OBAMA IS TRULY AMAZING: They beat up on him all day everyday, rightwingers and the professional left

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DU included, bashing all day everyday, not liberal enough, loves the banks more than me...Bla blah blah, yet here is a today's headline:

BAM LEADS GOP '12 PACK!

Leads ALL of them!

Enjoy: http://thepage.time.com/2011/04/19/hes-still-got-it/

[krawhitham]

1. Just imagine what he could do with a little support

[DJ13]

2. Just imagine what could be done with his support

:think:

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3. ?

Do whatever you want, get busy!

[villager]

12. Imagine what the people who voted for him could do with a little support from White House policies!

n/t

[Armstead]

19. Bingo

[roguevalley]

16. Putting professional left in the screed above makes this a fail.

Anyone who is not for Obama is castigated as professional left. Sad. Fail. Ugh. Oh, and I'm union and vote too.

[MissDeeds]

33. +1000 n/t

[villager]

34. Indeed it does. It's wind-up, Beltway "rote speak"

n/t

[mochajava666]

65. +1

[treestar]

54. +1

[Ian David]

4. ...

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5. Thank you!

[Armstead]

20. and 47 percent of all Americans

[Ian David]

27. IIRC, Bush was at 36% and Cheney at 19% when they "won" in 2004. n/t

[Armstead]

28. I'm niot saying it's horrible -- Just responding to some unmerited gloating

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. +1

:thumbsup:

[kjackson227]

55. This is all that needs to be said...

SUPPORTED BY 87% LIBERAL DEMOCRATS...

Me, included!


Obama/Biden, 2012

[OnyxCollie]

69. What percentage of Democrats are liberal?

If you split the population into three groups- Republicans, independents, and Democrats- and then split Democrats into two (maybe three) groups- conservative, (maybe) moderate, and liberal- how many people is that?

Not fucking many.

[BlueJac]

6. Turnips falling off the truck.

[eridani]

7. Good as far as it goes. With Dems not in control of Congress, it won't do us much good n/t

[ProudDad]

9. The Dems were in charge of the Congress from 2006 until

their impotence and republican-lite bullshit...

caused people to vote for REAL republicans...

Which kind of "Democrats" are you thinking of?

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21. Right on....I agree with you!

[Qutzupalotl]

13. He could have coattails

if he elaborates on the good framing he used when he ripped Ryan's budget plan.

[eridani]

61. And backs it up with taxing the rich, which 80% of the population favors n/t

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[intaglio]

11. Perhaps you would prefer the term Fundamentalist Left

You know, the ones for whom any deviation from the one true politics is anathema.


Whatever that politics happens to be this week.

[Pholus]

14. Your persuasive powers are weak, young one.

After all, it seems as if we are merely disagreeing what the "one true politics" is.

[intaglio]

39. There is no such thing a one true politics

Union member, worker, voter, activist since 18 and all I've seen in the 40 years since is the left destroying itself by squabbles over what is or is not the most "right on" thing to do. I am sick of the fundamentalist left dragging everybody down by fulfilling all the paranoid predictions of the RW noise machine.

I am sick of the left abandoning the voters in the centre because the centre wants something less extreme than what is being held out to them by the left. I have seen the left hamstrung until, in the UK, they put Tony F'n Blair in power. The left then hero worshiped him letting him drag the party so far to the right that the Conservatives became the party of the centre.

Be Left but be real. Get elected then make it profitable for the talking heads to push your views. Make sure that prejudice and violence from the right is properly reported as terrorism. Make the right sell their souls to the workers.

[Pholus]

44. Fundamentalism is in the eye of the beholder.

So, your first reply didn't mean anything?
"You know, the ones for whom any deviation from the one true politics is anathema."
So your definition of "fundamentalism" relied on the phrase "one true politics" which you later claim does not exist. Does that mean that you agree that there is no "fundamentalist left?"

Anyway, funny how similar we are in background with very different perspectives. What I've seen in 30 years since my first vote is that the left is destroying itself in trying to hew towards a fictitious center DEFINED by the RW noise machine.

I'm sick of the center left abandoning the core principles we held for 60 years because they think that a move to the center will strengthen the people's love for us. It isn't happening because we have the nutball right who at least defines some kind of vision while our side cuts our own throats in order to compromise and appear centrist. Well guess what, I guess the GOP IS the party of business after all -- after all we come out like chumps in every negotiation we make.

Can't you SEE how they do it? They make the demand they need, a demand they would love but think they can't get and then they make three insane demands that they know damn well would destroy the f'n country. Then our pushover mushboy centrists decide to compromise and give them the first two items. Guess what? That's more than the minimum they were looking for in the first place! So, buoyed by success they do it again. And amazingly they win again! And so it happens again, and again and again!

Why isn't the center flocking to us then? Well, they see the nutballs get what they want and the mushboys who gave it to them and what they think is "well heck, at least the nutballs have the courage of their convictions -- they stand for something" No wonder we got our teeth kicked in in 2010. We couldn't even articulate what we did *right* for fear of offending the GOP. So spare me your comments about "fundamentalist" ideology because the couple times we actually stood our ground we saw the other side cave pretty quickly. I personally am sick of centrist fundamentalists who have forgotten how to win.

Finally, your last paragraph is not disputed by me. Except that my "get real" is said probably more in exasperation than an exhortation to shut up and accept the status quo.

[Armstead]

50. +1

[Armstead]

22. I would prefer the term Proud Liberals...That was the majority until the Democrats weenied out

The "one true politics" swipe is the saddest stereotype I have seen in a long time.

