Yavin4
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Thu May-27-10 01:11 PM
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The Media Seems Angrier About Obama Than BP |
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Edited on Thu May-27-10 01:11 PM by Yavin4
Until this disaster, the media pushed the meme that Obama wanted big government to run and regulate our lives to death, and they railed against it.
Then this disaster happens, and they're more upset at Obama's reaction than they are about BP, who is at fault.
To me, certain members of the media desperately want Obama to fail, and this comes after 8 years of keeping silent while a purely incompetent president ran the country.
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Thu May-27-10 01:12 PM
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1. Well of course. The news channels are major corporations, after all. |
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Thu May-27-10 01:13 PM
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2. Right. And they will twist and turn to make the narrative work |
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Thu May-27-10 01:15 PM
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3. I'm getting the same impression. It doesn't seem to be about what |
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BP did and didn't do to cause this (and there are tons of stories out there, starting with their actions immediately prior to the explosion), it's all about the Prez.
Seems pretty blatant.
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Thu May-27-10 01:15 PM
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4. It stands to reason since the Republicans own the media of which you speak |
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Thu May-27-10 01:16 PM
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5. That's because Obama doesn't seem that angry about BP |
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We can argue about what he should or shouldn't be doing to help in the Gulf, but no one can dispute that he's mishandled the politics of this.
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Thu May-27-10 01:24 PM
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"handle the politics"
or
"handle the situation".
I personally prefer real leadership and not just the appearance of it.
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Thu May-27-10 01:36 PM
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Otherwise, any legislation to prevent future catastrophes will be DOA.
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Thu May-27-10 01:24 PM
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12. They want to see his nostrils flare, drool coming from the side of his mouth..... |
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cause his eyes aren't intense enough, and he's not calling PB assholes and threatening to put the CEOs behind bars, etc.....
Yep.....since he's not "appearing" angry enough, it is the media's job to get angry at the President, and just blame him for everything. That's the answer!
The more I think about it, the more I realize that you and the media are two peas in a pod. You also seem to need "anger" demonstrated as you see fit in order to accept that Obama is gonna hold PB accountable. That's quite superficial of you, because it means you care about appearances, and care not about measurable end results (we are in the middle of this thing, a place where rendering judgement is precarious and oftentimes wrong) will be, but how it looks, on the surface, at this exact moment in time. That's how the media approaches it too. They are like 6 year olds dealing with an adult telling them to calm the fuck down; that nothing gets solved by having a trantrum, and that they'll just have to wait for their ice cream. That of course, makes him the bad guy! Brilliant!
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Thu May-27-10 01:37 PM
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18. Obama needs to demonstrate that he has a basic understanding of what people are going through. |
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Instead, he's telling us we don't understand how hard it is for him to do anything. :eyes:
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Thu May-27-10 01:52 PM
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23. Then if he did that, it would be the Dean scream again |
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Thu May-27-10 01:26 PM
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14. I would rather have honest answers like at today's press conference |
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then an empty bullhorn moment. But that is just me...
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Thu May-27-10 01:38 PM
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19. Remember how much Bush's "bullhorn moment" helped his agenda. |
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Then you'll understand why Obama needs to be handling this better.
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Thu May-27-10 01:57 PM
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24. Using Bush's tactics to manipulate people is a good thing? |
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Empty gestures are always found out to be meaningless in the end. Bush looks like a fool 8 years later...
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Thu May-27-10 01:59 PM
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25. Using successful tactics to enact real change is a good thing. |
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I hear Bush also used to breathe oxygen. :eyes:
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Thu May-27-10 02:01 PM
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26. I am sorry but we need a President that does not play on |
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people's fears to get things done.
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Thu May-27-10 02:03 PM
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27. We need a president who gets things done. |
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Instead of lecturing us on how presidentin' is "hard work".
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Thu May-27-10 02:11 PM
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29. Oh, okay. I get it now. Obama is a failure as he has |
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yet to produce enough results because he has not manipulated enough people. And he says being the President is hard work. How would you describe it, a cake walk?
We agree to disagree. I don't think he needs to tell everyone that everything will be all right and just hold his hand and he will make it all better. It is a lie, anyway. Because nothing will be okay in the Gulf for a long time.
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Thu May-27-10 02:14 PM
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30. Really? You think Obama hasn't been manipulating people?? |
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Two words: PUBLIC OPTION.
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Thu May-27-10 01:17 PM
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6. Maybe they wanted Obama to do more photo-ops down there? |
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Thu May-27-10 01:18 PM
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7. That is because they have been trying to .. |
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get him since day one,and this is a lot of peoples chance to pounce..
