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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:29 PM
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Huckabee and Barbour exiting GOP race for 2012?

Not sure if this is a "side effect" of Obama's birth certificate release or not, but it looks like warning signs that these guys are dropping out. Read more here.

http://processstory.com/2011/04/27/huckabee-won’t-run/
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:32 PM
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1. Crap I really wanted Huckabee involved in the circus.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:42 PM
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2. Huckabee was being forced to make a decision by Fox News
Guess he would rather keep his talk show.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:03 PM
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3. I think the really Serious(TM) candidates are waiting for 2016.
The candidates who think they're capable of being elected don't want to go against Obama, so they're waiting.

The only thing the 2012 GOP primaries will decide is which circus clown will be the one to go kamikaze against Obama in the general.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:25 PM
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4. You may be right in general, but I don't think Huckabee or Barbour will run in 2016 either (eom)
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:27 PM
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10. Don't be too confident
Obama will probably win but it's because the GOP doesn't have many options.

If unemployment, however, starts to creep up and gas prices are high, even a poor Republican candidate might win. When people are suffering, they don't necessarily vote rationally.
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MercuryRepeater Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:45 PM
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15. By then, it will be too late for them. The demographics will shift a lot in the next 5 years.
Tens of thousands of old Teabaggers will have been replaced in the voting populace by young minorities.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:47 PM
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5. the Pubs have ONE shot in '12
that's Rubio. He will have had about the same governing experience as Obama at that time despite his younger age.

He is dangerous... really dangerous because he can split the Hispanic vote or better. He'll draw Tea party, Hispanics, fundies AND the fiscal blue bloods.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:16 PM
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12. Agree. Team him up with "good-looking" Thune and we have big problems.
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MercuryRepeater Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:49 PM
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18. pretty doesn't equal electable.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:22 PM
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13. He won't run in 2012.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:38 PM
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14. but he's probably a LOCK in 2016 nt
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MercuryRepeater Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:49 PM
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17. you act like people will vote for him based solely on race. He's still a Teabagger.
Rubio might be a VP candidate in 2016, but his team will still lose.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:30 PM
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20. he's a LOCK for the Pub nomination, not the WH lol nt
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:45 AM
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24. 2016 will be time for another puke win
This country as of late seems to be changing every 8 years.
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MercuryRepeater Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:48 PM
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16. Most Teabaggers won't be able to overcome their hatred of Hispanics
Rubio wouldn't be able to win the Primaries.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:43 AM
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23. No way
Birthers think he's ineligible, and Tea Baggers think he is a fraud. Rand Paul will be a lock in 2016.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:22 PM
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6. The only way Mittens was going to win the Repub nomination
was if he was the only one willing to run. Looks like h-s main competition will be Timmy
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:33 PM
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7. I'm glad Huckabee is out
My SO kept repeating some nonsense about Huckabee being reasonable, despite my objections. Huck would have fooled a lot of people.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:58 AM
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9. I am in complete agreement.
When in front of the right audience, he can be charming and sound half way reasonable.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:02 PM
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11. Show your SO this, there is nothing honest or reasonable about Huckabee, he's a big ole Fraud.
destroys 100 computer hard drives blocks investigation of sons hanging and slitting dogs throat
with a friend,

steals $70,000 worth of state furniture from the governors mansion and wife says "it must be there somewhere",

releases a violent, murderous felon who went on to kill two more women,

uses state airplanes as personal transportation, sets up own non-profit to profit himself,

eats squirrels cooked in a pop corn popper,

has a vindictive thin skinned anger,

doesn't believe in evolution,

won't say if women should be preachers,

believes a wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ,

believes Adam and Eve were real people,

and no one is better at saying one thing,.... doing the opposite.... and getting credit for both: of talking small government and actually promoting big government lol........,

made a conscious attempt to keep state police from investigating the dog killing by his son David,

set up bridal registries at Dillard's and Target for themselves....... having already been married for more than 30yrs,........ they registered for $7000 in housewares and $1000 in gift cards in this way, because state ethics laws prohibited people from receiving gifts of more than $100 as a reward for doing their job, but there was an exception for wedding presents,....

used state funds for upkeep of the mansion on panty hose, barbecues, a dog house, dry cleaning, boat fuel, and alterations to clothes, settled out of court by agreeing that legal doubts existed over use of the funds.......

So, I start reading about this seemingly likable, alleged Christian, and start to realize that they are anything but.

Once Huckabee started to engage in his desire to become President of the United States, he started to hide more of the bodies.

One of the first things that this Presidential hopeful made sure of doing before he left government, was the destruction of the hard drives of 100 computers with "god" knows what on them, that they were successfully trying to hide. This criminal action, forced the new governor to find and spend $335,000 just to replace the hard drives and computers destroyed, leaving not a penny in the emergency fund designed to pay for extra expenses during tornadoes, hurricanes and other needs during the last six months of the fiscal year. This alone tells me this person cannot be trusted. Why would anyone destroy these computers and hard drives, other than to hide "evil" or unlawful conduct?

Huckabee also got a rapist released from prison, who then raped and killed two more women, even after several victims begged this person during that time not to, and shared their horrifying stories and fears, this person ignored their pleas to not release this violent, murderous, felon, and went to the Arkansas Parole board and secured the release. This same Parole board had recently declined parole for the felon (Wayne Dumond) but a preacher friend of this person, who ministered to Dumond in prison, shared his belief with this person, that Dumond had been "born-again". This person (idiot) felt and argued that the rapist was innocent, or at least got a "raw deal". "He'd been born on the wrong side of the tracks and hadn't been treated all that fairly." This person even wrote a letter to the rapist (Dumond), saying, "My desire is that you be released from prison. I feel that parole is the best way for your reintroduction to society to take place." This person commuted or pardoned over 669 prisoners, including 12 murderers during their time in office. Should this person be considered to sit in the oval office?