Liberalism was the mainstream, until democrats started selling that basic political philosophy down the river. It is still thge philosophical underpinning that a majority of peopel hold today, if you ask themn what they really want on specific issues.

If you bothered to get your head out of the sand, you might realize that the "professional left" includes people with a wide range of ideological perspectives, from mainstream liberal moderate to more progressive.

[HERVEPA]

10. The Professional Left?

As in those who give a damn bout equal rights, the poor and disadvantaged, the environment, torture and such?
And worked hard as hell to elect him? That professional left?
What a BS term.

[MessiahRp]

15. Flamebait

Not to mention a real asshole way to attack other DUers.

Stick the "Professional Left" reference up your ass.

Rp

[polichick]

37. +1

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42. I am very tired of being negative all day EVERYDAY!

Whine whine whine...All the time.

[asjr]

17. I am glad he is my president. I have lived

through some real losers. If I have any doubts about him I think Oh My God it could be McCain and Palin!

[Alcibiades]

23. True

He's been far better than Bill Clinton, the best Democratic president since LBJ, and even he had Vietnam (as Obama has Afghanistan). He's certainly better than Bill Clinton, who was himself better than any possible Republican.

Has he done everything I would have liked? No. Presidents are constrained. There are things I think he would have liked to do, but found impossible, such as closing Guantanamo Bay Prison, and other things he ought to have done that he didn't even bother attempting, such as prosecuting US war criminals. I'm disappointed in these things, but he is who I thought he was: an electable Midwestern moderate Democrat. I think some folks didn't realize who he was, thus the ire.

[Cali_Democrat]

18. "Professional Left"

Can anybody explain the "Professional Left" to me? I keep hearing this term over and over again.

[Armstead]

24. Anyone who says anything remotely critical of Obama who is not a Republican

[Solomon]

25. It can mean the very opposite of what some think it means

therefore you have a lot of fighting going on because people use the term differently. Sort of like opposite sides of the same coin.

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. If you're not a professional journalist/blogger, then don't worry about it.

The folks who get upset at the term, obviously don't know what it means.

[JTFrog]

48. Exactly.

[Armstead]

51. And there is something wrong with that? We NEED more voices

[Shiver]

43. Anyone who's job it is to be on the left.

Radio hosts, bloggers, journalists, etc that espouse left-wing views and beliefs, and those opinions make up the majority of their content and are what brings in readers/listeners. The opposite end of the Professional Right, which, as you can imagine, includes Rush, Hannity, and everyone on Faux News.

That's how I interpret it anyway. Some have taken it to mean anyone on the left who is critical of democrats, regardless of whether or not they are getting paid for it.

[Vincardog]

26. He is doing pretty good for a republican president. Imagine is he was a Democratic one!

[DJ13]

30. OUCH!

:thumbsup:

[Maven]

36. +1

[white_wolf]

57. +1000

[mochajava666]

66. +1

[uponit7771]

67. 87% of liberal democrats would support a republican president? Again, DU isn't his base...

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70. Agreed! A bunch of whiners dead enders :)

[former9thward]

29. Who is this 'professional left'?

People that get paid for being on the left? I don't think that is a high number.

[ClarkUSA]

31. Obama's opponents - on both sides of the political spectrum - can't touch him.

Doesn't stop them from whining every damned day of the year, though, with hidden agendas and bitter resentments surfacing as vitriolic and often unreasoning criticism.

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41. +1

[Armstead]

52. I'll cop to resentments

Sure I've got a lot of resentments -- and they're not hidden.

I resent the fact that the democrats have been complicit in the successful campaign over the last 30 years to consolidate the economy into the hands of a few excessively wealthy and powerful corporatioins and a tiny but dominant oligarchy.

I resent seeing the GOP define issues and the democrats respond in a tepid "sorta have problems with that" way.

I resent 30 years of hearing democrats make excuses for ineffectivness, while the GOP forges ahead and rams through their agenda.

yeah, I resent those things....So There!

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[Enrique]

40. taunting people with a politician's approval rating?

we're still in an economic emergency, and a lot of us are worried about the huge cuts coming, possibly the end of very important programs.

Who cares that much about any politician's approval rating? Care so much to go around taunting people about it?

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[Enrique]

60. more taunting

Obama should change his slogan to "Nyah nyah!"

[paulk]

45. Wow!

He's super duper special!

What a guy!

[Union Scribe]

46. Enjoy your ride on the comet.

Just remember to wait for the others.

[cali]

47. what the fuck is the "professional left"? Is that like the

"professional sell out DLCers"?

[TheKentuckian]

58. Right wingers are always projecting. I suspect many of "ours" are paid.

[mountainlion55]

49. actions speak louder than words

I did not like or trust Obama in 08 and I have seen nothing from him that would change my mind:hippie:

[FrenchieCat]

59. When one's eyes are shut super tight.....

one will see nothing.

When one's mind is shut super tight,
it will not ever be changed.

[uponit7771]

68. Obama promise meter shows me facts, those facts indicate he's been taking action not just words

[MNBrewer]

62. Hope gets crushed

No surprise.

[craigmatic]

63. All respect due to the thread starter,

people talking trash about Obama isn't realy a big deal all presidents go through this. We all know it and he knew it too but he still wanted the job so he has to take what goes with it. What's really hard is being unemployed with no benefits and being in danger of losing your house. Let's have a little perspective here.

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