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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:42 AM
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Building up and tearing down
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 08:55 AM by WeDidIt
I have a daily drive I take during the week. There was this old barbeque restaurant that had been closed at one point in my drive. Five weeks ago, a big chain link fence went up around it and a sign saying what was going to be there was added.

Three days later, it was an empty lot. The building had been completely torn down and all of the rubble had been removed.

Three days.

It's been five weeks since that building was torn down. Today, I saw a place in the fence had been cut open and it appears parts of the new structure have been vandalized. There was probably theft of materials, too.

They're at least another two or three months away from finishing the building process.

The point?

It's easier to tear things down than it is to build things up.

Progressive liberalism is all about building things up.

Regressive conservatism is all about tearing down what the progressive liberals build up.

Furthermore, when progressive liberals are in the midst of building things up, the regressive conservatives do everything they can to vandalize the building site to make it even harder to build things up.

So I guess in reality, that's my point.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:48 AM
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1. Bingo....
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 08:50 AM by WCGreen
I have always thought that the power of NO was that it was easy to embrace.

It's much harder to convince people that the Status Quo is wrong and that we need to try this.

The real problem is that the Status Quo has powerful defenders and people willing to spend money to keep their place in the pecking order.

Taking a personal observation and successfully turning it into a broader message is the best way to get to the truth.


I guess there are fans of the status quo here on DU. I thought as much. My rec didn't get you to zero...
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:54 AM
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3. I don't sweat the "rec & unrec" thing
There are dozens of DUers who would unrec anything I wrote.

No skin off my nose.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:02 AM
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6. I was just pointing out that is an easy way to point out that the Status
Quo or someone's perception of the Status Quo quickly came into play.

See what you present is good solid writing. As long as the subject isn't praising Bush, Hitler or Carl Rove, I don't see what the problem is...

It's petty.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:08 AM
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8. Thank you
I was trying to illustrate why progressive liberals always have a tougher time than regressive conservatives, and always will.

A lot of DUers will never get past personality conflicts to look at something like what I wrote with a critical eye.

It happens.

People are human, after all.

I appreciate your point about how the power of NO is so much easier than the intricacies of compromise.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:50 AM
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2. As bad as the conservatives are, that is only half of the equation
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 08:51 AM by Go2Peace
If we are not effective and offering a strong counter, and our own values and approach are too often also compromised, then we end up an much less affective counter, and at times even assist in the problems that we deride them for creating.

As much as the Republican's deserve scorn, the real fight is within our own party. We have everything we need in terms of numbers. The country has given us control. And yet we still in many ways falter. That isn't all the "Republicans" and the "Pundits" fault.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:58 AM
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4. The guy is just making a real good point with a great image...
"The real fight is within our party."

What does that mean?

Does that mean you are against anything that doesn't absolutely Align with your view of how things should be?

Cause that's what is seems like.

You see what you are really doing is taking the easy way by saying no via finding intractable fault.



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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:59 AM
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5. I don't sweat what that poster hsa to say
mostly because I can't see a thing that poster has to say.

:evilgrin:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:03 AM
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7. well, I can and it bothers me....
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:36 AM
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9. It used to bother me
then I started using the ignore feature.

:evilgrin:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:53 AM
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10. Sort of why we ought to be supporting progressives- and opposing so called "conservatives"
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 09:53 AM by depakid
N'est pas?
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