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Sat Feb-06-10 12:01 AM
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ABC: WH preparing for TWO Supreme Court Vacancies |
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ABC: WH preparing for TWO Supreme Court VacanciesIn what would be an interesting turn of events, the WH is preparing for two Supreme Court vacancies. Court watchers think that Ginsburg and Stevens will both announce their retirements in the summer before the midterms.
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:08 AM
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1. and as far as that is concerned, that is why it is imperitive that we have a Democratic President |
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:12 AM
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2. Of course, it would be nice if we weren't the minority party in Congress... |
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:12 AM
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3. The media counts for at least an additional 20 senators on the GOP side..... |
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Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 12:13 AM by FrenchieCat
at the very least!
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:25 AM
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5. Oh geez....that's so true... |
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...and such a disappointment. We'll never be able to overcome that mean Republican minority. They're just too mean. And scary.
We all know that legislation never passes when we're scared.
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:12 AM
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4. Stevens had been holding back |
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but seems to have been impressed with the appointment of Sotomayor.
Trusts the Pres to well replace him.
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:33 AM
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6. I do trust Obama to appoint a reasonable candidate to each seat. |
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That is one good thing I can say about him.
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:43 AM
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7. he needs to go younger next time |
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Sat Feb-06-10 01:38 AM
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10. I agree Bush put people in that will be there forever it |
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seems like. Also healthy people. I like who Obama picked but she has diabetes and as she gets older it could get worse.
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:20 PM
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31. most SCOTUS nominees are approved........unless there is something really |
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flagrant or radical in their pasts.
THIS MAKES ME SOOO HAPPY!!
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:44 AM
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8. I don't trust our Numb nuts Senate to confirm a reasonable candidate |
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Sat Feb-06-10 11:45 AM
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19. Isn't the Senate confirmation of SC justices just a straight majority? |
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Or are you thinking they'll put a hold on new justices, just like they have with all of Obama's cabinet appointments?
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Sat Feb-06-10 11:39 PM
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33. I think they can filibuster them too |
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Sun Feb-07-10 11:12 AM
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37. It is time to end the filibuster. I know we needed it a few times with * in WH |
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but it is obstructionist more than it helps.
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Sat Feb-06-10 01:15 AM
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9. They better not wait that long. The wingnuts will squash any chance of filling their seats |
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Sat Feb-06-10 01:41 AM
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Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 01:43 AM by AllentownJake
Actually this can play one of two ways, if the GOP acts like total clowns, which I highly suspect they will, it might be enough to get the base off their ass and vote in 2010.
It will be after the GOP primaries so the need to posture too much to the right, won't be as necessary and fund raising mailings on two new extremist judges (qualified progressive judges who are less ideological than any of the 4 on the right) would better suit their needs, however they aren't that bright.
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Sat Feb-06-10 02:01 AM
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12. Damn I was hoping one of them would be that asshole Scalia |
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He's the one I have the most distain for next to Roberts and Thomas.
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Sat Feb-06-10 09:32 AM
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13. What we need is some idea on Scalia's health. |
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He will be 74 next month. Actuarial tables give him 10.84 years left to live. He has a probability of .039188 chance of dying within one year.
There are two options. Both of which we should strive hard to accomplish.
A) With Obama re-elected in 2012 the Republican Party needs to be severely fractured with elected Republicans completely hopeless about their future. That also includes electing better Democrats and putting the screws to Democrats that are useless. Scalia will then feel no need to hold on til after 2016.
B) We need to have a backup in case a Scalia vacancy doesn't occur in that time period. That requires having a Democrat elected in 2016. It would be helpful if the Republicans are not recovering and they have continued to be idiots. I don't foresee Biden as the nominee and possibly not the VP in Obama's second term. Maybe there will be more input on Obama's VP in his re-election with the expectation that the nominee will be the President. Whoever it is needs to be highly qualified to win re-election. If Scalia hasn't retired by before the end of Obama's 2nd term another highly qualified Democrat should dishearten Scalia enough to retire or die.
The vast majority of Supreme Court Justices retire. The last Justice to die in office before Rehnquist was Robert H Jackson in 1954.
Another option is to have Scalia prescribed high dosages of Placidyl as was prescribed for Rehnquist.
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Sat Feb-06-10 06:33 PM
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24. Meh, I thought he was older then that |
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I'm disappointed. If Obama got reelected (and I'm using if) he'd have another 7 years. I guess that would give us a good chance to replace him if he has 11 years or so to live (and then again, he could surprise us and live longer). I think he'd try to hold out if Obama was reelected until 2016 to see if a Pube was a elected though. So I think you are right, we'd have to find a good candidate and keep the White House beyond 2016.
