Cut the guy some FUCKING SLACK!

[Keith Bee]

Now, do I know that the President will aggressively pursue what he outlined in his speech today? Uh-uh. But it seems to me, after all the goddam bitching I've seen on this and other sites about Obama's "failure" to even enunciate a response to the GOP, it is time for Dems to do something which does not come naturally to us: Wait and see what happens.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I applaud what he said today.........and...

I think instead of waiting to see what happens, we need to keep some pressure on him and on the Congress to produce the desired results.

[emulatorloo]

2. Agreed. It is always a good idea to keep after Congress, even our Republican reps and Senators

They especially live in Teabagger Bubble.

[eridani]

5. +10 n/t

[MNBrewer]

7. Hear hear!

[emulatorloo]

3. Expect a lot of "Obama said X, but he has a secret plot with Boehner to do Y"

But do call your Congress people.

[Bluenorthwest]

4. I reject the idea of apathy and silence and instead say offer

active support, dissent, speak your mind and keep the conversation on the side of the people. Wait and see the other side exert tons of pressure while we sit and nod along? I think not.

[Keith Bee]

12. That's not what I'm advocating

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't descend like flies in the assumption that what Obama said is shit.

[comtec]

23. based on his history, we can gurantee it's shit

tell me even ONE instance where he has praised the left, let along sucked it's cock, like he has the right, and corporations?!

i'm sick of being told to enjoy this shit sandwich just because it's wrapped in a black, democratic wrapper!

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. +1000!

:thumbsup:

[DirkGently]

6. There's never a time for constituents to silence their demands from leadership.

[Exilednight]

8. When we wait is when we get screwed. I waited for HCR, and that didn't turn out so well. n/t

[Keith Bee]

13. I was screaming for Obama to get involved in HCR

This is a different kettle of fish: The time to get angry is if and when the President's words turn out to be...just words. In the meantime, we should turn away the cannons.

[Exilednight]

17. When you turn away from the issue is when Obama folds. n/t

[Keith Bee]

19. Bullshit!

You're buying into the meme that he's a "weak" President.

[comtec]

24. but he IS a weak liberal president...

He's atlas uber strong as a CONSERVATIVE president however.
you seem to be under the mistaken idea that Obama gives two FUCKS about us on the left, let alone the poor.

look at what he has actually daned to stand behind, and tell me the poor arent getting BENT OVER AND VIOLENTLY RAPED every time?

[Exilednight]

29. How hard did he fight for the public option? Past performance is the best

predictor of future performance.

[joentokyo]

33. In my humble opinion, we passed that point about a year ago.

[Recursion]

9. Get ready: any realistic dealmaking he has to do to get the damn thing passed...

...will be seized upon as evidence that the concessions he makes are what he "really wanted to do all along".

[msongs]

10. it was a nice speech. let's see if there is any action to back it up....this time nt

[FrenchieCat]

11. I don't want to wait and see,

I want to help what he proposed along!

We've been sitting and waiting, and that wasn't even the original plan....
Originally it was "Yes, WE can"......we were going to organize and get her done....
and then Obama said his election was just the start. So when do we start?
I don't want anything close to the Ryan plan....so I won't be waiting.

[MadMaddie]

32. That's right Frenchie

"WE" need to start the movement at our level. Just as the Wisconsin grass roots folks showed us there is power in numbers.

[Chris_Texas]

14. This time he means it!!!! He is gonne tell his corporate masters to fuck off! Heh-heh

[FrenchieCat]

16. You better pray that he means it......

or else your ass, like mine, will be grass.

Perhaps throwing rocks at the death panel would be a better purpose....
especially since you sound like you have passion about the issues.

So the Question is, do you have enough passion to stop the shit that will go down,
if enough of you keep acting like this is a fucking game. It ain't. Some serious shit that
will hurt us real bad will go down, if we busy ourselves with nothing more
than trying to defeat the only person standing in the way of us and the fucked up
Republican pieces of shit death Panel.

Death panel here ---> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x653886

[Avant Guardian]

18. Indeed, we all better pray that he means it

Cuz if he doesn't mean it, the economy will collapse

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[ItNerd4life]

20. No! I've been waiting and waiting and waiting

he's all talk, not action.

[Keith Bee]

21. You are part of the problem

We don't wait for shit in this country! Now! NOW!!! That's why we have endless election campaigns and "reality" TV.

When was the last time you read (brace yourself) a book? I'm ashamed to say that, in my case, it's been more than two months. I guess I'm a dinosaur. :-)

[comtec]

26. so all the protests, the letters and emails and...

why are you sucking this man's cock?
all he's done is kick us liberals in the teeth, stomp on our groin, bash our teeth in, and brutally attack us (verbally as well as legally, laws we care about overturned by HIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT)

will I vote gop? no don't be a fucking dumb shit moron.... but i won't be happy when i do vote for him.

I won't forgive him the insults.

[polichick]

22. That's ridiculous. If we're going to end up with anything near the prez' plan...

...the left will have to fight like hell - otherwise the negotiations will take us straight toward Ryan's whackadoodle plan.

"Wait and see what happens" my ass - I've been on the phone with progressive Congressional offices all day. They do seem to be gearing up for a fight.

[pmorlan1]

25. Slack?

Keith Bee, I'll wait and see what happens (I have no choice) but when Obama moves to the right in his negotiations I hope you will not post an excuse for it.

[comtec]

27. moves? hell he STARTS on the right

of center and continues on from there.
it disgusts me how this man we LIBERALS fought so hard to put into office, spits in our eye, EVERY GOD DAMNED CHANGE HE GETS!!!!

and yes i'm pissed and disillusioned with him.
i'll vote in the general for him, but damned if i vote for his conservative ass in the primary.

[pmorlan1]

30. You Are Correct

Yes, I agree he did start right of center...he will also move even further to the right before this is done. Hell, he'll probably move further to the right before the negotiations begin!

[joentokyo]

34. The shame is that he will have no progressive opposition in the primaries.

No center or left of center candidate can make it through the primary process now that unlimited funds can be channelled into the elections by corporations. Funny they are persons when it comes to campaign contributions, but not when comes to paying taxes.

[pmorlan1]

28. Maybe...

we should take a poll at DU to see who thinks the President will follow through on what he said in his speech or whether he will capitulate, as he always does. It would be quite interesting to view the poll and comments to it once the deal is done.

[craigmatic]

31. Cutting him slack is what enabled him to pass the bush tax cut extension. Waiting to see

what happens should be mixed with sending letters and emails just to make sure he goes left instead of just talking left.

[joentokyo]

35. Please do not hold your breath while waiting.

[craigmatic]

38. Indeed

[Tx4obama]

37. Obama Rally Live Now. Live stream link below

http://cspan.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/