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Thu May-27-10 01:19 PM
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8. They're desperate to hang a 'Katrina' moment on him |
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Every disaster, be it Wall Street, the banks, the economy, BP's fuck-up - you name it, the question becomes 'Is this Obama's Waterloo/Katrina/Downfall...blah blah'. Sure, some of them were better handled by the Obama administration than others, but neither one was a complete failure that led to the end of Obama; something the media are so hoping to be able to report.
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Thu May-27-10 01:29 PM
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16. The media REALLY did not like finally having to |
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call Bush for the unmitigated and raging disaster he was ... They REALLY wanted to just have him be the RESOLUTE frat boy president who operated from his gut, to use that simple minded nonsense to whitewash his being a complete disaster ...
Meanwhile, BO has been at worst competent ... And, their MO being a part of or bullied by the extreme right wing, is to draw a false equivilency with Bush ...
Yes, they are DYING to have or create this moment ....
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Thu May-27-10 01:23 PM
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9. there's a lot of people who want Obama to fail |
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and they're not all Republicans.
I can only guess at the basis of their hatred of Obama. Some of them - yeah, they're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy to the left, okay - I get that. But some others? Well, I have my suspicions and it ain't pretty.
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Thu May-27-10 01:23 PM
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10. They got Karl Rove's morning talking points fax |
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The M$M's job is still this:
Bu$h/Cheney/GOP Agenda = GOOD
Obama/Biden/Progressive Agenda = BAD
Keep trying to under-educate the masses, you M$M fuckos.
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Thu May-27-10 01:25 PM
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13. They're always angry and snarky at Pres Obama..other corp |
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mediawhores..not so much.
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Thu May-27-10 01:28 PM
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15. The media has to try and create news on their own and they are frustrated |
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that more people aren't falling for the oil spill being Obama's Katrina and they will be equally disappointed when nobody gives a hoot about Obama trying to get Stupak out of the PA primary race.
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Thu May-27-10 01:42 PM
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20. BP & big oil are huge media clients!! All those dumbass commercials |
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Edited on Thu May-27-10 01:43 PM by K8-EEE
Look at our enviro-pretty green flower logo!! THOSE DAMN THINGS RUN ON EVERY NEWS STATION....that is why the coverage is so skewed.
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Thu May-27-10 01:47 PM
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21. Of course they want him to fail and will desire that end no matter how deep |
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he goes in the tank for their corporate masters.
You can't play with snakes and scorpions. You put them under heel if you can and watch them warily if you can't but you can never pretend they are friends, pets, or even not looking to bite your ass.
You always get screwed when making deals with devils.
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Thu May-27-10 01:51 PM
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22. Woodward and Bernstein syndrome, maybe |
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It has become the beacon to "take down the President." They try to create their opportunities to be next.
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Thu May-27-10 02:04 PM
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28. That and the whole Sestak thing. (gotta divert to keep drilling! Can't stall any contracts!) |
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Thu May-27-10 06:23 PM
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31. Anger with a President has more traction than stories about a faceless company |
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Thu May-27-10 08:57 PM
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32. so true and so disgusting. |
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when the Chimperor lied his way to a war, where were those questioners then? I don't recall any serious journalism about That. All I remeber is a bunch of nodding tv heads murmuring something about being with the president in these hard times or some babble. They protected him like he was a soft child.
but wow, Obama can't catch a break no matter what. he just can't do anything right by them.
They are weasel liars buttering their breads, the lot of them.
Either there is too much government (as in regulation) , like the teabaggers and their CNN friends have been saying (the arch enemy of free enterprise and capitalism and pink ponies), or there is not enough (as in deregulation and BP). Guess who the sweet couple were who deregulated to the point where BP and most likely all the other behemoths didn't have anyone to report to. If it meant cutting some safety measures and therefore giving themselves more bonuses, they went with the bonuses.
such a huge sham.
and most people still swallow this.
even here.
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Thu May-27-10 09:16 PM
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33. the press seems to almost hate this president |
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I wonder if it is because he is so competent and so much more knowledgable then republicans - the man is really smart and I wonder if he has a photographic memory. Anyway, the press has always been nasty to deomcratic presidents since Carter and Reagan. But, this president they have been particularly hard on. they have given him credit for nothing he's done including stopping a depression and passing historic health care. They want someone like Bush. show off. bumper sticker politics and slogans not thoughtfulness and intellect. They want a guy you can bowl with and have a beer with rather then a competent problem solver. They are in love with the chest beating, simple slogans and photo ops. they want someone more like Palin. They don't want a serious person who is a policy wonk. They want flash and not substance. They are pissed because obama did not go to a carrier on a helicopter and make a big entrance in a flightsuit.
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