**** Health Care Summit: Thread #6 ****

[Clio the Leo]

and the beat rolls on....

continued from...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=198103&mesg_id=198103

[HughMoran]

1. 6?

:)

[Clio the Leo]

4. great googley moogley y'all are fast! lol

[dave29]

66. sweet sassy molassy!

lol

[dave29]

2. two thread 5's, :O

! If we can reform how we do live threads, why can't they fix HCR?

[LSK]

3. McCain again???

Now talking about tort reform again.

[LSK]

6. How does tort reform harm the deficit?????

:wtf:

[dennis4868]

8. Tort reform....

hardly bring on any savings for healthinsurance costs....this argument is a joke....shut the fuck up John!

[LSK]

17. and the topic is deficit reduction???? are court costs a big deal or something???

:wtf:

[flpoljunkie]

26. The premiums for doctors are high. The insurance company medical loss ratio is a pitiful 35%!

Medical malpractice insurance companies make out like bandits.

[Phx_Dem]

39. McCain keeps coming back like a bad penny.

[tallahasseedem]

5. McCain is trying

to make jokes again. Oh, he's talking about medical malpractice too. Shocker.

[LatteLibertine]

7. WTH was that comment about AZ and CA LMAO

McLame indeed.

[LSK]

CA steals Arizona's water apparently

Nevermind that both states border the Colorado river.

[Born_A_Truman]

14. John has never heard of the COLORADO River?

[Phx_Dem]

45. Shhhhh. He thinks it's the Arizona River. n/t

[hlthe2b]

70. Shh... keep his hands off OUR water!

:evilgrin:Col

Sorry John, you will always be down-river!

[dmr]

21. That was sooooo appropriate -NOT!

[LatteLibertine]

22. My friends! It's time to scrap the bill and start over

Now he's whining about an option they've used 16 out of 22 times it's been done.

[Jennicut]

9. Malpractice, tort reform, expanding govt. I could repeat the Rethug talking points in my sleep.

The savings from malpractice is small.

[MorningGlow]

18. Less than one-half of 1 percent

Correct? I heard that on Stephanie Miller a while back.

[Jennicut]

31. Obama said $5 billion a year. A small percent. 1/5th of 1 percent per Durbin.

[DevonRex]

10. Isn't it time for McPain's afternoon nap? nt

[liberalpragmatist]

11. McCain "hates California"?

okayeee....

[Born_A_Truman]

40. Feeling is mutual, John

[hisownpetard]

12. Oh, those tiny little hands!

[DangerousRhythm]

79. Call him Junice.

[SeattleGirl]

13. Sigh. Same old same old from old McSame.

:eyes:

[rufus dog]

15. Holy shit

McCain is dumber than I thought.

[Clio the Leo]

16. McCain: I understand the frustration the majority feels when they cant get their vote through...

.... not like THIS john. No you DONT.

[RepublicanElephant]

here we go with the nuclear option lie. nt

[SharonRB]

19. Oh, here goes McLame talking about reconciliation

and the nukular option.

[HughMoran]

20. McCain grates on me like a dog that just won't stop barking. I am not listening to him

:rofl:

He's the only Republican who I know every word he's going to say and have no use for (though Boner was a huge disappointment in this way too.)

[Botany]

23. No John you lost and we won

shut up and sit down

[Jennicut]

24. Poor, poor McLame. Please don't use reconciliation on us!

Wah.

[hisownpetard]

25. McCain, changing the subject.

[SeattleGirl]

29. Wheeee! Obama going after the Boner again.

:applause:

[SharonRB]

27. Just as I figured he would...

prez says this is up to the Senate. He really has nothing to do with it.

[Clio the Leo]

28. POTUS: "Most Americans dont care about procedural matters, they just want a vote..."

good way to deflect that Mr. President!

[Arkana]

35. And he's right.

Most Americans DON'T give a shit about procedural matters.

They know the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1968, but does anyone know the whip counts off the top of their heads?

No, of course not.

[tallahasseedem]

30. McCain might blow...

Obama is calling him out on his crap.

[LatteLibertine]

32. I can decided who's the biggest tool

McLame, Boner, Cancer, Paul Lyin', or Gassie.

Love to see President Obama say the American people elected us to lead, suck it up.

[Jennicut]

34. Boner took the cake for me.

[LSK]

37. All of the above n/t

[polichick]

33. I really hope the prez doesn't cave on reconciliation and try to convince...

Congress not to go that route.

[global1]

36. Now McCain's Up Again - I Said It Before And I'll Say It Again.....

this guy is an ass. He's always trying to be cute with his little barbs that he throws out. He's in the fight for his political life in Arizona. I hope he gets beat. The guy that he is running against in the primary will be easy for a Dem to beat in the general election. Now he's talking about reconciliation. He's trying to score points to knock out the thought of reconciliation. He puts out a threat about 1/6 of our budget.

