Is Matt Damon saying Obama has done too much or not enough? I'm confused

[LeftyAndProud60]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/matt-damon-calls-out-obama_n_830533.html

[madfloridian]

1. He' s pretty clear about Obama and education...doesn't like what he is doing.

"Now, he's not so enthused about Obama. When asked if he was happy with the way the President is running the country, Damon said, point blank, "no."

"I really think he misinterpreted his mandate. A friend of mine said to me the other day, I thought it was a great line, 'I no longer hope for audacity,'" Damon said. "He's doubled down on a lot of things, going back to education... the idea that we're testing kids and we're tying teachers salaries to how kids are performing on tests, that kind of mechanized thinking has nothing to do with higher order. We're training them, not teaching them."

[vaberella]

6. His statement is not about education itself. He spoke on a general scale.

Education is just one part of it.

[madfloridian]

15. I quoted his words on Obama's education policy.

"going back to education... the idea that we're testing kids and we're tying teachers salaries to how kids are performing on tests, that kind of mechanized thinking has nothing to do with higher order. We're training them, not teaching them."

[Fearless]

33. +1000

[Fearless]

107. +1000

[jody]

2. Yes but who the hell is Matt Damon and why should I allow him/her to speak for me? n/t

[vaberella]

7. DU cares a great deal about what Celebrities do and say. I have no clue why. n/t

[jody]

8. Could it be that some need others to think for them? n/t

[provis99]

9. yes, anonymous poster; your opinion matters more.

:eyes:

[jody]

11. anonymous poster? Please explain yourself. n/t

[provis99]

13. why should I pay attention to the posting of an anonymous blogger

rather than a politically thoughtfully and educated celebrity like Matt Damon? It is the content of commentary that matters, not who the commentator is, and so far, I have read thoughtful reasoning from Matt Damon, and snark from you. So who should I pay attention to?

[jody]

22. "politically thoughtfully and educated celebrity" ROFL

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[Jakes Progress]

39. Dupe

[Wait Wut]

103. You haven't heard?

Damon 2012?

Yyyyyyyyyep. 'Cause he's educated and thoughtful and stuff.

[OwnedByFerrets]

36. +1 Thank you

[karynnj]

14. I would address the comments - not the messenger

The things he is saying about education match what I have read from some people on education. I think it is crazy that my kids in one grade in middle school had a new added class that did NOTHING but train kids to do well in a standardized test. This class was given to all kids and part of the reason was that there were peculiar things that excellent students might not do as they wanted.

This had two costs - it bored many kids out of their minds when they were doing work they did years before and it took up time where more creative things could have been done. (All I know is that I felt sorry for the teachers teaching that all day!)

On the writing test, the results for my three kids were strange. They were all very good writers - and one was exceptional. The other two got the advanced pass. That one, who also simultaneously got the English prize for the grade, got a regular pass. Why? They were taught that an essay should have 5 paragraphs and each paragraph should have a rigid form. The other two used the formula taught - which they mocked - that daughter refused and lost points.

In NJ, the idea that the districts had to show improvement - even when they started out with very high pass rates, led to some years where the mix of kids in the grade led to them doing worse and "failing" - often due to a year where there were simply a higher number of special needs kids. This while at the same time their average SAT scores were impressive.

[StarsInHerHair]

61. we are moving to the type of schooling that Asia was known for & Asia is

now moving towards a more "American" style of education because they found it helped foster problem-solving better than cramming & rote memorizing data for some test. http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200206/28/eng20020628_98747.shtml

old link but "..."Quality education", which means everything but the old emphasis on unity, rote learning and ignoring mental development, has become a fashionable term among educators and ordinary people.

The stress of having to recite every word of a textbook is a result of the distorted civil servant examination system that existed in China for hundreds of years. It gained further ground in modern China in the fierce competition for limited college places.

Though that same factor still exists today, more and more people have realized that to succeed in a business-oriented society, one has to be creative, adaptive and co-operative. It's better for you to have good professional skills, and even better if you have special talents."....

[karynnj]

66. Ugh - what a horrible move

I had my kids in a Montessori school for part of their early years. They feel that though they left at different ages - after 1st, 2nd, and 4th respectively, that those years led them to have the ability to learn, write and be creative. My husband and I chose Montessori because of its basis in accepting different mental development.

