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Mon Jan-18-10 11:09 PM
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John Stewart Just nailed it |
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OMG it was phenomenal he smacked down the Democrats for their insanity
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:11 PM
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1. Democrats in MA changing the rules cuz they didnt want Romney nominating a Repuke to replace Kerry? |
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Cuz Kerry definitely won the presidency.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:11 PM
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2. Totally smacked that one out of the park. |
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Leave it to Jon to speak the truth. ... Not just about the Dems but about the stupid media narrative. Bravo!
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:12 PM
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3. Absolutely BRILLIANT!!! |
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The best political analysis of the current situation in years!!!!
Anyone who has not seen this..MUST make sure to catch the rerun or the later broadcast in their time zone!!!
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:24 PM
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13. and will be on HULU tomorrow. |
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Tue Jan-19-10 01:00 PM
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:13 PM
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the democrats have a larger majority than the republicans since 1928. and more than GWB did whatever the fuck he wanted
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:15 PM
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Blame on the Dems and credit to the fucking thuggish Repug cabal who have marched lock-step in absolute opposition to anything Obama/the Dems want. Hell, it's worked.
Can I laugh, cry, and be pissed off all at the same time?
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:15 PM
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6. I Posted Pretty Much The Same Thing |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:29 PM
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17. Yup. It's ridiculous how ineffectual we are with the biggest majority we've ever had. |
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How many seats do they expect us to get for them so they can do their jobs?
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:43 PM
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28. it's not the biggest majority we've ever had |
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we had bigger ones in 1964 and 1936
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:46 PM
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31. Guess Stewart's fact checkers were off. He said it was the biggest majority for Dems since 1928 |
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Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 11:50 PM by BrklynLiberal
1964 Congress: The 88th Congress had:
Senate--
100 members: 63 (Democrats)- 37(Republicans)
House of Rep--
435 members: 259(Democrats)-176 (Republicans)
For a total of --322 Democrats out of 535 members
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:48 PM
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he said that we had a bigger majority than the GOP did since 1928
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:57 PM
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39. Maybe that IS how he worded it... |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:55 PM
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:32 AM
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50. 60 seats is the most Democrats have held since the 95th Congress (1977-79), when we held 61. |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:20 PM
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I'm a "cheerleader" (as much as anyone) and thought it was hilarious...and dead on.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:22 PM
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10. (Paraphrasing) that apparently the bar was set too high for the Democrats |
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so we should leave it on the ground so they can just trip over it. - Among other many other things the pep squad won't like.
Stewart was absolutely brilliant tonight.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:23 PM
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12. maybe we should burry it |
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so they can fall down over the hole
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:28 PM
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16. Um...That's a snarky condemnation of the party as a whole. |
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It's not about a "pep squad" on the one hand or the "serial whiners" on the other. It's the Party. You are a Democrat, right?
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:39 PM
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:45 PM
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Weird. You seem to be relishing in the idea that the Dems might have a few challenges to iron out. Hmmm...
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:46 PM
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32. I was on the front lines |
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worked with the SEIU this summer in Indiana to pressure congressfolks to support HR 3200. Worked on various campaigns in Illinois from county Clerk to Congressional to Gubernatorial
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:49 PM
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34. Actually, I prefer to think of myself as a DFLer |
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Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 11:50 PM by dflprincess
because I do lean more toward the Farmer-Labor side. I've been active for 38 years and stuck with the party through thick and thin, but the insurance bill is pretty much the last straw for me and I'm not going to vote for any jerk who puts a "D" or "DFL" after his/her name.
Think of it as tough love, we don't do the party any good when we let it think that we're happy with every stupid move "our" elected officials or the party leadership make.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:51 PM
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36. I'm a huge fan of the DFl |
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a guy i once dated did some recount work for Franken
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:53 PM
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37. But tough love broadcast on a popular television show... |
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.... watched by Democrats/Republicans and independents, the day before a major election?
... i'm having a hard time seeing the positive in that.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:58 PM
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41. i think tough love in one of our most dire times |
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is warranted. He said basically anyone should be able to Brown cause well he has a truck and freeballs it lol
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:00 AM
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42. But it couldn't have waited until we officially lost? NT |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:34 PM
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20. Talking out of your ass again? |
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I gave it a rec, and I'm one of those "cheerleaders."
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:35 PM
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23. posted in wrong place.. |
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Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 11:35 PM by NYC_SKP
doh.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:36 PM
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24. "cheerleaders" is kind of a Freeper term, we'd prefer you don't use it. |
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Tue Jan-19-10 01:26 AM
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:20 PM
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:22 PM
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he was spot on, on his critique of how we've bungled the health care situation
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:13 PM
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58. Here come the reinforcements! nt |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:25 PM
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14. all democrats? some democrats? who did he smack down? n/t |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:27 PM
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15. damn near the entire party |
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for constantly bungling things, getting a candidate as shitty as coakley and scurrying to get support in fucking Massachusetts. I wish i had the link to it it was amazing.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:30 PM
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19. What did he say the republicans were playing |
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while the democrats were in the nurse's office after gluing their balls to their thighs??
He was great! I'm going to try to stay up and catch the rerun!
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:41 PM
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the Republicans were playing chess while the Democrats were gluing their balls to their thighs.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:44 PM
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29. "The Democrats were not playing checkers while the repukes were playing |
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chess, the repukes were playing checkers while the dems were in the nurses office cause they glued their balls to their thighs again."
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:30 PM
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18. Screw Stewart, it is easy to seat in a chair and do nothing than criticize others efforts. |
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Why don't he get off his ass and do something for the party instead of always putting it down?
