Hahahaha! MSNBC changing the script a bit!

[FrenchieCat]

This was a Democratic night after all! :rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

isn't that a hoot? Let's see what Howard says. NT

[FrenchieCat]

3. He still saying the same!

Now they are speculating the WHAT IFs the Dem Seat in D12 would have been won by the Pugs?

WELL, IT WASN'T! :rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

10. Poor Tweety....

... saying "If the Dems had lost that PA special, it could have meant a 40 seat loss for them next fall." Like he'd been waiting to say that all day.

[jberryhill]

23. If I Had Wheels, I'd Be A Wagon

And if potatoes were sweet and grew on trees in Hawaii, they'd be pineapples!

[baldguy]

54. Actually, a pineapple grows on a bush.

[jberryhill]

63. Well, if they grew on trees - those potatoes would STILL be pineapples

But, thank you, Charles freakin' Darwin.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

36. Tweety doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He is ridiculous.

Don't know how you guys can watch this shit. Honestly. My blood pressure would be sky high!!

[FrenchieCat]

1. Chuck Todd is getting a bit irritated while Fineman is still talking Dem Doom!

:rofl:

[DrToast]

16. It's weird. Chuck Todd is usually the doom and gloomer.*

*

[FrenchieCat]

24. Perhaps too hard to deny the undeniable to any great extent.....

without a special election in PA going to the Pugs,
their story stinks and Todd knows this if nothing else.
That's the look he had on his face. Looked like his cheeks were hot.

[seattle_blue]

That's funny

I was thinking the exact same thing!!!!!

[roguevalley]

31. consider: critz won, sestak the dem won, the dem race in kentucky

pulled more dem votes than rep. it is a dem night.

[FrenchieCat]

48. Correct! It was grand!

[Cha]

2. Whew! How did we ever extract

that from their mouths?

[FrenchieCat]

5. They've been reading DU....

and know that they ain't fooling nobody!

[Cha]

13. ..

lol..if not they should be!

[tmyers09]

4. "Sestak needs to reach out to Specter."

Bullshit. The loser reaches out to the winner. That's how it always goes. Not vice-versa.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Specter stated that he would get behind Sestak!

BTW, MSNBC keep talking about "the environment".....
guess they are talking about the one that they themselves created?

[flamingdem]

8. Somehow Sestek doesn't look too worried about reaching out to Arlen nt

[FrenchieCat]

17. Sestak already did in his speech.......

Thanked him and everything! :)

Dems Unite, cause that what makes politics the art of the possible...
not trying to teach ourselves a lesson, when the assholes on the otherside
are really really fucking scary!

[Cha]

22. Exactly and I bet you're right about

the Prez already calling Sestak bc that's what he does.

[flamingdem]

39. true dat! nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

47. They keep talking about the president. That this is a referendum on him. Seems to me that it's

really a repudiation of the Republican Establishment. The tea baggers did well.

The problem is with the Republican Party. It is a party that is divided. What's Sarah from Wasila going to do now? She threw the tea baggers under the bus and is now with the party establishment. How is she going to show her face in Kentucky for Paul when his father out-polled her and every other Republican?

Why hasn't the M$M gotten it right yet? This isn't about Obama who's sitting on a 50%+ approval rating nationwide, despite the hate rhetoric and obstruction from the right.

This is really about the Republican Party, a reaction against Corporate Elite as well.

The M$M needs to get it right.

Sestak doesn't have to grovel to Obama, Washington or anyone. He needs to deliver for his constituents in PA and do the job that they want him to do. First, he needs to concentrate on beating Paul. Then, he needs to do what the voters sent him to do--to work for THEM, not Obama and certainly not the Democratic Party.

The punditry has it all wrong.

They are telling the wrong story tonight, and I frankly had enough. I had to turn the t.v. off in order to save my nerves and blood pressure.

[annabanana]

57. +1. . . . . n/t

[CTyankee]

59. It's upsetting to me that that means betraying women on choice.

I have fought for so many years of my long life for reproductive choice. I have two daughters and three granddaughters. My granddaughters, one of which is just coming of age, could face laws that endanger their physical health and their rights.

Being a Dem is not enough, in and of itself...I know that as a mom of two daughters you understand that...

[eleny]

14. You got it

I also think that the governor and the White House needs to do the same.

Sestak was addressing his closest supporters at that victory celebration and they deserved to hear that their work overcame a strong machine. For one minute they deserved that praise from their candidate. So Fineman and his admonition can go straight to hell tonight.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Prez Obama has already called Sestak......

Of that I am sure!

[eleny]

18. No doubt about it

They both know the score. Now it's onward to November.

Btw, I suppose ed Rendell did the same. Hey, it's not personal, it's business. :D

[elleng]

21. Sure hope he can beat Twomey.

[David__77]

25. Much better chance than Specter.

Toomey has gotten a free ride. He's an ultra-rightist and I genuinely believe he'll lose.

[eleny]

26. Since Toomey is a teabag hugger, I think he can

We already know Sestak's campaign has great timing. This should be fascinating to watch. Is PA ready to embrace an agenda that's that far right?

And besides, Sestak should have the support of Rendell and his machine even if it needs some help from the oil can after today. :D

[FrenchieCat]

27. we'll have to make it happen.

We've got that vote now, and we will need it just as much if not more so after the November results.

[karynnj]

56. I agree - the comments on MSM that Rendell would be less involved in

helping Sestak in the fall are ridiculous. Look at 2008, he helped Obama in the general election after being an over the top Clinton supporter.