To me rote learning is useless - as it will likely be forgotten as soon as the test is taken. It also would seem to make learning anything a boring task. Years ago, because I worked at Bell Labs, I was lucky enough to take my oldest daughter to what I think was the first "take your daughter (though sons were explicitly welcome as well) to work day". The person coordinating it was able to get the then President, Arno Penzias to speak to the kids (and their parents). He was great and he told kids that science was not memorizing facts for a test, but, for example, physics was figuring out why everything worked as it does. It was the only time I ever heard him speak and I was as impressed as my daughter. Penzias and others that day were able to get the kids excited about learning about science. Years later, one teacher another daughter had was able to create that same interest in learning and understanding in a high school science class.

A class learning facts could never do that - and kids would be the worse for it. The best would turn to books and other media and learn on their own - the worst could simply never develop any intellectual curiosity.

[StarsInHerHair]

92. yeah first 'no child left behind' now Obama's education crap......it won't work

because it's already failed in Asia. That seems to be a major pattern though, willfully taking a known path to failure, here & in the UK too, probably more nations as well

[Me.]

17. He Doesn't Claim To Be Speaking For Anyone But Himself

And answering a question posed in an interview so why the umbrage?

[Bluenorthwest]

24. What tripe that is. Why should it offend you that he should speak

for himself, just as you, I and all concerned Americans do? In what way is one man's opinion you 'allowing him to speak for you'? Explain. Must all be silent so that you might speak? Or just Damon?

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[treestar]

84. +1000

[Hell Hath No Fury]

86. He's the guy who backed Obama early and ferociously -

http://www.hollyscoop.com/matt-damon/matt-damons-dedicated-to-obama_18187.aspx

It’s no secret that Matt Damon is a Barack Obamasupporter. And now, with only weeks left before election day, Matt has pledged his total support for Obama, saying he’ll do whatever it takes to help him win.

Matt is heading down to Florida this weekend to work with the Obama campaign on promoting the November 4 vote in a key state. Damon’s flying straight from there to Morocco to work on a movie, but Damon promises to stay in contact with the campaign in case there is anything else he can do.

He says, "I'm sure I'll be on the phone over there after filming every night. I'll do telephone interviews or whatever they'll have me do. I want to sprint to the finish with the millions of us who really have been desperate for this change.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20081027/news/810270971



CORAL GABLES, Fla. – College students in South Florida are being treated to some star power, a week before Election Day.

Movie star Matt Damon of the "Bourne Identity" series is scheduled to stop by the University of Miami on Monday to speak to students about early voting. Jason Alexander, known better as George on the TV sitcom "Seinfeld," is slated to attend a rally at Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton.

Both are supporters of Democrat Barack Obama.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/13/matt-damon-ben-affleck-jo_n_91353.html

MoveOn.org joined forces today with Academy Award-winners Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and Oliver Stone, multiple Grammy-winner John Legend and author Naomi Wolf to announce a new ad contest, "Obama in 30 Seconds." The contest provides a platform for Obama supporters to show in 30-second spots what inspires them about the Senator's candidacy. MoveOn will buy time to run the winning ad on national television.


But what the fuck does he know about Obama, right? :eyes:






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[tridim]

3. Damon is entirely free to run for office.

Until then, Obama has 6 years left in which to fix the decades of crap left in his lap.

[Uzybone]

25. +1000

or maybe he can act as president in a movie...

[Kennah]

4. Maybe he was smoking Charlie Sheen, but it could be worse. He could be doing a line of Koch.

[JVS]

58. He'd have died if he had been smoking Charlie Sheen.

[vaberella]

5. I thought he was pretty clear. He said he feels Obama is not who he voted for.

My question is why do we care?!

[frylock]

10. if he were praising obama, would you feel the same?

[vaberella]

16. Yes...because I just generally dislike celebrities.

I think they're over-payed, over-priced idiots who waste public time and energy. I have always disliked them, since I was a teenager. I was hoping very hard that reality tv would destroy the incestuous relations in Hollywood---then I realized all these reality tv idiots are just like the other ones---over-payed buffoons.

Don't assume because I support the President that I'm easily categorized. It's something I bloody hate and most people find they can't really do with me. I also didn't care for when George Clooney was all up in DU when he was supporting Obama. <---Why do we care about him? Fuckin' "actors"---please. They should get massive pay cuts.