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Sat Feb-06-10 11:47 PM
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34. We desperately need to get rid of one of the gang of five. Any one will do... nt |
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Sun Feb-07-10 01:38 AM
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But Scalia and Thomas are probably the most likely suspects since they are older. Kennedy can swing liberal on some of the votes. It's just too bad he didn't on a quite a few large ones.
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Sat Feb-06-10 09:43 AM
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14. I will die a little if we end up putting one dem / one gop on the court |
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just to get by the gop minority..
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Sat Feb-06-10 10:39 AM
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16. There will be two GOP judges. Reid and his weaklings will accomodate the GOP-they certainly |
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don't want to anger their "friends".
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:15 PM
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29. Like they did with Sotomayor? That fascist Latina! |
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Sat Feb-06-10 11:35 AM
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17. I just hope Obama doesn't buy into the "bipartisan" bullshit narrative on this one |
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Stevens was a Republican (Ford) appointee, as crazy as that seems now. The Repukes will insist he's replaced by another Republican.
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Sat Feb-06-10 10:35 AM
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15. That looks like two more permanent filibusters on judges. No way they will approved. nt |
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Sat Feb-06-10 11:37 AM
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18. I'm sure in the interest of bi-partisanship the President will nominate two "moderates". |
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Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 11:37 AM by GrantDem
I sincerely hope I am wrong...
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Sat Feb-06-10 12:39 PM
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21. We will not get a counter weight to the Fascists. But I hope I am wrong as well. |
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:09 PM
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25. Right. Because the last justice he nominated was a 'moderate'. |
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Some of you people have the shortest memory in history or are keen on revisionist history.
The fact Pres. Obama nominated a competent and fairly progressive justice not even a year ago suggests to me he won't do what you're accusing him of doing.
But go right ahead and make yourself look foolish. LOL
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Sat Feb-06-10 11:54 AM
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20. With the utmost respect to two of our best jurists, if they are going |
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to go, I hope they do so soon, before midterms. I wish both of them could stay for another 20 years, but trust that President Obama will nominate suitable replacements.
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Sat Feb-06-10 03:26 PM
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22. So---Have Arrangements Been Made For Immediate Bi-Partisan Input? |
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I mean, we Democrats surely wouldn't want to end up with a couple of new liberal justices, now would we? Better we should include the Republicans from the get-go, so that everything turns out hunky-dory.......
(Sarcasm alert, I guess.....)
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Sat Feb-06-10 03:30 PM
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23. The sad thing is that's probably not far from the truth. nt |
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:10 PM
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C'mon now. Do you not even recall the last Justice Obama nominated?
Yeesh.
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:10 PM
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27. Great choice with Sotomayer....he'll appoint two more |
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Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 07:11 PM by firedupdem
excellent libs. n/t
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Drunken Irishman
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:15 PM
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28. Nope. Sotomayor was obviously a bipartisan caving by the Obama administration. |
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I mean, that's what some DUers are telling me when they suggest Obama will sell out the Supreme Court for bipartisanship. Because, you know, he has a history doing just that. :eyes:
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:31 PM
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32. I'd love two more of her (but better). |
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I love that she is Latino,
but I hope the next two are a little younger and a little better health. Any sex, any race, any orientation, etc.... I just want them to serve for as long as possible and be liberal.
Sotomayer was a good choice. I just want the next 2 to be even better.
For what it's worth, I don't want Hillary, because I'd rather have someone in their late 40's or very early 50's. Nobody is ever guaranteed a life expectancy, but we know that the younger someone is, the more likely they will live 3 or 4 decades.
Roberts and Alito will be trolling the Supreme Court for at least 2 more decades I bet. We need to make sure we appoint people who can live even longer.
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Sat Feb-06-10 07:19 PM
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Stevens and Ginsburg announce their retirements the same week, forcing Obama to make two nominations in tandem.
Obama appoints either an Asian male and a black woman, or two women (one of whom will be Asian).
Both will be thoroughly-vetted progressives with some moderate leanings -- neither will have a blatant paper trail of controversial rulings/statements (unlike Alito or Sotomayor).
Both will be confirmed, after the GOP tries to filibuster only the more liberal nominee of the two -- and it backfires on the Senate Republican leadership badly.
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Sun Feb-07-10 10:07 AM
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36. Wow!! Somebody doesn't want you talk about this. nt |
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