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Mon Mar-08-10 10:56 PM
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Poll question: Does Dennis Kucinich Speak For You? (Binary Poll) |
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Mon Mar-08-10 11:09 PM
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1. On NAFTA. the wars, and Senate HCR, he certainly speaks for me! |
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Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 11:12 PM by IndianaGreen
I also support his efforts to save jobs in Cleveland during the BRAC process.
He also speaks for me when it comes to PATRIOT.
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Mon Mar-08-10 11:43 PM
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2. Better than any one else I know. |
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Mon Mar-08-10 11:48 PM
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Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 11:50 PM by Blue_In_AK
In the short run, yes, he most certainly speaks for me. But in the long term, it may be more important politically for the bill to pass, even though it's imperfect. With enough pressure from us, the electorate, they might actually pass little fixes to make it better. We have to move forward, even if it's baby steps.
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Tue Mar-09-10 10:01 AM
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13. I think the opposite is true. |
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In the short term, it would appear expedient from a partisan perspective to pass this bill. In the long term, passing this bill is going to prove akin to selling us down the river. As has been pointed out by numerous posters, if this health "care" plan were being sold by the Republicans, there would be near universal outrage over it. With Obama at the reigns, the strict partisans tighten their blinders and forge onward, to their detriment.
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Tue Mar-09-10 01:03 PM
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24. You have a very good point. |
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I'm really torn about this, because I'm a solid single-payer supporter, but I keep thinking if they couldn't even get a public option into the bill, how in hell could they pass a single-payer bill? Everything is so messed up down there in DC. I'm extremely disappointed in President Obama. Although I always had doubts whether he would be as fabulous as everyone thought he would be, I really expected more from him on this health care bill than what we've gotten.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:39 PM
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28. You sure can't get one if you don't try for one. |
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This pill would be a lot easier (if still not desirable) to swallow, if Obama and Co. had fought for a real plan from the onset, and then negotiated down to a compromise, something at least marginally better than the flat out crap they're trying to foist on us.
Their mistake was in trying to angle for what they thought they could get, rather than for what they wanted, though it's just as likely -- maybe more so -- that they didn't want a single payer plan to begin with, but not wanting to actually admit that, or take any sort of strong stance whatsover, they concocoted the lame-o "public option" ruse.
The whole process has been embarrassing and insulting. Still, who knows, maybe the product will be better than advertised, and they really will be able to improve on it, but politically, they aren't going to make any hay out of this. It's simply going to prolong the agony. If I had a vote, I'd vote nay.
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Tue Mar-09-10 04:48 AM
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Tue Mar-09-10 11:29 AM
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Tue Mar-09-10 12:01 PM
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22. 13...666...something else. |
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:12 AM
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than any other Dem, but I'm the only one who really speaks for me.
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:16 AM
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6. If Bernie Sanders supports the Senate bill with Obama's fixes, then why the hell can't Kucinich? |
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Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 07:22 AM by flpoljunkie
Sanders, in the end, will vote for a health care bill, even if it lacks a public plan. http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=8be544e1-7037-4d3c-869e-092396e9bcd7
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Tue Mar-09-10 11:18 AM
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17. Should put that up as an OP... |
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and watch the dodges and listen to the crickets...
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:11 PM
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29. and it's one of the few things with which I disagree with him on. nt |
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:18 AM
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7. Love ya, Dinger, but Dennis doesn't prompt a |
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binary response from me, at least most of the time from his early political career as Cleveland's mayor to the present era.
We need -- and deserve -- a full-length political profile character piece in THE NEW YORKER, similar to the level of attention given to Mayor Daley in the current issue of that magazine. Kucinich is complex.
A significant percentage of people who think he is an attention-seeking grandstander and those who think he is the last warrior fighting the good fight for the Democratic Party's true soul would surely agree that he is a complex man.
On a tangential note I still like his version of "Sixteen Tons."
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:26 AM
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8. sorry, can't be binary on this. Sometimes he does. Other times, not |
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:28 AM
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9. There's nobody I always agree with, but more often than not I agree... |
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...with Dennis on the issues.
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:28 AM
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10. He speaks from his ass |
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It's because of such "progressives" that there is no progress for decades now. Bunch of fanatics with zero grasp of reality.
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:30 AM
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11. You seem to be projecting. :) |
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Tue Mar-09-10 11:16 AM
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Tue Mar-09-10 09:58 AM
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12. On the health care issue in question, |
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Tue Mar-09-10 10:02 AM
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14. More often than not n/t |
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Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 10:03 AM by Tom Rinaldo
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Tue Mar-09-10 10:04 AM
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15. He speaks for the people of his district ... |
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beyond that, he is the Ron Paul of the democratic party ...
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Tue Mar-09-10 11:22 AM
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18. He speaks for the Nimbibian Star System when he says |
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"klaatu barada nikto". He's the Alfred E. Neuman of outer space.
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Tue Mar-09-10 11:52 AM
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20. He did see a UFO once. |
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:14 PM
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Wow you should write for Cracked.
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Tue Mar-09-10 11:55 AM
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21. On this issue he speaks for me. |
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He gets it and I appreciate his willingness to stick his neck out to tell the truth about this bill.
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Tue Mar-09-10 12:31 PM
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23. On the issue of health care, yes. |
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Tue Mar-09-10 01:50 PM
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Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 02:09 PM by Zomby Woof
Nobody speaks for me except myself.
Anyone who claims others speak for them is a goddamned tool.
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Tue Mar-09-10 02:30 PM
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I can't swear that he's always right, but he's right a lot more than almost anyone else.
If we had a couple of hundred of him in Congress, this would be a better world.
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Tue Mar-09-10 03:41 PM
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27. No, not really...But I think he is ok. |
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Just ok, I don't worship his crazy ass.
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