BREAKING ON TWITTER: Anthony Weiner has seen Obama's plan and "LIKES WHAT HE SEES"!!!

[wndycty]

"@RepWeiner Looking at embargoed fact sheet on Potus plan. Not allowed to tell you about it yet. #ButMyHashtagLikesWhatHeSees"

http://twitter.com/#!/RepWeiner/statuses/58194701542629376



I guess some on our side who want to bash Obama are in for a disappointing day.

[hlthe2b]

1. with all respect to Weiner, I'll feel better if Bernie Sanders...

says that he "likes what he sees." :shrug:

[krawhitham]

36. Is he a democrat?

then I do not give a shit what he thinks

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[Dokkie]

42. lol

i guess the only requirement is a D at the end off your name. Because according to those standards, Evah bayh is more of a democrat than Bernie Sander.

[hlthe2b]

45. with that attitude towards Sanders, I'd say many feel the same...

about YOU. :eyes:

Sanders is what Democrats USED to be.... A true progressive and true populist.

[GillesDeleuze]

52. THIS SOCIALIST DEM DOES. i echo the sentiment.

When Bernie's onboard..

[pacalo]

60. He caucuses with the Democrats, & in many ways, his priorities interest me far more

than anyone else's with a "D" behind their name. And he's not afraid to stand on the front line on our behalf.

[Donnachaidh]

64. wow -- that's so big tent of you!

I think the other place has more like-minded individuals. :eyes:

[Renew Deal]

57. You're kidding right?

:banghead:

[hlthe2b]

62. Hardly.. Sanders is a hard core populist progressive

Weiner is a more pragmatic progressive, sometimes leftist and sometimes more centrist. So slam your head until you knock some sense in it. When it comes to protecting Medicare and SS, it is the Bernie Sanders and the Al Frankens that have been strongest on that issue. Weiner is a good guy with whom I agree on most issues. This isn't a knock on him.

How's that headache, now, eh?

[Renew Deal]

66. You know that Lieberman opposed the "public option" because Weiner supported it?

He's this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O_GRkMZJn4

and this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBqtyvn7OVw

Now I might be prejudiced since Weiner is a fellow NYer, but he's as reliable if not more-so than Bernie Sanders.

[hlthe2b]

67. Why, when we are discussing Weiner v Sanders...

do you think it germaine to bring up that Lieberman is 180 degrees to Weiner?

Kindly go re-read my posts. I have not suggested that I do not have tremendous respect/support for Weiner. We are comparing between two of the very best of liberal/progressives--not between a "liarman" and a true consistent progressive.

[ecstatic]

69. And Weiner goes under the bus!

[hlthe2b]

72. How exactly does Weiner go under that bus? Can you not read?

At all? I said, "with all respect to Weiner." I further said "Weiner is a more pragmatic progressive, sometimes leftist and sometimes more centrist. When it comes to protecting Medicare and SS, it is the Bernie Sanders and the Al Frankens that have been strongest on that issue. Weiner is a good guy with whom I agree on most issues. This isn't a knock on him."

I repeat. Can you not read? At all? :eyes:

[polichick]

2. I will celebrate if the prez comes out with a progressive plan...

...instead of a bipartisan plan from the get go.

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[tridim]

3. Never doubted it for a second.

The false outrage on DU regarding this issue is pathetic. Don't risk the increased blood pressure, just ignore it.

[JuniperLea]

6. Yeah, the daily outrage is wearing thin here too...

Mostly I just shake my head and move on.

[Logical]

30. Was it false outrage when he did not raiise taxes on the rich? Or can we never be ....

Unhappy?

[lamp_shade]

5. If true, that's great, but it won't slow down the pretend outrage around here.

[robinlynne]

9. It's not pretend. Had he let the Bush tax cuts expires, half of the debt would be solved.

just like that. period. really really bad move. one out of many.

[ProSense]

14. Had he let the tax cuts expire

people would be complaining about their paychecks going down and blaming him for allowing Republicans to hold unemployment benefits hostage. Similar to how he's being blamed for having to deal with this situation after Congress failed to pass his 2011 budget.

That's right, had Congress passed the 2011 budget when Democrats were in the majority, the current actions to prevent a government shutdown would not be necessary.