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:34 PM
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21. i think you missed the point of his rant |
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it's that the democrats have set the bar so low for themselves and we've still rogered the boogley on it. this should have been a slam dunk for us. and we should demand more out of the party, we need more out of the party
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:49 PM
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35. He also ranted about how the media narrative about Obama and the Dems is all fucked up. |
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Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 11:51 PM by jefferson_dem
That the MA Senate race is just one contest and doesn't signal the downfall of anything (if, heaven forbit, Bozo Brown wins). That the Repugs are still the out-party and it's time for the Dems to lead, not drift.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:34 PM
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:06 AM
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Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 12:08 AM by politicasista
misunderstood.
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:08 AM
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:09 AM
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Cause didn't know if you agreed with Stewart or disagreeing with the poster calling people "cheerleaders" or anyone criticizing what Stewart said. :shrug:
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:10 AM
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46. I disagree with the cheerleaders Poster and the one saying screw Stewart |
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:14 AM
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:57 PM
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40. Do you feel that way when he sits in his chair and slams the Teabaggers? |
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Or when he'd go after Bushco?
It's his job is to point out the absurdities on both sides.
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Tue Jan-19-10 02:25 AM
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52. He is doing something for the party |
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in his own way. He is widely watched.
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Tue Jan-19-10 05:20 AM
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54. How quickly we for get how he was the lone voice in the dark for so long |
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:42 PM
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27. so he nailed it. how is this information useful to me? |
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:17 AM
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48. It was painful. I hate it when he can't find a joke in something. |
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A very valuable segment. Just too truthful.
Oh well. And here I was just on a forum making a laugh out of something- Sarah Palin/Humanzee 2012. The scary thing is, it COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. A humanzee for a vp. Oh my god. What have we become. And by we I men all of the morans that can't take politics seriously.
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Tue Jan-19-10 05:10 AM
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53. I love JS, but this is poorly timed |
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He could have wait another couple of days and not do it BEFORE the election.
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Tue Jan-19-10 06:47 AM
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maybe it makes for good TV, but it's not accurate and I'm sure the Rs were pleased with his little monologue.
It's the Democrats' fault that the republicans filibuster everything as a matter of course for partisan political gain?
The filibuster used to be an extraordinary measure used sparingly, not a mundane tool to politically embarrass and frustrate the party in power. Don't believe me? Did you know the margin used to be 67 votes for cloture from 1917 to 1975, and before that, NO cloture! Can you imagine if the opposition party did then what the republicans are doing today? Government would have been utterly powerless. But no, the opposition party had more integrity, they governed in good faith and not with the sole goal of derailing the party in power with the hope of benefiting.
The Republicans are conducting shameful and unprecedented obstruction, and somehow that becomes the Democrats' fault.
And the 10 reasons Bush did whatever the fuck he wanted were:
(1) he has an ideologically narrow party (2) the Democrats did not filibuster as a matter of course (3 - 10) 9/11. 9/11 did wonders for Bush's presidential power. It made the country unify behind its government, it squashed media criticism of the president, it invoked such a fear in the nation that we would tolerate almost anything to feel safe no matter how legally and ethically questionable.
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Tue Jan-19-10 01:23 PM
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60. Why didn't the Democrats filibuster? |
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Because they might have had to take a stand on something or because too many of them agreed with Bush? The option was open to them and they could have stopped some bad legislation by using it.
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Tue Jan-19-10 06:17 PM
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64. yes too many of them agreed with bush |
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they're called Blue Dogs and they are mostly from the right wing south.
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Tue Jan-19-10 03:23 PM
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62. politics vs. governing |
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the Republicans are good at politics which makes the dems scared to govern.
politics equals false equivalencies, i.e. 'partial birth abortion' 'welfare queens' 'hate america first'
The republicans have people believing that the dems are weaker on national security by asserting that America isn't strong enough to try suspected terrorists in our court system & that we aren't capable of keeping communities safe if we move Guantanamo prisoners to the states. Does that sound like the 'tough' party? No, because they aren't the tough party, but they have controlled perception and the narrative. Remember George "AWOL" Bush & Dick '5 deferment' Cheney getting a pass & John 'purple heart/war hero' Kerry's strength was questioned. Even Obama didn't do politics better than the republicans. He didn't employ 3a.m. phone call ads. He won because people were tired of politics as usual & McCain sucked. Well politics as usual are back & the dems aren't very good at it.
So I would say the number one reason Dubya did whatever he wanted was because the democrats were scared of the political cost of opposing him (remember keeping our powder dry?).
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Tue Jan-19-10 07:56 AM
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56. John Stewart is useless |
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I don't care what he thinks any more than I care what Rush Limbaugh thinks. These people are entertainers, using this serious stuff for entertainment purposes and to make themselves famous. They are all pond scum and all making money from the big corporations progressives are always blaming.
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:00 AM
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Rush Limbaugh tells it like it isn't.
John Stewart tells it like it is.
IMO Rush isn't even close to being within 500 feet of John's league.
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Tue Jan-19-10 05:01 PM
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63. If you think Stewart is useless then you missed the last decade or so |
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Who was speaking the truth for all those years in the mainstream?
Thats just fickle.
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Tue Jan-19-10 01:24 PM
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61. He usually does...sometimes however, the truth hurts. |
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But the truth needs to be told, no matter how painful.
I love Stewart...he has more integrity than most all other "journalists" combined - save a precious few.
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Tue Jan-19-10 06:21 PM
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65. Hmm... Jon's wrong on this. LBJ had the biggest majority in BOTH houses! |
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Who did his fact checking?
Otherwise, good job!
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