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Mon Feb-08-10 12:33 PM
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Very, very good political move by President Obama. |
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Asking the pugs to join with him and the Dems on a televised health care forum/debate is a genius move.
It would be great to see real health care reform come of this.
Good move Obama!
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:36 PM
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1. But will the right murkans watch it? |
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Dancing With the Stars might conflict. Or a rerun on AMC of 'Cat Woman.'
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:37 PM
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4. I know, be we can hope. |
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We now know for sure our President can out debate the opposition, now let's see him do something with it.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:36 PM
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2. Very smart, I agree. That'll be some "must-see" TV for me! |
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:36 PM
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3. Cool...he's still playing chess. |
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:38 PM
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8. I know what you're saying. |
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And yeah, most of the time I feel that way, but I'm just kind of being hopeful on this one.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:37 PM
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5. Opps I missed that.. just now? It would be a great move.. |
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Their HC act, which they did nothing on during their terms.. looked to be as thin as their 2 page budget they tried to sell.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:39 PM
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9. Just reported on MSNBC- |
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the pug reaction has been cool so far.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:40 PM
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Mon Feb-08-10 05:52 PM
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32. I'll bet they'll pull a Garbo and *want to be alone* |
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The pukes don't want their beliefs televised - it would blow their cover.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:46 PM
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14. Only HCR they support is Tort reform. |
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:37 PM
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6. Except that the GOP will tell him to fuck off, and then... |
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the Dems will continue use their lack of cooperation as their excuse for passing a lame HCR bill. Or failing to pass HCR at all.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:37 PM
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7. The GOP are hesitant to do this because they have no |
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health insurance reform plans to bring to the table. They'll just go buy another 99 cent store notebook and bring that with them like the last Q&A.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:43 PM
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11. They have to go though. Otherwise Obama can still have the meeting |
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and say "Look, we invited the GOP and not only do they have no constructive HCR ideas, but they won't even discuss it".
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Mon Feb-08-10 01:01 PM
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20. He's playing them - that's for sure and I like the strategy |
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They are unprepared and will never be.
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Mon Feb-08-10 03:22 PM
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28. The way I look at it, if the Repub's were in control we would not ever |
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even be discussing HCR. They would be pimping the next war or tax cut, all day every day.
Making the debate be about HCR is rubbing there nose in it. Which I would be in favor of if I felt more confident they will eventually pass something. At this point I am not so sure. As we saw with the MA election many Dem's were ready to fold because of just one election swing.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:46 PM
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15. "99 cent store notebook" -- lol! Damn, you nailed it. nt |
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:44 PM
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12. It'll be TV viewing worthy of... |
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Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 12:45 PM by polichick
:popcorn: :toast:
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:45 PM
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13. You can't have a blame game with only one side involved. They may fall for it. |
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:48 PM
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16. I'd like to see Obama go to GOP congress members townhall meetings too so he can take them head on. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 12:49 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
Unannounced would be best.
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:49 PM
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17. They'll say no, and then they'll still say that dems are not listening to them. nt |
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Mon Feb-08-10 12:58 PM
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18. Guess I'm a genius then |
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Been saying that ever since the GOP smackdown.
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Mon Feb-08-10 01:00 PM
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19. I'd like to see a bunch of empty chairs with Rethuglican names on them |
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on C-Span. That would be helpful!
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Mon Feb-08-10 01:34 PM
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21. puts them in a no-win situation |
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They can turn him down and be seen as rejecting his efforts to reach out to them.
They can show up and once again be exposed for having no meaningful ideas.
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Mon Feb-08-10 01:41 PM
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22. The thugs have no plans... |
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Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 01:42 PM by BlueIdaho
Its obvious they do not want any sort of reform so they have never actually developed any meaningful proposals. Now America will see that (a) they like health care just the way it is and (b) they are owned by the corporations that ARE directly responsible killing grandma.
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Mon Feb-08-10 02:23 PM
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23. They will show up and berate him nonstop |
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for not listening to them originally. I imagine he will be expecting this
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Mon Feb-08-10 04:02 PM
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31. And he'll just point out some of the few rethug amendments |
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included in the bill, although he will have memorized all of them.
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Mon Feb-08-10 06:41 PM
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35. I'm sure that's exactly what he's expecting. |
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Axelrod and co. aren't idiots. They know what's going on.
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Mon Feb-08-10 02:36 PM
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24. Get expectations down a little. Repugs will |
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be far more prepared for this than they were when he clobbered them last Friday
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Mon Feb-08-10 10:32 PM
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39. You can bet they are rehearsing for the big show now. |
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Mon Feb-08-10 03:00 PM
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25. I'll settle for a beginning of reform, |
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particularly an end to claim denial over pre-existing conditions.
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Mon Feb-08-10 06:20 PM
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I did say it was a political move. Let's see if real reform may come of it.
My hopes aren't high.
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Mon Feb-08-10 03:12 PM
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26. Sweet! He can give them tort deform for single vote and make a horrible bill |
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even worse. He already copted the "across state lines"/race to the bottom which was the 2nd leg of their "plan".
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Mon Feb-08-10 03:17 PM
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27. During the last Republican Q&A smackdown |
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Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 03:20 PM by Sheepshank
one of the Reps....(Chaffitz maybe?) chastized Obama for not televising the whole and multiple and various located HCR discussions. Obama agreed it was something that needs fixing...he's attempting to fix it;) All I can say is, be careful for what you wish, Republicans!
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Mon Feb-08-10 03:30 PM
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29. He can smak those nimrods around because even if they have half a brain |
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they can't let on or they lose street cred with the mouthbreathers and of course they lack any ideas as Obama has already co-opted the only health bill they've come up with in the past 30 years.
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Mon Feb-08-10 03:44 PM
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30. I see no downside for Obama or the Dems! |
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The GOP, on the other hand, is boxed in and totally fucked.
They can skip it and look like chickenshits or they can show up and say no. What they can't do is show and and agree with the Dems -- wingnuts and teabaggers will bury them. If they throw out one of their "brilliant" ideas, Obama is going to make them stand up and provide specific details -- which they never have.
There is nothing good in this for the GOP.
Sweet.
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Tue Feb-09-10 12:01 AM
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41. I totally agree with your assessment |
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While the Republicans led by Senator Jim DeMint want to play "Napoleonic Wars" and try to make HCR Obama's "waterloo", Obama may very well have set up the perfect "checkmate". The Republicans may soon realize that they have been playing the wrong game all along.
I see absolutely no upside for them in this and we may well get HCR and (if I may be ridiculously hopeful for a moment), the downfall of the GNOP out of all of this.
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Mon Feb-08-10 06:34 PM
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34. Big Ed just said that the Republicans are refusing to have the meeting/ |
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Mon Feb-08-10 06:43 PM
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36. They need to either put up or shut up... |
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and we know that putting up isn't going to happen.
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Mon Feb-08-10 10:19 PM
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37. Republicans will not join any televised event |
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Mon Feb-08-10 10:29 PM
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38. Here we go, another year of stalling. Make that 9 months; after November |
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McConnell and Boehner will control the agenda.
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Mon Feb-08-10 11:50 PM
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40. Maybe not. You know who the corporate press will say who "won" |
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We have to stop deluding ourselves into thinking the fix isn't already in. :puke:
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Tue Feb-09-10 12:04 AM
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42. His Q & A with the House Republicans wasn't spun as a "triumph" for the GNOP |
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The deck may be stacked against us but 2006 and 2008 proved that it's not impossible for us to win with the proper amount of momentum that no amount of "liberal media bias" and/or electronic voter manipulation can overcome.
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