Hey John - we'll put off reconciliation if you and your Regressive buddies stop filibustering and cooperate.

[LatteLibertine]

49. McLame's the worst sort of career politician

utter gilded corporate tool. For example look at what he was given by the financial sector alone from 1989-2009 compared to other politicians.

http://ow.ly/UyZe

[Clio the Leo]

41. he wont ..... this is spin....

... the GOP won't budge.

he'll HAVE to .... WE will have to.

[Clio the Leo]

38. he's throwing them a torte reform bone....

.... "I'd be interested in discussing what we can do to lower frivolous law suits."

[RepublicanElephant]

42. yeah,like gop supreme court overruling state's right to run its election.

gop had no prob with bush v gore.
hypocrites.

[LSK]

43. You are opposed to Fed Govt except for things you like

Now you want to impose on states rights. You can't have it both ways.

[tallahasseedem]

47. I liked that one...

makes for a nice clip to show all night.

[tallahasseedem]

44. Get 'em Durbin...

call them out on their medical malpractice crap.

[LSK]

46. Durbin: Tort Reform would save 54B over 10 years

Compared to a 2 trillion bill.

[DevonRex]

Durbin came armed with the facts.

And the repukes brought nothing but talking points and campaign slogans.

[Jennicut]

48. Durbin: medical malpractice is 1/5th of 1 percent of the overall costs of HC.

[tallahasseedem]

51. I was waiting for

someone to put this is perspective. Fabulous! :)

[Arkana]

50. Wow, I hope that when Reid gets bounced Durbin gets his job.

Cause he's very smart, very eloquent, and he sounds like he has a spine.

[RepublicanElephant]

agreed! nt

[flpoljunkie]

60. Durbin's passion is most welcome. He's a great guy! Knows his stuff, too!

[Phx_Dem]

52. High-five to Dick Durbin! Facts matter.

:fistbump:

[BeyondGeography]

53. Dick the Demolisher

:thumbsup:

[SeattleGirl]

64. Yep!

[SharonRB]

54. The guy sitting behind Durbin

looks like he could be his son.

[amyrose2712]

55. Durbin:"Look at who WE are" nt

[Rosco T.]

56. Oh MAN, Durbin opening up a can of WhoopAss! n/m

[polichick]

57. Ha-ha! Durbin suggesting they give up their socialist healthcare!

[MrsCorleone]

58. Dick Durbin says malpractice claims make up 1/5 of 1 % of health care costs per CBO.

Yet, McCain and the rest of the republicans continue the tort reform bs talking point.

[Phx_Dem]

59. Holy crap! Dick Durbin is on a roll!

"If you think government health care is socialist, give up your plan!"

Kiss me, Dick! :*

[Jennicut]

61. Durbin: get rid of your health insurance funded by the govt. if you hate socialism.

[dmr]

67. I applauded him on that

[Clio the Leo]

62. final segment - expanding coverage NT

[elleng]

63. YAY DURBIN!

C'mon over to FEHB, y'all!

[LatteLibertine]

65. Durbin did rock :)

[dmr]

68. I just want to hug him

[Bill219]

73. I have been following this on twitter and this was my favorite tweet

http://twitter.com/insanityreport


Dick Durbin came in and...well...basically swung his dick around slapping each republican in the forehead 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

[dmr]

74. lol

[LSK]

77. this is mine: "I think Leader Boehner is particuarlly livid about the tanning bed tax.

[quiet.american]

69. Durbin -- yes! "'Pubs, if you don't like your gov't health insurance, drop it!"

But why try to stop everybody else from having it.

[rufus dog]

71. Damn it Durbin!

Stop it with the facts.

[LatteLibertine]

72. If Boner wants a clean sheet of paper

he should grab some next time he hits the bathroom.

[Bobbie Jo]

Hell, give his some crayons too, so the adults can get something done.

[Jennicut]

75. Another Rethug Dr. wanting to scare seniors.

[nolabear]

76. Boy, they really front loaded this with their pet doctors, didn't they?

[SeattleGirl]

78. Do ALL Republicans just pull "facts" out of their asses?

Never mind. Rhetorical question. :eyes:

[Skidmore]

80. These physicians are an embarrassment.

Barrasso needs to hold his profession to their oath to provide quality care and not let it suffer.

[hisownpetard]

95. All lies!! I was married to an orthopod for 34 years. They do NOT treat all patients who come.

Most of them, including my ex, have registration forms
that ask dozens of questions, but the most important one
is: List all your insurance carriers.

