The only way Obama would make some (vocal) people happy

[angee_is_mad]

is if he "didn't wake up." I know it is a harsh statement, but last year Roland Martin made this comment on black radio and it was true then and it is even more so now.

This is what we are dealing with people and to see some of the posts on DU and the environment that DU has become has sadden my greatly.I found this forum over seven years ago and it became a haven for me during the bush years. I was able to connect with other like minded individuals. I now look around and wonder WTH! But I guess that's what makes America so great. Freedom of expression and having the right to disagree with people who I once thought I had something in common with politically.

At the inauguration as I stood in the freezing weather in DC with 50lbs of clothing on, I said to my sister, "The election of President Obama is going to bring out the best of people and the worst of people." Unfortunately I didn't realize it would be my team that would be screaming out against him the loudest.

Before any of you get it twisted, I am not saying that progressives(?) want the POTUS dead. OF COURSE NOT! But there are some on the other side that I truly feel want nothing good to come out of this presidency. And they use progressive Obama criticism as a cover for their hateful rhetoric.

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[Armstead]

3. Being honestly critical is not the same as "wanting no good"

Believe it or not, many of had very hopes for President Obasma, and it is painful when SOME of his actions are disappointing or counterproductive.

We honestly WANT him to succeed. But we also believe that certain principles, policies and values are more important than any individual.

[angee_is_mad]

4. I understand you completely

and I have taken note of you comments.

[Sherman A1]

8. Precisely

To say anything else is both divisive and dismissive of the opinions of Progressives. The man in the WH is a far, far cry from what the man on the campaign trail appeared to be. I understood that he was not as progressive as I wanted, but I hoped that he was not as conservative as he has come out to be.

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[Armstead]

16. There may be some who fall into that category, BUT.....

I think most of us who are critical want him to stay in office for all eight years -- but also want to see him work and push for the goals of liberalism and progressive policies.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Some were so busy criticizing Barack Obama everyday,

they didn't notice when the Teabaggers took over a whole lot of governorships...
and if the teabaggers are allowed to have it their way.....they will get rid of the Unions and make sure those purple states turn red just in time for 2012. After 2012, if Obama loses, there will not be another Democratic President for a real long time...cause the GOP will have control of the media, the money, the districting, the Internet and everything else. Plus, certain folks who knew better will opt out of politics for good. It is at that point that the folks, who were soooo busy yelling at the wrong person (cause they cared sooo much), will finally realize that they were who they were waiting for who instead just sat by pointing at one man, while letting others at it. And just so we understand, protest and such won't do a lick of good....because at that time, the media won't have to cover shit; and they wont.

[angee_is_mad]

6. Preach sista, preach

and thank you.

[Sherman A1]

9. Well, gee

I only get to vote in one state. How about You? I can only vote in Missouri, hence I have little impact on the elections in Wisconsin or elsewhere,

Just what would you have me do?????

[Armstead]

17. How about this as an alternative explanation?

The country was on a verge of a meltdown when Obama won and took office. The meltdown was the logical result of the GOP conservative policies of the last 30 year -- but also the result of the corporate friendly Democratic "centrists" who aided and abetted them.

President Obama had a great opportunity to change the terms of the political arena and stand up for and champion liberalism and progressivism. That could include the people in the middle and the conservative polulists who were sincerely bothered by the dominance of wealthy special interests who were not bigots and hardcore wingnuts.

Making the legitimate case for liberalism -- with no apologies -- could have gone a long way towards exposing the lies and fallacies of the Fox/GOP/Corporate teabag machine.

But instead we get more of the same corporate centrist message from too many Democratic leaders, and Obama's half-hearted messages.

That is one of the reasons then GOP were able to return from exile and ram through the same old crap while the Democrats continue to backtrack and waffle.

[polichick]

30. This is absolutely true...

It was a once-in-two-or-three-lifetimes opportunity to change the narrative and the direction of the country with a huge coalition of support.

[WolfoftheWild]

18. all I can say is "Fuck those people". They are as bad as the Teabaggers.

[impik]

7. It's not fare from the truth. Literally. There's a very deep hate towards this man

among "progressives". Very deep and very disturbing.

[Demit]

10. That's a broad brush you're painting with. Give us some examples of whom you're talking about.

What progressive has expressed deep hate? What was it they said that showed this deep hate? Just name two or three and quote what they said. Then we can judge for ourselves whether there's this very deep hate.

[WonderGrunion]

25. Any random posting by Hamsher at FDL would fit your requirement

Or did you want them to call out a post here at DU and break the rules for your satisfaction?

