1961 INS Records: "They have one child born Honolulu, 8/4/61 - Barack Obama II"

[Clio the Leo]

To be honest, I'm more intrigued by the details of the family life, future plans etc but here's further proof of the President's citizenship (granted, it's not certificate of circumcision like the wingnuts were apparently asking for lol) .... transcription my own...

From Obama Sr's INS file....

Obama, Barack H

Claims to intend to attend University of Hawaii for one more year. Bach. of Arts degree in economics.

USA spouse to go to Wash State University next semester. When finished school has plans to go to mainland school for a Doctors degree in economics, after that - return to Kenya. They have one child born Honolulu on 8/4/61 - Barack Obama II, child living with mother (she lives with her parents and subject resides at 1482 Al___ st.






http://www2.az-independent.com/2011/04/26/independent-exclusive-dads-immigration-file-offers-more-evidence-of-obamas-birthplace/

Note: traffic to the site has apparently slowed it


So, I guess this means Bill Ayers paid off an INS agent in 1961 to lie as a part of this grand scheme? :shrug:

[kestrel91316]

1. William Ayers was born in 1944, so he was 17 when Obama was born.

PERFECTLY plausible that he foresaw that little black boy becoming President and needing to fake his citizenship........so he traveled to HI to work his nefariousness......

[Patchuli]

12. LOL!!! nt

:rofl:

[Fuddnik]

23. Nah, Ayers was busy plotting the Kennedy assasination back then.

[Tarheel_Dem]

2. Note the date of the memo. It's dated only days after the president was born.

No matter what proof is shown, there are those who honestly believe there was some grand plot to install baby Obama as president some 40 years later. It really boggles the mind. Thanks for posting.

[dkf]

3. Funny how we applaud all these little bits and pieces proving Obama was born in Hawaii.

But ask why he doesn't just sign a paper releasing a copy of his certificate to the public and you are a birther. It's ridiculous.

Good research though.

[Tx4obama]

5. Because he can not have it released.

According to the law in Hawaii Obama could go there and 'look' at the bc document that is bound in the book in the vault, but can not get a photostat copy of it.

[dkf]

8. CNN says he can.

"Obama could file a Freedom of Information Act request to view his original birth certificate and make copies. But at this point, the White House maintains, nothing will satisfy the doubters."

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-25/politics/birthers.obama.hawaii_1_birther-controversy-obama-opinion-research-corporation/2?_s=PM:POLITICS

[Tx4obama]

13. The Hawaii attorney general's office says no.

Excerpt:

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

SNIP

Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/

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p.s. Well since Trump has spent tons of money sending investigators to Hawaii, I'm sure Trump will present all the evidence one of these days! LOLOLOLOLOLOL :)

[CreekDog]

17. is this an example of where 5 people tell you why you're wrong

and you stubbornly stick to 1 thing you heard as evidence --even though that thing you heard was a secondary source (and wrong to boot?)

[Foolacious]

21. If a FOIA could obtain a copy,

then why doesn't a birther file one and get it? If Hawai'ian birth records are susceptible to FOIA regulations, then access won't be restricted to one person (the President).

[yardwork]

24. I'm sure that they have. That's why nobody but fringe characters believe in the birther crap.

You don't think that Bill and Hillary Clinton didn't investigate Obama's past looking for anything to use against him in the primaries? They desperately wanted back in the White House. If Bill and Hillary couldn't find anything, there's nothing to find.

[Pirate Smile]

6. What???

He released what Hawaii considers a BC & the only thing he actually could release.

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. Oh Lord.....

:rofl:

[Cali_Democrat]

15. WTF? He already released the necessary documentation.

What more do you want? This is birther nonsense you're spouting.

[eShirl]

20. Not "birther;" "concern troll."

[JoePhilly]

22. He has released a copy.

The STATE of your birth maintains the official records and they release the copies.
The State of your birth maintains the official records and they release the copies.
The State of your birth maintains the official records and they release the copies.

No Individual maintains their own birth records.
No Individual maintains their own birth records.
No Individual maintains their own birth records.

The State of Hawaii determines who was born there.
The State of Hawaii determines who was born there.
The State of Hawaii determines who was born there.
The State of Hawaii determines who was born there.

Can't make this much clearer.
Can't make this much clearer.
Can't make this much clearer.

[itsrobert]

4. Obama Sr seems like a shady character

n/t

[Pirate Smile]

9. Yeah. Guys who abandon their families by choice usually are.

[jillan]

10. What is going on here? You find this and have to post it, I spend an hour online trying to find out

about why Obama won't release his college transcripts because that is what has the wackos in my life are all hot and bothered about today.
I had to start a thread asking for help on what this is about.

You would think there is nothing else going on in the world or in this country if you only listened to teabagger, that the most urgent problems we have are Obama's birth certificate and his college records.

I feel like I am living in a sequel to One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.

[The Doctor.]

11. They don't get 'proof', they don't care.

They believe whatever the hell they want to.

[stevedeshazer]

14. Clearly a fake reproduced on an IBM Selectric 72 by Dan Rather.

[Keith Bee]

16. LIES! ALL LIES!

Teh tyme masheen its :tinfoilhat:

[struggle4progress]

18. There's a Hole in the Bucket

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlICWoBb5Ik

[safeinOhio]

19. It is all about

him being half Irish. Nothing else.

[ProSense]

25. Who knew that half the people in this county are

either racist or stupid?

You think there would be a major push with heightened media attention on McCain's birth certificate? Hell, the media could likely convince these idiots that Schwarzenegger was born in the U.S.

Good fucking grief!