Heard this on NPR this morning. The Jim Wallis segment is on the second half of the show. Well worth the listen, especially for the DU LatAm aficionados.
Travel with Rick Steves
http://www.ricksteves.com/radio/archive.htm#recent Also, this web extra on the Travel with Rick Steves website....
Web Extra: Jim Wallis explains to Rick the work he was doing with Congress in early December 2010, when we recorded this interview, to promote the "Dream Act" (which stands for "Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors"). It had passed the House, but was blocked from further consideration a few days later by a Senate filibuster. They also compare notes on what they've each observed in societies with few material possessions. (runs 4:52)
http://www.ricksteves.com/radio/streaming/pgm243_extra.asx
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