I'll admit it: i'm a little disappointed that this lunatic can't be connected to republicans

[LeftyAndProud60]

I thought the Sheriff new something we didn't.

Palin still needs to be blamed. She has the habit of saying things w/o thinking about people's feeling. A very mean spirited person.

[snagglepuss]

1. Please cite the sources you're using to arrive at that conclusion.

[LeftyAndProud60]

3. it would have come out by now if he had Tea Party propaganda somewhere. Seems like

he was just a nut

[snagglepuss]

8. Since when do the police make announcements about all facts they

uncover? Do you honesltly think the police have discovered all the websites he has visited or groups he may have joined?

[boppers]

2. Well....

Dupnik didn't mention Republicans.

Interesting that they heard themselves in it, though.

[Tunkamerica]

4. 'please elaborate' he said holding his breath.

[qnr]

5. I don't understand your point. A Volkswagon doesn't have to be connected to

a deer if one makes the driver swerve and hit a tree. It's still a proximate cause.

Edit: /to swerve/swerve/

[DJ13]

6. The FBI is investigating a link to a right wing racist group

[krawhitham]

24. Sounds like the Tea Party

[vaberella]

27. Do you have a link for that? n/t

[iconocrastic]

58. Link please.

[OHdem10]

7. How many Democratic Organizations are anti-semitic, anti -immigrant

and anti-government. The American Rennaissance is
not a left wing organzation.

When you hear anti-immigrant which party do you think of?
When you hear anti-government which party do you think of.

KKK and Neo Nazis are on the Right not left.

Homeland Security and FBI have associated him with
this American Rennaisance Group.

How much more do you need? The Corporate Media receive
the paycheck from the same people who fill the Republican
Campaign Coffers. Just as with McVeigh they Media will
not stick their neck out.

[emulatorloo]

9. Very good point. n/t

[Psephos]

11. Helen Thomas comes to mind. n/t

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[Codeine]

41. Zzzzzzing!

:rofl: Well played.

[jonnyblitz]

47. what democratic organization is Helen Thomas?

duh :crazy:

[Psephos]

52. She's not a Democratic organization; she's a Democratic institution.

On a side note, given your enjoyment of semantics, please note that it's not the (little d) democratic party, it's the (big D) Democratic Party.

That is all. :)

[jenmito]

46. She's not a Democratic Organization. n/t

[Dokkie]

53. I think you might be barking up with wrong true

He cannot be anti semitic since according to mother jones, hes himself is jewish

Tierney believes that Loughner was very interested in pushing people's buttons—and that may have been why he listed Hitler's Mein Kampf as one of his favorite books on his YouTube page. (Loughner's mom is Jewish, according to Tierney.) Loughner sometimes approached strangers and would say "weird" things, Tierney recalls. "He would do it because he thought people were below him and he knew they wouldn't know what he was talking about."

The plot thickens

[emulatorloo]

10. Guardian Article: Jared Lee Loughner: erratic, disturbed and prone to rightwing rants

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/09/jared-lee-loughner-rightwing-rants

Jared Lee Loughner: erratic, disturbed and prone to rightwing rants
Loughner echoes concerns of Tea Party movement in videos that reveal fears about government brainwashing

====

In a series of videos, he gave a rambling account of obsessions and paranoias that appeared to be troubling him with increasing intensity up to the catastrophe. They included references to conscious dreaming, or "conscience dreaming" as he called it, a process of directing one's own dreams that he is thought to have practised. Another was a belief in the gold and silver standard of currency – a favourite topic of the rightwing of American politics that is regularly propounded by the Fox News commentator Glenn Beck.

The tone of Loughner's rantings is almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the populist campaigning of the Tea Party movement. "Don't trust the government listener!" he said in one video, accusing Washington of mind control and brainwashing.

The US constitution, the bible of the Tea Parties, features heavily, as does the suggestion that the federal government is acting against the text. "You don't have to accept the federalist laws. Read the United States of America constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws."

There is also a strong streak of implicit violence in the postings.

===

See WillPitts thread on that article

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x154515

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[riverwalker]

13. he will be

Someone will discover modest financial donations to Palin et al. Someone will find letters to the editor, on blog entries, maybe a Amazon book review (since his thing was literacy) that will expose him. Someone will remember him at a rally. It will be exposed, but don't expect a journalist to do it, they no longer exist. It will be one of us. Get to work.

[Doremus]

14. Another load of crap. It's coming out of the woodwork tonight. nt

[William769]

15. I believe the jury is still out on this one.

[CakeGrrl]

16. I think the investigation is still going on.

The shooting just took place yesterday; the formal charges came today, but I doubt the state and federal authorities are divulging too many details.

If there's any justice, Palin - or at least someone in her orbit if she's too far in denial - are shitting bricks wondering if there's any evidence that she and/or the Tea Party are held in high regard by the shooter.

