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Wed Jul-28-10 08:23 PM
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LMAO @ Chris Hayes (Maddow fill-in) |
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dood's teleprompter screwed up and he looked lost; had to break awkwardly to commercial lol
boom goes the dynamite
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:25 PM
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1. I know - poor guy. An experienced broadcaster would've overcome the prompter failure... |
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I really like Chris, don't get me wrong, but he was stumbling!:rofl:
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:27 PM
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:34 PM
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8. he is a lot better than those experienced on "appearances" Chris is about substance and content |
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i think it's kind of nice to have a fewpeople on who can just discuss what they know and aren't really focused on broadcasting appearances.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:26 PM
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2. isn't he a fast talker ? usually he seems to have a lot to say and talks really fast |
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but also nervous at times.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:27 PM
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3. Yea, it was pretty bad! |
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:28 PM
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5. I think he's really good - did an excellent job yesterday in his presentation. |
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He's able to 'get it' and relay it, like Rachel, in an easily understandable way.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:30 PM
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:37 PM
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9. I'm glad I missed it - I would have felt bad for him. nt |
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:34 PM
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7. He's new to TV and reading that thing is hard |
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TV is hard. Everybody makes mistakes, especially at first. And also, by the way, the teleprompter is someone else's job, not the readers, and in news shows like that, there is no one, no one who can go on without one. It has to be there. Has to be. I have serious empathy for anyone whose prompter goes bad when they are new to such things. Panic on live TV. I have literally seen people pee their pants. Vomit in buckets. So if there was no fluid involved, he did fine.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:38 PM
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10. waiting for youtube of it |
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:53 PM
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14. I could watch it now if I wanted to |
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I've seen thousands of flubs, mistakes, technical problems and they are all equal. None are good, none are very funny to me, as I tend toward empathy for those sitting in spotlight with a good message, or some talent. I could post hundreds of technically flawless hours of horrid right wing broadcasting, Hannity is a master of your gloss and prompter use, and Billo is even better. I still don't like them and still prefer to watch intelligent people, even if they are not high concept pretty face practiced right out of the gate. I'm not watching to see if he can read or cover a glitch. I'm watching for content. Seeing anyone fuck up on air that I like is simply painful to me, everybody likes to have pride in their work, and few have to deal with hundreds of thousands of people seeing all of your beginner's fluffs.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:38 PM
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11. He reads it well, I was thinking that earlier. Remember what a hard time |
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Howard Dean had when he was sitting in for someone? I ached for him!
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:46 PM
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13. It is a difficult trick to learn |
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but the key is having people who have minds, not people who have already learned that trick. Chris is a great writer and thinker. Practice makes prompter perfect, and makes all the glitches into nothing. Practice does not give a talentless hack a mind. Hannity reads that prompter like a madman. Is this something extraordinary? Nope. Does it make him worthwhile? I guess for some it is the main deal. It took Rachel weeks and weeks to not be hyper aware of her appearance, she was not comfortable, and it took time. She found out she looked good, and not fake. She found a good TV Rachel. I love her, and loved her on radio. She had Keith. By the time she had to take the chair, she'd been at it for a while, and yet, she still took time to become as good as she is. Not that long, mind you because she is the whole deal, but there was a learning curve very apparent to my eyes. Just saying. Chris will be fine.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:59 PM
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17. Yes, after I wrote that post I realized I neglected to comment on his writing - excellent! nt |
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And Rachel is outstanding on camera! She's a natural.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:55 PM
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15. do you have any idea why... |
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...they don't frame him so his hands don't show, or spend the $ needed to train that crazy fritzy gesturing out of him?
I find it seriously distracting. He's a good guy, but I don't know if he's made for TV.
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:20 PM
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If he wants to do it as well. He'd not take to it as quickly as Rachel, unless she's learned to teach well, but he'd do it faster than Ed Shultz who for a week or two I though would explode on the air, now he's fine. Well, now he's Ed, not Ed with hypertension. None of these people are actors, and their nerves show quite a bit. O'Donnell in married to an actor, and is used to those forms and tricks. He's married to the part of the skill he was not practiced in. People like Ed or Chris, they are not at all prepped for that moment and for concealing from the camera while also communicating with it. Ed has to stand. Has to. There are others who could not stand and come off well. Ed in a chair at first would have been a nightmare. They find ways. I'd personally like to see Chris with an in depth reporting show, prepared, not live. Because he is great at those stories. Live is for crazy people anyway. Most TV is not live, and news reading is not the best 'use' of Hayes if you ask me. But that is my opinion, and that's all.
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:18 PM
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22. well if they intend to use him live... |
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...I would think they would invest in coaching. It's kind of cruel to just make him wing it.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:42 PM
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12. I just love Chris Hayes. He is earnest, smart, and charming in a geeky way. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-28-10 08:43 PM by MissMarple
In other words, he is a breath of fresh cool air on a stifling day. And that is why Rachel likes him on her program.... or, so I assume.
He is not an actor pretending to be a news reporter. He is the real deal. And he is very cute. ;)
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:00 PM
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24. I like him as a reporter, and in small doses |
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Watching him this week, I was guessing that he uses the same writers Maddow does - you can hear the same sort of sentence structures - but he doesn't seem to be as comfortable delivering the words. I can hear Maddow's tone of voice in what he's saying, but it doesn't ring as sincere for me. Maybe it's because he seems young enough to be my grandson (I know he's a lot older, but he looks young) or maybe it's because he hasn't had time to develop gravitas, but I'm finding him hard to take on a daily basis.
Now the woman who filled in before whose name I forgot, she was good.
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Wed Jul-28-10 08:56 PM
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16. That was too painful to watch! I had to turn the channel......... |
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then I forgot to change back to the show.
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:24 PM
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19. He's been doing a great job. |
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:43 PM
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20. I will take a dozen Chris Hayes commentators to what we get on most |
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of the "news" programs. At least he knows what he is talking about. Give him time.
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:56 PM
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21. Weren't you just LYAO the other day when you saw that "dood" Olbermann was on vacation? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:45 AM
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:02 PM
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Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 03:02 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
:) I caught that, too.
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:37 PM
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but it stuck in my memory due to the "dood" and criticism itself. I'm glad I wasn't the only one. :)
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:12 PM
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26. I just checked and Chris Hayes |
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Knows how to spell dude. Point to Hayes.
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:57 PM
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28. Is this like stupid shit night and nobody sent a memo or anything? nt |
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Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 10:57 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
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