It's another reason why I don't subscribe to economists. People assume that I'm one of those people who supports posts of Economists, and next minute throw them under the bus when they don't. No, I just generally think they are playing a game of craps and sometimes they win and sometimes they lose. But I don't think they know jack shit (I have an MA in Economcs...all of my teachers were playing guessing games.)

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Yeah...so no...it has nothing about praising Obama or not.

[provis99]

18. so you're prejudiced against celebrities. OK.

Obama's a celebrity too. Is he an overpayed buffoon?

[vaberella]

21. You define the President as a celebrity? Really.

That sounds like a Republican meme. Well I only heard that sort of description for the President from Freepers or on Fox News. He may be popular and can pull in numbers for speeches. Doesn't mean he's a celebrity. But it's whatever. A celebrity to me is people who are making millions-to billions in television, music, and movies. A popular public servant no. Was Bush a celebrity? Did we ever equate him to one?! I have no qualms in stating that I have prejudices against celebrities. I see them no more interesting than the single mom from Queensbridge with 2 kids. However, they're getting paid for producing crap. Then I have to come to a political forum to hear what they think about so and so. I'm more interested in the mom from Queensbridge with her 2 kids.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. You define the artist Damon as a celebrity rather than as an

actor, award winning writer, producer, activist, Union member or son of teachers, when he is all of these, and his fame comes from his art and work, so if he's a 'celebrity' so is any President or elected official or anyone well known for any reason. It is not like Damon is famous for nothing, he's acclaimed for his work. What is the exact problem with being well known for one's work?
Barack Obama's millions come from his work as a writer, not as a 'public servant'. He goes on Leno. Deal with it.

[vaberella]

31. Uh..you---do not tell me to deal with anything.

You are nothing to me but another poster on this thread. So to tell me to deal with anything is outside of your power. But it's whatever.

He's an artist? That's subjective---but then art is. And most of his art, I don't like nor do I care about. He's a celebrity and I don't waste my time on celebrity. Whenver I saw Obama going on Leno. It was not to promote his new movie, or tv show or what not. Wait..does he go to promote anything to sell...cause that's what most celebrities do. Unless health care debate falls into the same group as a new movie..okay then. Anyway---once again. I find it a right wing meme when it's said Obama is a celebrity. Since they're totally not on the same wave length.

Why are we even on about this. I don't care about celebrities, I don't really care what they think since mere citizens don't get the time they get to complain or to gush over things. The main issue of the poster who even started this discussion with me was to think s/he could back me into some wall---as though I'm some devotee to Obama that I am willing to throw anyone under a bus. When I state I don't give a fuck about celebrities and I mean really don't care---I get comments from you. Why?

It's not that I want celebrities dead. I just don't want to hear them. Many on here don't want to hear when people like Jamie Dimon takes the helm. I don't see people screaming, you're prejudice against bankers. I think they're over paid people who produce nothing of value. I always have. Well I guess escapism is of some value for some people. And if you happen to be wondering why I posted here---because it boggles me that it's posted on DU.

After Palin- nonsense that I was glad is no longer here. I count her as someone who went from being a public servant to being a celebrity. I come to see this stuff on DU. Once again, I'd like to hear from the single mum in Queensbridge and her problems with the President.

[Jakes Progress]

41. Whoa. Got touched I see.

Did somebody get thrown over for a celeb?

It's called prejudice when you lump everyone of a certain identity as having the same characteristics. That you see palin and Damon as being the same tells us a lot about the quality of your thinking.

(Did you really say that you thought of sarah palin as being a public servant?) And there is nothing stopping you from signing off from DU and going out to actually talk to the mother in Queensbridge if you want. i highly suggest you follow your desires that way.

[vaberella]

55. Touched?

Hardly, I just don't appreciate people telling me what to do, or think or to presume things about me. I notice the affliction is common on DU and I have had many people presume much about me.

I never stated that I see Palin and Damon as inherently the same. Damon was never a politician that turned into a celebrity. He's just a celebrity. I clearly stated that. And I also stated that I find that both of them are celebrities. That is about the same. However---if that means that I equate them as the same people--maybe. I definitely don't care much about either of their opinions---if that's what you mean.