[catgirl]

17. He sang the praises of Sarah Palin and the tea part...

on either his Face Book page or My Space page. It was published in a news article. So he is connected to the republicans.
And I find it fascinating that RW media personalities are claiming that because he posted that Mein Kamph was one of his
books, he must not be associated with republicans. Hello? Didn't John Boehner continue to support the Nazi wannabe? I
could go on, but I'll just leave it at that.

[Imajika]

33. Please show me where he sung the praises of Palin...

...on his Facebook or MySpace page.

What news article? Please link it?

From what I can tell he never referenced Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, or the Republican Party at all.

People trying desperately to link this deranged lunatic to the political opposition with no evidence is pretty sick.

[ClassWarrior]

18. But your tendency to attempt to take the heat off the Rape-Publicans never disappoints.

NGU.

[babylonsister]

30. +1000. nt

[golfguru]

19. Unabomber lawer will represent Loughner

Judy Clarke, who represented "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski and assisted in the case of confessed al-Qaeda operative Zacarias Moussaoui, has been appointed to represent Jared Lee Loughner, the man charged by federal authorities with two murders as well as the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and two others.

[ClassWarrior]

20. This thread is absolutely brilliant.

1) It implies that the accused assassin isn't sympathetic to the Rape-Pubicans, when it's becoming clear that he is, even though we don't know of any direct evidence yet, and

2) It creates an impression that progressives are cold and politically calculating, in that the poster claims to be "a little disappointed" that we can't play gotcha with our opponents.

Brilliant. Disgusting, but brilliant.

NGU.

[Tunkamerica]

23. see my post below,

[Laelth]

31. +1 Agreed. Brilliant, but disgusting.

I am forbidden from saying what I really feel here.

-Laelth

[Tunkamerica]

21. I just went back and read about 20 of your previous posts.

Every single one was a 'question' like:

I keep hearing people who are starting a business complain about The Health Care law, how exactly does it hurt?

Do you remember the article on Obama's time as Harvard Law Review Pres? If I remember right, all of his supporters became unhappy w/ him because he tried too hard to woo the conservatives. Sound familiar? Should have been a sign.

Moveon.org is doing their part to get Obama out of office. That new BP ad basically blames Obama.

65% of White Voters disapprove of President Obama. Why is this? That's scary.


All quotes. Know at least one person is on to your game. Time to change your SN and start over.

[Tunkamerica]

22. and some more gems:

whenever Obama does what progressives want, his numbers go even lower. It's actually troubling. Maybe this country really is center right.

This Rep. Franks(R) is really hitting the right notes on MSNBC right now. Surprising really. I liked what he's saying more than what Obama was saying. Obama didn't convey anger like this guy.

Reports are saying the economy is back, will Repubs get all the credit?

Do you care if Bradley Manning is kept in isolation? The guy leaked classified info. He's lucky he's still breathing.

[namahage]

26. Probably just extremely "concerned."

Just loving life, if I had to guess.

[Laelth]

32. +1. Deeply "concerned," yes. n/t

-Laelth

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. +1 n/t

[LeftyAndProud60]

50. Oh my, you've figured me out. Get a life. NT

[Ikonoklast]

59. Must have hit close to home.

The 'Get a life' card is usually one of the last ones played.


More than one member here has noticed your game.

[CreekDog]

66. i'm not sure, i mean, where does his post about Obama "eating dogs"

fit in?

:shrug:

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[Skittles]

28. LOLOL

THE SHERIFF IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND YOU KNOW IT

[RBInMaine]

29. All the facts aren't in. Nonetheless, he had radical right wing views even if not a registered Puke

[Jennicut]

34. He was most likely mentally ill but also targeted her for a reason. He seemed to be angry

against those that did not speak English well (a RW issue). I doubt he was an Obama backer. He might have ties with a white supremacy group. Not very liberal. Let it go. And Palin still needs to act more responsibly.

[Imajika]

36. Or Jared may have just been infatuated with Giffords...

No one knows what his motives are, but Loughner may just be a nutcase with reasons for this assassination attempt as bizarre as Hinckley's for shooting Reagan.

[Myrina]

39. Off topic (sorta) ... that's almost hilarious ...

... that he was obsessed with people who don't speak English well, because that just about covers the entire Tea Party and 75% of the GOP. Yet he targeted a Dem. Gotta love the pretzel logic those wingers live by.

[blue neen]

40. Yeah, it's kind of strange then that he targeted a Democrat, huh?

:think:

Spare me. Your spin machine isn't working here.

[Raffi Ella]

42. That lunatic

has a broad viewpoint that very much includes well known right wing rhetoric. To say he can't be connected to republicans is absurd and is obviously the whole point of your post.



and For the record, I call foul on this Member and her post.

