Hey, aren't these programs being cut the same ones we were told were saved by the tax cuts for...

[ClassWarrior]

...the rich?

NGU.

[ProSense]

1. No, but

it's a good thing that House Republicans didn't have unemployment benefits to hold hostage.

[ClassWarrior]

7. They didn't need it, apparently.

Sit! Beg! Roll over! Good Beltway Dem!

NGU.

[vaberella]

18. Whatever...it seems to me, some Dems are willing to hurt the little people for vengeance.

Because if you say this is "Sit! Beg! Roll over! Good Beltway Dem!" Then you're completely ignoring what extending or aiding a potential shut down by your statements---can really do.

[ClassWarrior]

33. So you have a problem with hurting little people via a temporary shutdown, but hurting them with...

...permanent cuts to essential programs is just ducky?

:crazy:

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

34. ?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

2. Back then, people said they were essential. Now the same people say they're just a measly...

...0.01% of the federal budget.

NGU.

[dkf]

3. The tax cuts saved no programs, they saved the tax cuts and that is it.

[ClassWarrior]

5. And that's becoming ever more clear.

NGU.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. No.

[ClassWarrior]

6. Oh, these are different needy people who will be harmed by the cuts, so that makes 'em okay?

NGU.

[Drunken Irishman]

8. As opposed to those who would've been harmed by the shutdown.

I guess that's okay, though.

[ClassWarrior]

9. So you prefer permanent harm to temporary harm? How long did the government...

...stay shut down in the 90s before Newty was brought to his bony white knees?

:eyes:

NGU.

[vaberella]

19. How would you know it's temporary? Do you have a crystal ball we don't know about?

Americans voted these clowns in Congress in for at least 2 years. And Repubs are still getting pushed by American citizens. How in the hell can you say it's temporary. <----And it's the fact of the unknown which causes certain actions.

[ClassWarrior]

31. So if the Rape-Publicans try to shut down the government permanently, how is that bad for us?

:eyes:

Do you even think before you post?

NGU.

[Exilednight]

10. Who exactly would of been harmed. Give us the facts, or are you making

stuff up?

SS checks would of still gone out. The military would of gotten their funding. You'd still get your mail, police would still patrol the streets, firemen would still be putting out fires and life would of been just fine.

[johnaries]

11. For one thing, military families. Not the mission, the families at home.

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=who+would+a+government+shutdown+hurt#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=government+shutdown+hurt+military+families&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=e9ce1e11ecd3b0b1

Not to mention the economy itself.

[Exilednight]

12. The economy would of sputtered along just fine. We've had shutdowns before

and emerged in decent shape. Reagan shutdown the government in the midst of the worst recession, which up to that point, was the worse since the great depression.

[zigzag69]

13. Yes, we would have been just fine.

In past shutdowns federal employees got their back pay. It only affected those living paycheck to paycheck, but even they could get no-interest loans.

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[polmaven]

14. Why ar you convinced

that Social Security checks would HAVE been mailed? ...(note: HAVE, not OF)

[Exilednight]

15. Social Security is not funded by the current bill. They're funded from a seperate pool and

would suffer no major ramifications in a government shutdown.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0408/Government-shutdown-101-Will-Social-Security-and-Medicare-be-affected

A true shutdown of the federal government could be a worrying moment for seniors, who would face the prospect of a sudden disapearance of Social Security income and Medicare coverage.

Thankfully, that's not what would occur, even if a budget deadlock causes a so-called "government shutdown" to begin at midnight on April 8.

Politicians, after all, know that retirees are counting on Social Security and Medicare. And, oh yes, they vote.


These programs are viewed as essential services that would continue to make payments even as many other federal operations halt. And unlike typical federal programs, these mandatory entitlements have their own streams of revenue from payroll taxes, which require no congressional vote to authorize.

Still, even as these high-priority programs continue to make payments for beneficiaries, a shutdown might force them to pare back on staffing levels. That could mean that some phones go unanswered, and that new enrollees face delays in getting benefits launched.

Edit: I find it amusing that I am receiving grammar lessons from someone who misspelled "are".

[polmaven]

16. So you will

equate an obvious typo with an error which was repeated several times in one short post.......OK.

Oh, and thank you for the link.

[Exilednight]

17. Glass houses, and you are welcome. n/t

[mkultra]

21. i dont think you understand what a "tax cut" is.

[ClassWarrior]

22. I don't think you understand the OP.

Either that, or you're deliberately being oblique. Either way, knock yourself out! :hi:

NGU.

[mkultra]

23. If your refering to the deal they struck

the answer you are looking for is that the deal was for an extension of Unemployment insurance.

[ClassWarrior]

24. Yes. So what's your point?

Which people in need is it okay to cut?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

25. ?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

26. .

[ClassWarrior]

27. .

[ClassWarrior]

29. .

[ClassWarrior]

30. .

[ClassWarrior]

32. .

[ProudDad]

28. Voila!

Don't mind the man behind the curtain...