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Tue Dec-07-10 03:17 PM
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The LAST REASONABLE MAN standing in Washington DC?? |
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Thom Hartmann says that Obama is trying to portray himself that way.
But, he asks, is this good for the country - or even for Obama?
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:19 PM
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1. Why would he ask that? |
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Is Hartmann rabble rousing?
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:29 PM
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2. Thom says that he thinks it's the wrong strategy to portray the prez that way... |
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He says that he learned from screenwriting that "the hero of a story is only as good as the bad guy is bad" - that's why Bush had to turn his enemies into monsters. But during the first two years of his admin. Obama has had a Dem House and Senate, so where's the bad guy? He hasn't demonized the Republicans; there's no bad guy. (At least so far.)
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:34 PM
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3. This isn't the movies. |
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:37 PM
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4. True enough, but if that's the strategy - portraying the prez that way - the WH... |
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...is writing a narrative, just like in the movies.
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:43 PM
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7. The President can portray himself. |
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I think people saw that today, unscripted. He's not some character out of a screen writers mind.
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:46 PM
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8. Obama is never unscripted. Anyway, Thom goes on to say that... |
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...a WH statement points out that if Republicans refuse to govern, things will change and they will pay.
So I guess he's playing the last reasonable man FOR NOW.
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:48 PM
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:54 PM
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10. Well, politics is theater. nt |
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Tue Dec-07-10 10:19 PM
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17. Good grief...Maybe Hartman should run for Prez if he knows so much. nt |
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:38 PM
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That is the problem. He is reasonable, logical and pragmatic. Washington - the political class - is, most certainly, none of those things.
Many in the country are that way; perhaps, they may understand that you do not change the world in five minutes.
Unfortunately, Obama has to deal with a political class that is the prisoner of its's passions. And, unable to think logically.
And, 40 to 60% of the eligible voters do not vote and do not care what happens. Which is sadder than what is going on with this political class we have.
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:43 PM
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6. Where do principles come in, principles that lead to good policy? nt |
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Tue Dec-07-10 10:14 PM
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Politics is a blood sport war by other means
They do not.
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Tue Dec-07-10 03:59 PM
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11. Thom Hartmann is not President....... |
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so he can talk a lot....which is what he does.
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Tue Dec-07-10 04:06 PM
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12. Right - it's what we all do here too :) |
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Tue Dec-07-10 06:50 PM
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13. Actually some of us do more than talk........ |
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so I would say that you are speaking for yourself.
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Tue Dec-07-10 09:31 PM
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14. Thom Hartmann does more than talk too... |
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Though that didn't keep you from your usual snarkiness.
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Tue Dec-07-10 10:15 PM
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16. Just emulating your approach...... |
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that you have taken for the past two years.
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Tue Dec-07-10 10:36 PM
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18. Right - I probably worked a hell of a lot more than you did to elect this prez. nt |
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