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Tue Jan-18-11 09:31 AM
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62% say: Leave it alone, or make it Stronger (health care law) |
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62% say: Leave it alone, or make it Stronger (via Daily Kos) <...> If you look behind the numbers, and ask specifically about Repealing, or Changing the HCR Bill passed last year, it turns out, Only 26% of Americans actually support the GOP's effort to Repeal the Bill. (Hmmm, I wonder who they might be?) Poll Question: HC14a. What would you prefer Congress do with the new health care law:<...> <...> Actual Poll, pdf -- pg 2
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Bill McBlueState
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:37 AM
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1. this is such an important aspect of public opinion |
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Of the people who don't like the law, an important fraction thinks it doesn't go far enough. But Democratic leaders aren't organized well enough to make this a major talking point.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:44 AM
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5. What Can We Do To Get The Dem Leaders To Rally Around This...... |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:45 AM by global1
poll and make it a major talking point? The people surrounding Obama in the WH have changed - do you think that they will be better in getting this message out than the old crew?
I say call the WH today - 1-202-456-1111 and call your Congressmen/women and Senators. Get them to focus on these numbers and let them know that we got their backs.
I don't think they had that confidence when HCR came up initially. I'm hoping now that it has passed, signed into law and people are finally coming around to realize that this law is good and realize that Congress has the power to make it even better - that our Represenatatives in Congress might get more courage to get behind beefing it up.
They should say that the Repugs want to repeal and take these current benefits away - and we Dems want to even make it better.
That should be their talking point. "Don't Repeal - Reinforce".
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:55 AM
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2. That's all we've been saying all along, Mark. K&R. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:03 AM
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3. The movement in the top two categories since October is pretty |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:04 AM by karynnj
significant. As that is the period when benefits are going into effect (or at least being explained as what will happen in 2011), it suggests that the earlier numbers were due to the liars winning the PR game.
Last Friday, I saw one example of the disinformation. At a social gathering, one older person spoke of the reason he thought HCR should be repealed. His reason was that he said that hidden away in the bill was a 3.8% tax when you sell your home on the amount you sold the home for and that his house could sell for $1 million. Remembering enough, I pointed out that it would first net out the costs and was told I was wrong. I was told that I was thinking of capital gains - where through the $500,000 exclusion and the cost basis, he would pay nothing. However, he said he would have to pay $38,000 for this unfair health care tax.
In fact, that tax only applies to couples with more than $250,000 in income and it applies only on the gain above $500,000. Therefore even when he sells his $1 million house, he will pay nothing on this tax - just as he will pay no capital gains. I found the truth in about 5 seconds from google - where there are many articles debunking exactly what this man said.
The troubling thing is that this man is an accountant and he completely believed the RW lie - and spoke of having gotten a copy of the entire HCR bill - so he knew he was right. (The fact that ANYONE could find any bill online was rather a shock to him when I mentioned it as was the fact that the public hearings (that he said hadn't happened) are on-line for anyone to see even now.)
My goal in arguing it was not convince him - he might be unreachable - but to get others listening to realize that what he said was debunked long ago.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:37 AM
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4. I've been looking and can't find the bill titles |
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It seems like I read here in GD-P that each party is giving interesting titles.
You know, "The job-killing obamacare repeal bill" vs "Holding on to health care for all bill" etc
I'm not sure if it was just DUers being sarcastic.
Any knowledge here as to what I'm hunting?
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:09 PM
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6. Dems and pundits need to keep reminding GOPbaggers |
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that this is "what the American people want." Next time one of them spouts that tired old line about "doing what the American people want."
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:27 PM
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7. I knew Public Opinion would change during open enrollment |
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When people found out things like they could carry their kids until they were 26.
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