[vaberella]

17. Yeah...Tax cuts that also the middle class and the poor would NEVER see.

Further more...did you see what is behind the tax cuts. The Dems actually fought for them to stay in. Dems---while Obama wanted the tax cuts for the rich to be allowed to expire. Get the facts man...

[Solomon]

10. Yep. It's already started. See below.

[lamp_shade]

11. And above ....

[earthside]

7. Let's face it ...

... the horse is already out of the barn for Pres. Obama on much of this issue.

Starting from the appointments of Geithner and Summers and the reappointment of Bernanke through to the cave on extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich and last week's "compromise", well, he can speechify all he wants but much of his federal fiscal policy is a 'done deal'.

And really, if he argues now for raising taxes on the rich ... after last December ... that ought to go in the dictionary as a new definition for chutzpah.

[phleshdef]

24. You are looking at things in a very narrow minded fashion.

There is no rule that says a President can't compromise on something for what he or she perceives as a good reason with full intention of coming back to the fight he or she compromised on later. President Obama wanted to guarantee unemployment extensions for as many people as he could, he wanted middle class and lower class tax levels to change as little as possible. The wealthy should be taxed a lot more and they deserve to be taxed a lot more. But that effort should always take a back seat to middle class relief while unemployment is still hovering around 9%. If we were at 5 or 6%, then the fight would have been worth it. We weren't and aren't, so until that happens, people should not play games with raising taxes on the middle class or shorting out aid to the unemployed. Had the President and liberal Democrats not compromised with Republicans and blue dogs back last December, thats exactly what they would be guilty of.

There are more important things at risk here than having our ideological pleasure centers stimulated. This country and its economy are structured in such a way that certain things HAVE to be tended to to avoid some really undesirable consequences. The banking system has to be stable. The debt ceiling has to be high enough to give the government room to spend. And the federal government, ultimately, has to continue running. Any shutdown beyond a paltry amount of time would be devastating to an already fragile economy. These things, as far as "here and now", day to day life goes, are tremendously more important than getting your rocks off to the punishment of Wall Street. And thats not to say it doesn't deserve some punishment. Of course it does. Its largely why we are even having this conversation. But its not important enough to risk Republicans shooting the hostage.

Get unemployment down to healthy levels, get GDP growing at healthy levels, then we can play the game of "my values and ideology are bigger than yours". I'm all for it because I know ours (progressives) really is bigger than theirs and I'll celebrate the day we are able to fully whip it out and prove it. But like any responsible adult, we have to recognize when to keep it in our pants and keep the fundamentals of running the country in a stable place. Without a full progressive majority across the board, compromise will be necessary. We can't celebrate the balance of powers only when it benefits us.

[Whisp]

31. excellent post, phleshdef. ty. nt

[MadMaddie]

68. Well done Phleshdef!

[robinlynne]

8. actually I'm extremely unhappy with Obama, and very happy with this post.

[AtomicKitten]

12. Sounds promising.

[JoePhilly]

13. Tomorrow is another day ... and the outrage machine runs 27/7.

[Shiver]

15. They have so much outrage

they needed to add three extra hours to the day? :P

[JoePhilly]

18. hahaha ... na, it just feels 3 hours longer ... LOL

[Ikonoklast]

44. It's the "DU Time Dilation Syndrome".

Does the outrage last forever, stretching forward into infinity?

No, but it can sure feel like it some days here.

[vaberella]

16. Of course. I'll never forget when PETA screamed about Obama killing flies.

From then on...I said, well hell---it's too much if I expect more from DU.

[JoePhilly]

20. God, I forgot about that.

[Shiver]

21. Wait, that really happened? How did I miss that?

Link, please?

[jberryhill]

26. It was awesome - video here

The ninja remix is the best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sV3_LUBGTU

[Shiver]

28. Oh, I saw that.

What i didn't see was PETA's reaction.

[jberryhill]

37. They sent a no-kill flytrap to the White House

http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2009/06/17/obama-and-the-fly.aspx

[JoePhilly]

29. that is hilarious!!!

[LiberalFighter]

23. I didn't see that.

Of course, PETA tends to lose their minds too many times.

[Myrina]

19. Lets hope the speech doesn't change in the next hour, and ...

... what's said in the speech doesn't morph into some mealymouthed piece of GOP ass-kissing legislation that further fucks the working folks.