[These Eyes]

11. Some people will never be satisfied...

It's sad, depressing really, to come hear for the latest news and see nothing but post after post of sheer hatred masked as "costructive criticism". Even when there is a positive post about the president doing something progressives should applaud, it is still met with criticism.

By the way, I rec'ed this.

[polmaven]

13. Recommended!

Of course the whiners are very busy, so the thread will not make the greatest page, but it is very apparent that, in the eyes of many here, this president can do nothing right.

Even the first reply is telling you to shut up and sit down. How DARE you actually speak out against what is often hateful rhetoric?

[Bluenorthwest]

14. The President is opposed to equal rights for my family. You stand

With him, against us. He says straights are 'Sanctified by God' and that we are not, that we lack a 'spiritual element'. Claims a superiority for his group of people when compared to some minorities. That is called bigotry towards us. He carries prejudice toward his neighbors who are like me.
How dare you tell people that bigoted policy must not be criticized? That is offensive. Equal is equal. Deal with it. I am equal to you, you are not better, you are not 'sanctified' you are not 'blessed of God' any more than I am. Deal with it.

[jaxx]

21. The President supports equal rights for my family.

My family is your family. Some gay, some straight. I have tried to find the quote used "He says straights are 'Sanctified by God' and that we are not, that we lack a 'spiritual element'." and I only one source...a DU post by you. Can you point me to that quote by President Obama? I would like to read what he said.

Thanks.

[WonderGrunion]

26. Obama has done more for Gay rights than all previous presidents

combined.

He's the "Father of GLBTQI Rights" in America.

[Clio the Leo]

15. People on the internet like to complain...

..... it's rampant because of the degree of anonymity the 'net provides. I think what you were seeing seven years ago was not so much a common cause, but a common venue to complain. ;) Some folks were legit. upset with Bush, some folks have a legitimate libertarian bend and found DU because a Republican was in office. Still here, they still hate the government but there's a new guy in town.

But they are in the minority. Take comfort in that. ;)

[TheKentuckian]

19. Sit in silence as our guy works against us to limit the cover for the opposition is weak sauce.

Obama is giving his enemies aid and comfort by legitimizing their failed ideology and enacting their absurd policies.

Blubbering about criticism from the left in light of the President's own level of collusion and enabling is beyond pitiful.

[jaxx]

22. Pitiful is saying PBO is giving his enemies aid and comfort.

The Democratic base doesn't think the President is working against us. We know he is working for us and the country as a whole.

[TheKentuckian]

28. What a bunch of followers "thinks" is neither here nor there in regards to actual events.real

Of course the base being arguably a collection of bankers, pharmaceutical companies, Big Carbon, the MIC, Republicans, and personality cultist-he may well be representing his "base".

[Wait Wut]

20. I have to calm down sometimes.

I've gone on a rant about "Progressives" on occasion. But, I know many older Progressives that are still very supportive of our President and truly understand what he's up against. They keep reminding me that they aren't the neo-Progressives of today and that I need to be more tolerant.

I try. I avoid a lot of threads just because of subject lines. Sometimes, though...I just can't help it. I truly support the left agenda 100% (all of it), but I refuse to be blind to policy and procedure. It isn't healthy for the country and it will get us nowhere. Pushing things through without scrutiny makes it easier for "them" to bury it when they get back in power...which will eventually happen, no matter how much we bitch. It will be easier for them to do when so many on our own side protest with their non-votes or protest votes.

I think my intolerance comes from my past. I was one of those "Progressives" throughout my 20s and well into my 30s. I became disillusioned and overwhelmed and quit all of it. I came back as a Moderate/Liberal 5 years ago.

[apocalypsehow]

23. I stand with President Obama - as do the vast majority of my fellow progressives. Thank you for the

OP. :thumbsup:

[MadHound]

24. Disingenuous post,

You're essentially accusing an unspecified number of people, both here and elsewhere, of being stealth 'Pugs/conservatives/teabaggers who are criticizing Obama from the left while secretly working for his demise.

Perhaps you need to recognize the simple fact that the vast overwhelming majority of people who are criticizing Obama from the left actually do want some good to come out of his presidency, but are disgusted that we are seeing so very little.

[WonderGrunion]

27. And you should realize that the vast overwhelming majority

of people criticizing Obama from the left are actually a vastly underwhelming minority of voting Americans, or even voting Democrats for that matter.

[ruggerson]

29. Roland Martin? Seriously?

n/t

[hughee99]

31. Is there a single Obama detractor out there looking forward to "president Biden"? n/t