[slackmaster]

43. Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message?page=1

[Enrique]

44. so which RW site will link to this thread first?

to show how the libs are politicizing the tragedy. Nicely done. :eyes:

edit: whoever guessed, "Conservative cave" (lol), you win! :party:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=53763.0

[backscatter712]

45. IBTD!!!

The site you linked is one of the ones the admins have deemed verboten to link to, because those particular assclowns make it their mission in life to stalk and bash DU. You've got to admit, they're pretty pathetic, aren't they?

[Ikonoklast]

60. Mostly because they have members here that post nonsense

then run back to their little shithole website and furiously masturbate over what a huge tactical victory they just had.

Hi guys!

Bite me!



:hi:

[Politicub]

48. That's not the point

Jacob Weisberg from Slate said it better that I ever could. See http://www.slate.com/id/2280711/

His quote is in my signature.

[ncteechur]

49. The crazy bastard got a gun lickety split because of the republicans bastardizing of the

2nd amendment. He's connected. Nuff said.

[golfguru]

51. Pothead Loughner registered as Independent and did not vote in 2010

Suspected Tucson gunman Jared Lee Loughner registered as an independent voter in Arizona in the fall of 2006, according to the Pima County Registrar of Voters.

Loughner registered to vote on Sept. 29, 2006, identifying himself as an independent. Records show he voted in the 2006 and 2008 elections but is current listed as "inactive" on the state's voter roles -- meaning that he did not vote in November.

Loughner's decision to affiliate as an independent rather than a Republican or Democrat would seem to affirm the sense that while he targeted Giffords in the attack, it was not a decision born of a set of deeply held political beliefs that fit neatly into either party.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/jared-lee-loughner-was-a-regis.html

[Ikonoklast]

61. Lots of Teabaggers call themselves 'Independents'.

Republicans do it, too.

Means nothing.


What is telling is that he chose to shoot up a Democratic Congresswoman's event.




On Edit: Nice to see you got the right-wing 'pothead' talking point in there.

Good job.

[golfguru]

62. I will say it again, a pothead is not a good thing to become

it is the gateway drug to more insidious drugs.
I do not consider taking drugs a right wing or left wing proposition.
No more than alcoholism is right wing or left wing.

If you are saying that people left of center admire pot addiction
then we agree to disagree.

[Ikonoklast]

63. You are making a fool of yourself.

Pot as a 'gateway drug'?

Show your proof. Any evidence is at best tenuous, with far more studies de-bunking that position.


And wherever did you get "If you are saying that people left of center admire pot addiction" from?

Certainly not from me.

[golfguru]

64. "right-wing 'pothead' talking point"

By that comment of yours you implied right wing looks at it
derisively but you don't. But hey, if you think smoking pot is just
fine and dandy, knock yourself out.

[Ikonoklast]

65. Uhhh, what?

The right is calling the shooter a 'long-haired pothead' in their effort to portray him as some sort of 'liberal'. It's the talking point that is hitting the airwaves and the right-wing blogs.

You persist in inferring things from my posts that just aren't in evidence, are you high or something?

For the record, I do not smoke anything, let alone pot, or any other drug.

[golfguru]

70. What makes you think I watch or read

every news item in the media? Playing golf 5 times a week
does not leave me a lot of spare time.

[last_texas_dem]

54. He may not be "connected"

in the sense of, say, being inspired to shoot Giffords in order to complete Caribou Barbie's "crosshairs" map's goals. But I have no doubt that this shooting was "political" in nature, and this fellow's writings read far more like a deranged right-winger/libertarian than the "loony leftist" the right is desperately trying to turn him into.

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[craigmatic]

56. If by can't you mean that the right have moved quickly to cover their asses with their

media machinery, then yes they can't be connected to the shooting.

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[bemildred]

67. Tsk, let's not "rush to judgement" here.

Wait and see what happens.

[Cherchez la Femme]

68. Who says he can't?

He's a fucking registered Republican, just to start;
and then there are all his right-wing dog whistles :eyes:

[LuckyStrykes]

69. Maybe this is a wakeup call for America

The tea baggers, Palin, Rush, Glenn Beck and others have tapped into an angry, uncivil and bigoted segment of our society and turned behavior that was at one time ugly and unacceptable mainstream, profitable and family oriented. They have helped create and promote the atmosphere that produces and encourages behavior that while profitable for them, can result in tragedy.
I work in a courthouse and violent outbursts, disrespect for judicial officials, law enforcement and general lack of civility has quadrupled and become more prevalent. Everyone is so angry and loud and mean spirited. Jared's are everywhere. They don't need a party affiliation. Anger is profitable and a quick ticket to celebrity and the right are taking their 10% off the top before heading back to their gated communities.

[awoke_in_2003]

71. who said he can't...

do you think it wise for a sheriff to reveal all evidence even before a jury is picked? You don't get a high conviction rate that way.

[rainlillie]

72. I'm waiting for all of the facts to come in before I make that jump

I haven't seen any proof that A. this guy knew what planet he was on and B. That Palin's chart inspired him to kill.