[felinetta]

22. I get tired of talking heads. I will wait for my President to speak. I have hope.

[ProudDad]

25. Is this the same Anthony Weiner

who dropped the public option...

In trade for a vote that never came?

[Teaser]

40. YES. WEINER IS EVIL AND SATAN AND TEH DEVIL

it is no coincidence that Weiner, Satan, and teh Devil appear in that sentence together. It is no coincidence because THEY ARE THE SAME.

[ProudDad]

47. Stupid - over the top post...

But thanks for playing :eyes:

[Teaser]

53. DON'T DEFEND OBAMA AND WEINER THE LEOPOLD AND LOEB OF CORRUPTION

.

[msanthrope]

46. GET UNDER THAT BUS ANTHONY!!!!!!

Jeebus, that's predictable...

[ProudDad]

48. Another stupid over the top post...

And now, here's the home game -- thanks for playing... :eyes:

[slipslidingaway]

71. He dropped the single payer vote in committee ...

for a vote by the entire house, then said the CBO would score a SP bill, nothing was ever published, but it sure did diminish the outcry to score a SP bill.

:shrug:

I called his office so many times they knew my voice, I asked to see what he sent to the CBO, they could not furnish the details and were rude "what does it mean to you?"

He can be a powerful voice ... if not a distraction.

:shrug:

[GOTV]

27. Yeah? And I was pumped when I heard him say he wouldn't sign a HC bill without a public option ...

There's what he says and then there's what he's actually able to accomplish

[craigmatic]

32. Wiener is usually right about these things but I'm taking a wait and see approach.

[Pirate Smile]

33. The CONSTANT fucking Whining & Complaining from a certain segment on the Left is never ending.

Geezus! They do it before any facts are even out there.

It is as reflexively negative as the f@#king Republicans and it is I'm starting to give it the same amount of credibility.

I saw Weiners tweet earlier and appreciate his hashtag beacon sign.

[wndycty]

35. And it is funny becaue we have folks who have legitimate progressive credentials, but. . .

. . .when they don't agree with the complainers they get thrown under the bus.

[chowder66]

51. I'm with Pirate!

[NYC Liberal]

61. Amen. Fortunately, I think the more it continues, the more

people are getting tired of it. When there is NOTHING but negativity and attacks, nobody takes it seriously (nor should they).

[Robbins]

34. Well

Remember all those who said Obama was to announce social security cuts In SOTU that never happened?

Some places like the Wall Street Journal are saying one thing while others like the LA Times are saying another.

I think the haters will be disappointed tonight.

Remember Obama Is running for reelection.There Is no way he Is going for more tax Cuts for the wealthy and cutting SS,Medicare,and
Medicaid like the commission wanted.Regardless this Is more likely to be the start of the 2012 campagin Instead of a propsoral for Congress since Republicans In the House will only vote on their plans.

[Teaser]

39. NO!!!!!!!!!!! WEINER HAS BETRAYED US ALL.

.

[wndycty]

43. LOL

:kick:

[Puglover]

41. Sounds promising and

I like what I'm hearing the Prez say.

[ProudDad]

49. I remember a time

way back in the dim dark past of this country...

Back when gasoline was only 99 cents per gallon...

And one could buy a house in the S.F. Bay Area for only $200,000...

When this shit would cost a democrat his job...

[cottonseed]

50. I remember when bread was a nickel. Now that damn Obama's made it 4 bucks!

[Teaser]

54. I remember a time

back afore you was even a young'n, that we didn't have these newfangled AUTO-MO-BILES. And we would all walk to school, 10 miles if'n it was a one. Yessirree, you all gone soft, says I.

[Renew Deal]

58. lol

:rofl:

[ProudDad]

63. I have to admire anyone who can make a joke

out of the Democrats turning on the Working Classes...

:rofl:

[mikekohr]

55. Big Kick

25 in '12

[Renew Deal]

56. Does that mean Lieberman will vote against it?

:shrug:

[Whisp]

59. primary his ass, Wiener! we need a Progressive like you!

:rofl:
not a corporate stoogetool like that filthy liar cheater evildoer robber of the elderly Obama!

[Change Happens]

65. Agreed 100%!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

70. "A long overdue explanation of why government exists. Why Americans are Progressives."

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