[okieinpain]

61. why not reach out to specter, shows he's a different kind of pol.

but what do I know.

[WCGreen]

6. I really think that these guys on TV make enough money to

subconsciously, I'm being kind here, favor republicans because of the tax situation...

[uponit7771]

11. ...or somethin!! There shillin for them is overt and in the face of other evidence they don't change

....

[FrenchieCat]

9. Quick changing the conversation to Rand Paul's win!

:rofl:


The only thing that the Teabaggers can rejoice about.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Fineman says he knows exactly what's gonna happen!

I'm laughing! :rofl:


This reminds me of them with the Prez Debates....
where the other side was winning till the instapolls! :rofl:

[eleny]

20. Oh yeah, that was choice

[inna]

19. Context?

Not everyone gets MSNBC and/or has time/opportunity to watch it every night.

[FrenchieCat]

28. Sorry....

Just political analysis.....they've had to adjust their Media head talking points.

[FrenchieCat]

29. Christ back to race politics......

Obama is at about a wobbly 50%, 40% of which is the White Vote! :eyes:

[Clio the Leo]

30. lol, new meme: "Obama is unpopular"....

... which is why he's got a 10 point edge on just about every member of Congress.

[FrenchieCat]

32. Matthews; "Obama wobbly 50%; 40% is the White vote....not enough!"

Like Democrats ever get more tha 40% of the White vote! :eyes:

Poor Tweety!

[WI_DEM]

65. All Tweety ever really cares about is his "white vote" and racist blue collar whites.

[WI_DEM]

66. "whobby 50%" better than Bush's collapsing 25%

[jezebel]

33. And they are refighting the Dem primaries from 2008. "Bill Clinton won the 12th tonight. Obama lost

Pa for Specter."

Unbelievable.

[Cha]

35. The corporatemediawhores are

scared shitless.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. See, this is what I'm talking about. The knee-jerk reactions without thinking through FIRST.

It's so frustrating with us lefties sometimes. We must see the "doom and gloom" in every damn thing.

I'm glad they finally see the light.

[saltpoint]

37. The blue gets thru. !

It takes the mainstream cable folks a long time but they eventually get all their peas eaten.

[Jennicut]

38. Did they figure out an explanation why a more left candidate won a primary in PA and why

the more conservative then Obama candidate won in District 12 there? What does it all mean for Obama?! I imagine it must be giving them a headache to spin it all against Obama and the Dems tonight.

[FrenchieCat]

42. They are trying! Lawrence O'Donnell is working it.....

Bad for Obama, he said!

Of course, no mention of the Left at all.

Also, no mention of the fact that Obama now has Specter's vote till January,
and a spanking new candidate for change for November!

[Jennicut]

45. Yup, same guy that said health care reform was dead...20 times.

[FrenchieCat]

46. O'Donnell just read DU and proclaimed a victory for Progressive,

all of the sudden out of the blue!

It was weird, or he was reading this thread! :rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

40. And Obama BOTH abandoned Specter AND bet on him at the SAME TIME!

... I know the man can multi-task like no other but WOW! That's impressive! lol

[Scurrilous]

41. K & R

:thumbsup:

[vercetti2021]

43. This was a great night

Not only for the state's of Pennsylvania with the victory of Joe Sestak and The special 12th district election and Kentucky for the Dem's having more votes then the Repub votes combined, but for us Dem's across the country, to me this is a sign of things to come.

[FrenchieCat]

44. Smells good to me!

And welcome! :hi:

[vercetti2021]

53. Oh yes its good

and thank you! :D

[FrenchieCat]

49. Fineman is making the Republican case!

Fuck him! I ain't buying that book! No way!

[FrenchieCat]

50. Just laughted outloud at Fineman!

He saying this is a bad Omen for Obama!

[Clio the Leo]

51. Fineman: Obama failed tonight because he did too well in 2008....

... this change he brought with him to Washington has changed the way politics work ... yet he's somehow LOST control of it!

oh they are KILLING me.

Goodnight kids!

[FrenchieCat]

52. Nite!

I told myself no more spending so much time here.......
and I'm gonna say that today was the exception,
not my new rule! :hi:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

55. Has Fineman lost it?

[Clio the Leo]

58. I didn't realize until last night that Fineman is a Republican....

... I just thought he was an.... :kick:

(get it? I thought he was an ass? :) )

[Rosa Luxemburg]

64. yes he is an ...

[Cognitive_Resonance]

60. Good night for Dems. Media analysts look foolish pushing the doom

and gloom spin. They're after ratings, and creating fake drama regarding the Tea Party and an imaginary Republican resurgence. It's bunk. The GOP is in disarray with a mutiny on their hands. The real story last night was failure of the GOP to take PA-12. Not even close despite heavy advertsing buys and attempts to nationalize the race (Obama/Pelosi).

If the pundits were honest they would be admitting that the Republican Party is in desperate shape. 2010 is their last shot at regaining political relevance, and their prospects look bleaker after last night. That reality is not good for TV ratings though.

I think the big story for November is really a brewing anti-Tea Party backlash that will energize Democrats and Independents.

[FrenchieCat]

62. Seems like this morning they are sticking to the original talking points more than ever......

they are back to the "Teaparty is getting stronger" and this election was "Bad for Obama" meme.

That's why the media is dangerous; they don't report on politics, they actually try to manipulate it, which of course is bad for America!

[graywarrior]

67. God, I hate them.

Who can believe any of their lies?