That answer is what determines if you get an apptmt. right away
or if you're told that the doctor does not have any apptmts available
for a month. Or, if you have Medicaid, "The doctor refers Medicaid
patients to the clinic at the hospital."

LIAR.

[LSK]

81. dude you can shop around for an MRI but nobody know can pay for one

Idiot.

[MadBadger]

82. How hard is to understand that many have Great Health Care, but a shitty Health Care SYSTEM

[NYC_SKP]

83. Rich people come to US for best health care. And your point is???

:shrug:

[KathieG]

89. I know, right?

[elleng]

84. 'What's it cost?' ought to be the First question?

B.S.

[LSK]

87. is this gonna be 10k or 12k, cuz that makes a difference

:eyes:

[elleng]

103. Yes, but not to a doctor, when seeing one initially.

First question should be, will you let me know what's going on? And explain things to me?

[NYC_SKP]

85. Mengele was a doctor, too. n/t

[LatteLibertine]

86. Republican plan = take lobbyist cash and kick the can down the road

[SeattleGirl]

88. No, Barrasso, YOUR PARTY is not listening to the American people.

[LatteLibertine]

90. Here comes the pain, Get 'em President Obama!

[SeattleGirl]

91. Yay Obama! "They're not premiers or sultans...."

[Clio the Leo]

92. Obama to Barasso: "Would you be satisfied if everyone in Congress had catastrophic care?"

To which Barasso replies, "yeah, sure, whatever" (paraphrased)

Obama: "what if you were only making $40,000 a year?"

[tridim]

97. 100% pwned

[GoCubsGo]

99. YES!!!

THANK YOU, Mr. President! These assholes have no fucking clue as to how the rest of us live.

[Clio the Leo]

102. "studies have shown that the people who use health spending accounts have a lot of disp. income..."

"and WE are talking about folks who DONT."

[MiniMe]

134. That's my President

Totally pwned Bareasso

[Jeroen]

93. Colbert infiltrated the debate???

[Clio the Leo]

106. ha ha! NT

[butterfly77]

Barrasso; Republicon...

bullshit talk,just wasting time...

[dmr]

94. Barrasso is using that faux outrage the pugs like to use, but it's bad acting

[LSK]

96. Obama nailing him, most folks are not Sultans and Premiers

[polichick]

104. Great line!

[Jennicut]

98. Obama is killing this fool. HSAs do not help poorer folks!!!

[SeattleGirl]

100. "Members of Congress are in the top income bracket."

Speak it, Mr. President!

[tallahasseedem]

111. That was

AWESOME!

[LSK]

the fucking asshole don't understand that not everyone makes $170k +

[tridim]

108. Nor do we have HC lobbyists giving us millions in free cash.

Obama is boiling the problem down perfectly. He's so freaking good.

[LSK]

116. but its so obvious, how can they not see it???

[crazylikafox]

128. They do see it. They just couldn't care less.

[KathieG]

109. The republicans are so out of touch it's not even funny.

[NYC_SKP]

110. That's most of Congress. They also think a "small business" is 200-300 employees. n/t

[MorningGlow]

101. "Health savings account" bullshit again

Don't you have to have money to put IN the health savings account first?

At least Obama gets it...

[SharonRB]

105. Waxman exposing Ryan's plan for vouchers

[LatteLibertine]

107. Gawd the Republicans are so shameless and transparent

[tridim]

112. And they're losing badly, on live television.

[Jennicut]

113. Waxman taking the Rethugs on. The Rethug rhetoric is shameless.

[MorningGlow]

114. LOOK OUT Waxman's talking sense n/t

[Clio the Leo]

115. The left wing blogosphere just ....

.... creamed their pants over the exchange between Obama and Barasso. The left wing blogosphere are NOT Obama cheerleaders.

Happy times!

[DevonRex]

118. That was fantastic, wasn't it? nt

[tallahasseedem]

121. LMAO!

It was worth watching all day for just that comment!

[tridim]

124. Which unfortunately probably means the MSM will ignore this particular slapdown

[tallahasseedem]

117. CNN...

showing the twitter feed with all of them going against the Repugs...probably not what they wanted to see.

[dmr]

123. good to hear n/t

[Clio the Leo]

119. Waxman: "Would members of Congress be willing for their medicre beneficiaries to only have ..."

.... catastrophic coverage?"

[Born_A_Truman]

120. Are they on break again?

CNN talking heads again. WHY do they think we want to hear them instead of the actual discussion? WHY???

[SeattleGirl]

122. Nope. Waxman is still talking.

[MorningGlow]

125. Waxman's making too much sense

Gotta talk over him, doncha know.