And yes, Sarah Palin was a public servant. I don't play favorites. Before she entered the "hollywood"-esque political limelight where she's on Hannity and making book deals and all of that jazz. She was doing fine in her state and you can say what you want but people in general liked the woman. Or she wouldn't have had such a high favor-ability rating as she did.

Another one telling me what to do? When I lived in New York---I worked in Queensbridge and talked to them. Right now I'm unfortunately not in the country. But I still talk to the indigent and work in the area to help. Celebrities are just not my interest when I come on DU.

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[Starbucks Anarchist]

98. Celebrities are entertainers.

Obama is not an entertainer. Get it?

[Union Scribe]

99. Bull. They get elected by being entertainers.

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[ProSense]

12. "This is not the man he voted for."

That's such a stupid, overused line. Who did he think he was voting for? He disagrees with the President's education policy so that means the President is a different man?

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Now, he's not so enthused about Obama. When asked if he was happy with the way the President is running the country, Damon said, point blank, "no."

"I really think he misinterpreted his mandate. A friend of mine said to me the other day, I thought it was a great line, 'I no longer hope for audacity,'" Damon said. "He's doubled down on a lot of things, going back to education... the idea that we're testing kids and we're tying teachers salaries to how kids are performing on tests, that kind of mechanized thinking has nothing to do with higher order. We're training them, not teaching them.

For the full interview, tune into Damon and the rest of the cast of the new film, "The Adjustment Bureau" on "Piers Morgan Tonight" at 9 PM EST on Thursday.

What the hell does all that mean?

:rofl:

The whole thing reads like a publicity stunt, especially on HuffPo.

[LeftyAndProud60]

19. all of that was confusing as hell. But I love the Bourne movies. Conflicted. NT

[CreekDog]

34. conflicted about Damon? WTF?

you mean whether you agree with him 100%?

you don't. you don't agree with anybody, including Obama 100%

does that conflict you?

sheesh. Damon isn't even running for anything. why do his opinions need to sync perfectly with yours?

:crazy:

[ReggieVeggie]

38. what do his movies have to do with him?

I like the Terminator films but that doesn't mean I think much of Schwarzeneggers political opinion.

[CreekDog]

49. I think Schwarzenegger's movies prove that he has metal

:hi:

[vaberella]

20. He's a celebrity.

I'm always surprised they can string words together. I rarely if ever, really understand what they're saying. The only one I did get was Tom Cruise and that's terrifying. He's surprisingly lucid when talking about Scientology.

I find the whole thing stupid anyway..celebrities are like any other Americans, overall fickle and have no conception at times of the political climate.

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[vaberella]

53. A person with an opinion. Who doesn't really care for his opinion. ^_^ n/t

[Jakes Progress]

42. Dupe

[Jakes Progress]

43. So you hate celebrities and all other Americans too?

Sounds like you're having a mel gibson/charlie sheen moment over this thread.

[vaberella]

54. Did I say I hate other Americans? Hardly---But I do say I don't care for celebrities. Never have.

They go from being very self-centered to a range of different things. I'm sure if Matt Damon said something conservative you'd all be shunning him to high heaven.

[Jakes Progress]

89. Do you read your own posts? Here is what you said:

"celebrities are like any other Americans, overall fickle and have no conception at times of the political climate."

Maybe you didn't use the word hate. I guess I was wrong. You love people who are fickle and have no conception of the political climate. Those are your heroes.

When you go off the deep end, don't complain when someone tells you you're in over your head.

[paulk]

48. celebrities aren't like other Americans

especially when they were bigtime supporters like Mr. Damon was.

His words have influence among those who do care what celebrities say.

[vaberella]

56. Everyone says that...this is the MAIN reason why I reject them.

It's a sad state of affairs when we see celebrities are having enough power to influence the masses and it's even sadder when we cosign to this. This is ultimately the reasons why I reject celebrities. People think I do it because I hate them as people. It's far deeper than that. I hate the influence and power they have---when I find them over payed and at times over priced. While there should be regular Americans----one regular American should have that power. They are one person and are given so much breadth. It's not fair. It takes hundreds of us to even do one of what they do. It's disgusting really. They are given that platform that every other American seems to lack. Who is not a celebrity. It annoys me.

[CreekDog]

35. Damon probably thought he was voting for Democratic policies

apparently you think he is stupid for making that assumption.

:rofl:

[ProSense]

69. No,

I'm not a fan of people who thought they were voting for someone who never existed.

