Peru overland? or (not to mention that the money $150,000 couldn't have originated from sources in Ecuador anyway. its not that much.) perhaps a wire transfer from Venezuela to Ecuador. you've heard of that haven't you? and if not, who is to blame for not using some of the more modern methods of transferring funds? only these idiots and their supporters.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:19 PM
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12. Where is your proof the money coming across the border from ECUADOR,
in the possession of Peruvians, was actually coming from Venezuela?

What are the odds Peruvians would carry a ton of money across Colombia from Venezuela, but more than that, WHERE IS ANY PROOF THEY ACTUALLY GOT IT FROM VENEZUELA?

Oh, well. Forget it. I'll just buy what the right-wing assholes are spinning. That's always dependable.
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