[tallahasseedem]

127. What makes someone a senior political analyst?

I think we should all have that title! :)

[dmr]

131. I know I'd make a better one than some I see on TV

[Jennicut]

142. WTF is Gergen talking about? Obama won't get any momentum for today?

He thinks Obama needs a Tom Daschle type to go talk to the Rethugs.

:rofl:

[LatteLibertine]

126. I'm so happy I voted for President Obama

Perfect? Heck, no. Leaps and bounds better than the alternative? Hell yes.

[polichick]

129. Did Obama just slap Waxman down? Something about campaigning.

[Clio the Leo]

132. no, he's being fair...

... he had chided the GOP for using the opportunity to campaign and he couldn't let Waxman do the same.

[MiniMe]

141. He wanted them to be brief

Waxman made some great points, but he was talking a long time.

[SeattleGirl]

130. Why is this guy talking about the death penalty?

[GoCubsGo]

135. He's trying to play "Gotcha!"

I bet he loses.

[Clio the Leo]

139. he's accusing the President of being a hypocrit...

... behaving DIFFERETLY now than he did when he was in the IL state senate.

[tallahasseedem]

133. Why does Boner keep deferring his time?

What an idiot.

[hisownpetard]

143. Doesn't want to be pwned by Obama, which he surely would be.

[LatteLibertine]

145. Outside of

Corporate talking points he's got nothing.

[annabanana]

162. once bitten twice shy

Prez called him a liar and accused him of "getting off the point" earlier.

[MarjorieG]

136. Same use of IL familiarity to diss Obama, wrongly. Shame on you.

Same use/he hade in GOP summit where Obama held court.

[tallahasseedem]

Salt, pepper and breadcrumbs?

WHAT is this guy talking about? Just because you come from the same state as Obama doesn't give you more credibility!

[MorningGlow]

147. Now "etch-a-sketch"?

Who is this asshat?

[BReisen]

137. I'm impressed

With our President's ability to effectively run a meeting (I wish I worked with him!), and to call "bullshit" when he sees it.

[SeattleGirl]

138. Dude, YOUR SIDE keeps getting in the way of anything getting

done. Shut up.

[Clio the Leo]

140. somebody kidnapped Harry!!!

Harry Reid IS MISSING!!!!

[MorningGlow]

144. Potty

;)

[SeattleGirl]

146. LOL! The look on Obama's face just now was like Charlie

Brown listening to the "wha wha wha" of the school teacher. :rofl:

[tallahasseedem]

153. This guy is batshit crazy.

Period.

[LatteLibertine]

148. LMAO pick up 3 mil and ignore 27mil

good idea :P

Try talking to "American people" who aren't among the most wealthy minority or who aren't lobbyists.

[dmr]

149. In my district .... blah blah blah ...

[SeattleGirl]

150. Stop it with the "The American people don't like this" bullshit!

[Jennicut]

151. Etch a Sketch? What is this fool talking about?

[MiniMe]

163. He wants to shake the etch-a-sketch and start over

*facepalm* Get the idea suckers, that ain't going to happen, no matter how many times you bring it up.

[hisownpetard]

152. This Roskam guy is very full of himself, isn't he?

[SeattleGirl]

155. Yep.

[Clio the Leo]

154. Rachel is gonna have a FIELD DAY with the etch a sketch metaphor....

.... the Rep from IL is saying that Congress should shake the health care bill like an etch a sketch and start over.

[tallahasseedem]

156. He was full of metaphors...

very stupid ones.

[SeattleGirl]

158. Oooh, I hope she does!

[LSK]

159. Can you please give us a spoiler alert!!!

:rofl:

[LatteLibertine]

160. There should be massive

pwnage from both Rachel and Keith on many lame Republican talking points and metaphors.

[dmr]

164. I wish she was on with Keith tonight instead of Mathews

[MarjorieG]

171. And his repeat of Obama's visit to the GOP.

[LSK]

157. Roskam another campaign speech, no answers

[Clio the Leo]

161. POTUS: "I asked a question .... and I didn't get an answer on it .... and you're wasting time..."

(paraphrased)

"and you're pissing me off .... but not really, because you're actually playing into my scheme ... little flies!"

[LSK]

165. new thread?

[MorningGlow]

168. Televising ANY bipartisan meeting is sheer genius

Just sit back and let the repukes dig themselves deeper...and deeper...right in front of the American public!

:rofl:

[redwitch]

166. Etch a sketch boy should beaten senseless with one.

Oh wait, he's already senseless.

[Clio the Leo]

167. Please continue to thread 7....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x198661

[elleng]

169. Barton's right, Prez is a very good moderator.

[elleng]

170. Prez O so politely handed it to 'Mitch.'