Like I said, it's one thing to disagree with the President's education policy, but who did Damon believe he was voting for?

Based on Damon's statement, it's he who seems to have misunderstood the President's policy and goals.

[Badfish]

79. tell it.

[Ramulux]

23. Glad someone is talking about this

Obama's record on education is abysmal and it rarely gets mentioned enough.

[ClarkUSA]

27. Maybe he's been influenced by Justin Bieber's recent condemnation of "evil" America!

After all, celebrities can be so trendy. :rofl:

[Jakes Progress]

44. Like your favorite celebrity.

The one in the WH? That trend is moving right.

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[ClarkUSA]

80. Are you referring to Hillary?

That description is very apt, but hasn't she always been "to the right" since her "Goldwater Girl" days?

[Jakes Progress]

90. Golly. Did you miss what happened in the last presidential election?

See. Hillary isn't president. She didn't win the primary. (Still love dragging up those old glory days, don't you?)

What? Did you hit on her once and get rebuffed? Your animas is showing.

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[namahage]

32. And you know this...how?

Remind me again who this is about? Because we ALL know what would happen if it had been Obama who said this...

http://outfrontblog.com/2007/08/matt-damon-the-%E2%80%9Cgay%E2%80%9D-jeep-cherokee-and-why-words-matter.html

How surprised I was, then, to read his quotes about the time following his big pay-off from Good Will Hunting. He and co-star Ben Affleck had been talking about buying black Jeep Cherokees, but hadn’t had the cash until their breakthrough film. “So when we suddenly had the money, we each instantly started trying to convince each other to get a different car,” Damon tells GQ. “We’d say, ‘Hey, have you seen the Explorer? The Ford Explorer is really cool.’ Because we knew it would just be so gay to get the same car. And our friends were making fun of us. Like, ‘You fags, what are you doing, you’re gonna drive around in the same car? Are they gonna say His and His on them?’”

Now, I’ve been a fan of Damon’s for a while, and have appreciated his work, including his guest appearance on NBC’s Will & Grace, which lent a star name to the popular gay-themed TV show. So why would a successful movie actor, savvy enough to measure his every word in the presence of a reporter’s tape recorder, mindful of protecting the sanctity of his own marriage, go off and use such derogatory language toward gay people? Wasn’t Damon mindful of the embarrassment some stars face for their anti-gay comments, like Isaiah Washington, who was ultimately fired from Grey’s Anatomy for his choice of words?

But hey...maybe Damon was just being "honest and thoughtful."

[stevenleser]

45. < crickets>...

What? No Obama critics want to wade into the homophobia enabling muck to defend Damon now? I'm surprised. So there are limits to how low some will go to attack Obama. That has never been clear until now.

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[stevenleser]

52. One instance is 20 years ago, one is 4 years ago. One was apologized for, the other not

Guess which is which?

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[Armstead]

37. I can just see it if there is a headline: "George Clooney says Obamna is great President"....

I can just imaging how those who are poo-pooing what Damon said would change their tune about the merits of celebrity opinions, and how they would be rushing to post Clooney's statement.

[vaberella]

59. I'd roll my eyes and ask--why do we care! I love him too- I get no headline. n/t

[Armstead]

76. If you are willing to be that consistent, that's fine.

[paulk]

47. plenty of room left under the bus, Matt

LOL

[Starry Messenger]

50. Matt Damon never really loved him!

:cry:

[PVnRT]

81. He just wants his pony from Sarah Palin....something about quit whining, et cetera

[QC]

94. Matt Damon thinks he's a king! And has a magic wand!

:cry:

[obamafourmore]

51. Next election just around the corner. He can run for office himself, or just vote for the

excellent Republican candidate.

[bigwillq]

75. So we can't have an opinion unless we run for office?

Is that what you're saying?

[obamafourmore]

60. Someone should tell Damon about the difference between Hollywood and real life

[ReggieVeggie]

62. maybe he knows more about it than you do

Why does everyone assume that if you work in Hollywood your views on things are skewed by your profession?

[obamafourmore]

70. Because clearly he was looking for a magician, not a president who is dealing

with some of the biggest problems this country ever faced.

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[Badfish]

64. I would need to talk to him more...

but I found most people that have a problem with Obama are confused on the issues.

[Rebubula]

67. Perhaps it is you...

..that is confused.

