oviedodem
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Mon Jun-07-10 09:43 AM
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How us liberals were completely setup up for failure |
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What has become astonishingly clear is that the power brokers in the republican party (neocons) have played the perfect hand against progressives and democrats alike. I firmly believe we were set-up for failure by the previous admin, ourselves, and the far-right.
It all started back on July 27, 2004 when a little known Illionis senator was the keynote speaker at the democratic convention speech. We did not know it then, but that appearance may just have guaranteed us possibly 12 years of republican rule starting in 2012. Now lets fast forward to the 2008 campaign season when the right effectively nailed us to the cross. It was perfectly engineered that the democrats two best politicians and personalities would square off leaving the democrats with no-one after the dust settled. If Obama won, Clinton probably never would run again; if Clinton won, Obama would be damaged goods. The ultimate feather in the rights hat though: 1 of 2 major ceilings could be broken and destroyed at one time .
The right is inherently racist and sexist so if you know the state of country is dire then why not let one the two things you hate the most take the fall with a bonus being a democrat. Consequently republican's NEVER intended to propel anyone of consequence in that election because they knew that no matter who was in office, the economy, Iraq/Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, dependence on foreign oil etc would be no different so let a democrat with the bonus being a women or african-american take the fall. Considering:
1. We have too many conservative Dems in congress 2. The general lack of intelligence of the public 3. Major issues don't get fixed in 4 years 4. That the economy was going to tank and they have the finance industry in their back pockets
It was a perfect storm for Republicans to let brew.
Most conservatives with half a brain actually laugh at Palin and hated McCain. NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS would those two win against either Clinton or Obama, repubs new this. Now quietly they have started a grassroots movement (Tea Party) that they can control, pushed their message out (they control the media and know it), made the presidents polices out to be far-left when they are really center-left, and have pressured conservative dems to actually make the situation worse by watering down progressive legislation.
So now here we are approx. 5 months from midterms and we have: oil disaster, bad jobs reports, global economy tanking, etc. This is like Carter again. This has nothing to with policies, it's about timing and messaging (which democrats suck at). Think about it, after carter this country has had 20 years of republican influence under the leadership of:
1. An actor 2. Oilman 3. Oilman/idiot + bankers 4. Could make the case for 24 years because Clinton's last 4 was driven by conservative policies not even center left
The frightening thing is that if a republican is elected in 2012 it will be some puppet that looks good and seems sensible that the neocons can control and further gut the country. The sad part is I don't see any democrat outside of the POTUS that could even take on the machine at this point.
Get ready it's not a pretty picture.
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Mon Jun-07-10 09:48 AM
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1. not sure I agree that it has nothing to do with policies . . . . |
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Mon Jun-07-10 10:03 AM
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3. The reason I say that is What policy has Obama enacted that |
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1. Stops entrepreneurship in America 2. Got us totally socialist. The healthcare plan is not even like Australia let alone Canada 3. made us protectionist regarding military and foreign policy (He has killed with more drones and escalated afghanistan) 4. Took away our civil liberties (His gun laws are more open than Bush)
If you listen to the right, you would think that this is Russia circa 1980, we can't own any firearms and have a government speakerphone in our homes, have ZERO military.
If you really think about it, it is never about policies with republicans whether your taking Carter, Clinton, or Obama
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Rosa Luxemburg
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Mon Jun-07-10 09:52 AM
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2. we have to break the machine |
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bring the companies down who fund them, bring the media down who promote them. It needs work - a lot of work. Need more than weedkiller. Their grassroots activists are still very active.
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Mon Jun-07-10 12:55 PM
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4. The only thing that went wrong for the Republicans was that the |
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financial meltdown occurred during the last 4 months of the Bush* term. I expect that it was supposed to land completely in the first months of Obama.
(just my conspiracy theory)
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Mon Jun-07-10 03:58 PM
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5. Could never understand the logic that since Obama is so f-ing bad we are going |
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to elect a repub instead. I don't buy the doom and gloom.
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Mon Jun-07-10 04:16 PM
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6. agreed. this term isn't even half over. |
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wait until the health care goodies kick in and the * tax cuts expire, at least. jesus.
by no means am i satisfied with how they're playing it, but he WILL be re-elected.
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Mon Jun-07-10 04:35 PM
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7. There are soooo many holes in this argument. |
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To start with, Republicans aren't smart enough to plan that far ahead.
Also, I know many conservatives who aren't racist and sexist. Generalizations like that don't help your argument.
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Mon Jun-07-10 05:39 PM
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8. Very interesting theory |
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THANKS for sharing it, it's something to think about.
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Mon Jun-07-10 06:04 PM
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9. So that smooth-talking guy in 2004 is the catalyst for this political Armageddon you're predicting? |
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I don't think so.
:tinfoilhat:
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