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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:13 PM Original message |
Of course he'll win. Is that really the point? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. His winning is the only way we continue the march of *progress*. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That's not true and it's been more of a crawl than a march, often in the wrong direction. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I think a slow steady crawl is the only way to more forward given the circumstances. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. That's assuming a progressiive agenda is contrary to the interests of most people and that |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Perhaps if given a clear focused honest choice but that is not happening.. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I think it can. In the meantime I see little cause for enthusiasm. |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
34. if Obama doesn't win then a Repuke does. and progress comes to a screeching halt. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. You didn't support this President even before he moved a foot |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. One step forward, two steps back. Yep, that's progress - in the wrong direction. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. This country is far more progressive than it was 3 years ago. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. The country is far more progressive than it was three years ago, I just wish our president was. n/t |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Our President has supported all the progressive changes that have occurred. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Credit is given where credit is deserved. Obama's failed to delivered on his most sweeping |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 05:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Actually I think you are mistaken on what candidate Obama meant about being "transformational" |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Best shots don't count. Results are what matter. n/t |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. President Obama has probably accomplished more than any other President in their first 2 years.. |
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lindalou65 (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Indeed he has accomplished more than he is given credit |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Tell that to Arizona, Wisconsin, Ohio, Texas, etc. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I am talking about from a national level.. |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
35. tell that to the gays in the army, or the kids getting healthcare, or the people getting jobs |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Gays in the military was going to happen no matter which Democrat won the White House. Same with |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. As always, he gets no credit for anything. "It was going to |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Out of the people who ran for the Democratic candidacy, which of them would not have supported |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. To far too many, yes that is the point. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. So glad you said that. I fully expect him to win, but as you say, that's not the point. (nt) |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not 'for' neoliberalism - coming in a mild form from dems |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama will not win in 2012... |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Don't worry, you are. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. You are so wrong it's laughable. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. I HOPE SO! |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. I can't imagine anyone... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Think idiot son in 2004; I didn't think that was possible either. nt |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. Certainly it is the point. Politics is a zero sum game. And Obama is GOLDEN compared to the RePUKES |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. It's not a game at all unless you reduce it to a track meet. |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. until you get your ass kicked. then it feels like you lost a game. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Are you trapped in a metaphor? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yes, it is absolutely the point. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. A list is not a legacy. A President should not be a list maker. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. What's the OP's point: |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Does the point elude you? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "The re-election is a done deal. Rest easy, SCOTUS is safe." |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yes, sadly he does know. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "So, carry on with |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Perhaps you could rewrite that post, without distortion this time. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
21. You hit on an important point -- The perpetual campaigns is destructive |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. Winning is the point |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
29. Those clownish republicans. The underestimating begins. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Boo! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Oh, I'm sure you don't underestimate them..... |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
31. To a small, post-heavy contingent here, I'm pretty sure that's the only point. |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
32. Don't blame Obama..... |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
37. I remember almost the exact same words |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I'm sure you realize that Bush was a sitting president in 2004 |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Of course, and I argued that point |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yes, it is if we really care who is on the Supreme Court and blocking all |
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