I have many problems with President Obama. He is against homosexual marriage and continues the war policies of a failed and criminal administration. Wall Street is more important to him than Main Street.

However, he is my President and I will vote for him again, but to say that all is well in the White House is myopic at best.

[Badfish]

68. really ?

Obama is 'staying the course' on the wars ? ...just picking up where Bush left off ?

6 months ago there were 50,000 US troops left in Iraq , Bush had 150,000 troops there when he left.

Maybe it's YOU who is confused.

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[TheKentuckian]

108. Swapping troops for mercenaries isn't an improvement, it makes bad worse.

Don't play this game. It is dangerous, stupid, and slow witted.

[JoePhilly]

65. I wonder what Charile Sheen thinks about what Matt Damon said.

[dionysus]

71. IF HES LOST MATT DAMON WE'RE DOOMED..

:eyes:

[treestar]

85. ..

:rofl:

[robcon]

74. Who cares what an actor thinks?

They're good at pretending to be someone else. What's that got to do with anything important?

[ReggieVeggie]

82. like presidents?

They pretend with every utterance out of their mouths.

[WolfoftheWild]

77. The Bourne Idiocy

[liam_laddie]

78. Matt Damon influence

:eyes:
I'm constantly amazed and disappointed that many posters here conflate an actor's artificial persona, created out a career in film/stage/recording, with the authentic working human who actually IS the person under examination.
Damon, a Harvard English major, dropped out before receiving a degree to pursue a budding acting career. He is a smart, committed activist whose opinions and causes are progressive. Any celebrity with a sizable following has a sort of bully pulpit from which they're able to command attention. They will use that to promote their causes and beliefs.
The many petty, dismissive comments in this thread speak more of the prejudice or ignorance of the posters, than to the true content of Damon's remarks and his considered opinions. He is a member of several humanitarian causes of both national and global focus. He should not be so cavalierly dissed. If you actually disagree with him, simply say so and add the what&why of YOUR stance...

[ReggieVeggie]

83. +1...people are attacking Damon because he's not lavishing praise on Obama

If he was, they'd (most) would just as readily defend him

[bigwillq]

97. Good post.

:thumbsup:

[uponit7771]

106. Damon is another that thinks Obama is a king and can do what he wants without congress. Without...

...balancing his disappointments of Obama with Obama's lack of congressional support he seems like another basher.

[Autumn]

87. Damn him!! He never liked Obama to begin with.

How dare he open his mouth about the President. Dirty young Hollywood hippy.

[QC]

93. He just wants Sarah Palin. n/t

[Uta]

91. Matt Damon

should stick to acting.

[bigwillq]

96. Hello.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Brother Buzz]

95. Matt is a Commie Pinko that was influenced by his childhood mentor, the Marxist bastard, Howard Zinn

Perhaps that is why I like Matt Damon and tolerate his rants.

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[namahage]

101. For comparison purposes:

One year ago:

Tom Hanks: "I think the President of the United States is doing a SPECTACULAR job...."

In case anyone wants refutation of the lie that only Obama supporters will attack an actor's profession...

[Number23]

102. Exactly. And notice the folks in that thread attacking Hanks

are the same folks attacking the folks criticizing Damon in this one.

Too many people here have issues. Why anyone would care what an actor thinks about anything shows the utter shallowness of thought that passes for "discussion" around here nowadays.

[ReggieVeggie]

104. You should have seen the threads praising Damon for his Obama support in 08

There's all kinds of situational opprobrium every other day on any given issue.

[Number23]

109. Judging by the # of your posts in this thread, this is obviously something very important to you.

[ReggieVeggie]

111. I simply find it hilarious how political winds shift so readily

Look at the Tweety thread in political videos...he says something that most on this board might agree and suddenly everybody forgets all the fucked up things he's said over the years

Matt Damon was an avid Obama supporter, and now that he's critical, all the sudden he's just an ignorant celebrity who's opinion isn't important. It's laughable.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

110. I don't agree with what he is saying

but I gather that he is saying that Obama isn't doing as much as he thinks he should be done/should have done by now and too much on things he shouldn't be (i.e. education). That's as close to a translation as I've been able to figure out. :shrug:

[hulka38]

112. An academy award winning actor

believing Obama's performance in 2008 makes me feel better about my own naivete.