His son David and David's friend, Clayton Frady, were fired from their jobs at a Boy Scout camp because they hung a stray dog by its neck, slit its throat, and stoned it to death. Arkansas Governor Huckabee did everything in his "power" at the time, to prevent the State Police from investigating his son. The head of the State Police at the time was John Bailey, who later told Newsweek, that Governor Huckabees chief of staff and personal attorney, both "leaned" on him to not cooperate with the local prosecutor. Bailey said he viewed the pressure as improper and cut off communication. Seven months later, Bailey was called into Huckabees office and fired. Bailey claims that Huckabee told him that "I've lost confidence in your ability to do your job, I couldn't get you to help me with my son when I had "that" problem". This country needs another power hungry man as President?

Mike Huckabee also has a record of dipping into public funds and accepting improper gifts from supporters, something extremely problematic for a job like president where you control a trillion dollar budget.

He was investigated 16 times and cited five times by the Arkansas Ethics Commission for violating ethics rules. Two of those citations were for cash that the governor or his wife accepted but did not report. Huckabee's gifts peaked at $112,000 in 1999, including $23,000 worth of clothing; over half of that was given by one businessman who Huckabee appointed to a state board.

He claimed personal ownership of over $70,000 worth of furnishings in the governors mansion. The person who donated the furnishing, Cotton Grower Boe Adams said they were for the state, not the governor. After the Huckabees moved out in 2006, no one could find the furniture, even after a state audit. Huckabees wife insisted that "they must be there somewhere" lol. He also used state airplanes for personal transportation for his family and friends and in 1994 when he was lieutenant governor, he formed a non-profit called Action America which seemed to exist only to deliver money to him, without donors having to report or limit their contributions the way they would have a normal political contribution. A few years later, Action America paid Huckabee over $61,000 for giving speeches at "its events" lol, (its) being his own personal not for profit lol, wink wink OMG, and people want to consider this person for the Presidency?

Huckabee also admitted to eating squirrels he cooked in a popcorn popper.

People who know him say: that nice, sweet persona he shows on tv, is a fraud, he is actually quick to anger and repercussions can be swift and harsh.

Huckabee also claims, that years of his sermons were destroyed in a church remodeling, sorta like those 100 computer hard drives destroyed -- literally crushed -- when he left the governor's office. This is a man who makes sure that there is no evidence lying around, he hides the bodies. This is Presidential material? Huckabee is just another political fraud, lying, cheating and acting for the camera while hiding from view, the ugly truth of who he really is. Huckabee is a prime example of why we desperately need to protect the seperation of church and state. Imagine this guy using his vision of religion, incorporated in his governing of this country using bits and pieces of the Constitution, the bible and his obvious random and reckless decision making as shown by his past actions above.

Now close your eyes, and imagine a Huckabee Presidency. This is only one of the reasons Obama must be re elected to a second term, the alternatives are too horrendous to even consider.
Lou



"Huckabee: 'a different kind of Jesus juice'", by Steve Pope, Los Angeles Times, December 2, 2007

"Huckabee Hides His Full Gospel?", by David Corn and Jonathan Stein, Mother Jones, December 10, 2007

"A sting from Huckabee," By Donald Lambro, Washington Times, December 3, 2007

"Jekyll and Huck", by Ernest Dumas, the Arkansas Times, 9/21/2006

"Huckabee stands by 'Christ' comment", By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press (via Yahoo.Com), December 30, 2007

public money Sources
"Huckabee Tries to Gloss Over Ark. Record", by Andrew DeMillo,
Associated Press via Breitbart.com, November 28, 2008
"Ark. governor defends gift registries", By Andrew DeMillo,
Associated Press via Boston.com, November 15, 2006

"Counting the furniture -- Huckabee takes his office furniture; a conflict on Mansion gift.", by Leslie Newell Peacock, the Arkansas Times, 12/14/2006

"Ask us about our governor: A primer on the Huckabee tenure as he embarks on a run for president", by Ernest Dumas, Arkansas Times, 12/21/2006

"Huckabee For President?", by Warwick Sabin, Arkansas Times, Sept. 22, 2005

"Huckabee: 'a different kind of Jesus juice'", by Steve Pope, Los Angeles Times, December 2, 2007

"Twilight For Huck", Arkansas Times, January 25, 2007 "Huckabees Registered For Gifts", Arkansas Times

"Three GOP Candidates Say They Don't Believe in Evolution," By: Mark Memmott and Jill Lawrence, USA Today On Politics, May 4, 2007

Rapist Sources
"The Story Mike Huckabee Dreads", by Byron York, The National Review, December 5, 2007

"Let us not whitewash governor's Clemencies", by Garrick Feldman, Arkansas Leader, July 28, 2004

"Huckabee's role in rapist's parole comes under fresh scrutiny", by Dana Bash and Alexaner Mooney, CNN.COM, December 7, 2007

"Murder Victiim's Mother Assails Huckabee," CBS News.Com, December 5, 2007

"Paroled Rapist Could Haunt Huckabee," by Brian Montopoli, CBS News.Com, December 4, 2007

"Huckabee Aide: Gov Pushed For Rapist's Freedom," by Brian Ross, ABC News: The Blotter, December 5, 2007

"Former Aide Contradicts Huckabee Defense of Rapist's Release," by Murray Waas, Huffington Post, December 5, 2007

"Documents Expose Huckabee's Role in Serial Rapist's Release," by Murry Waas, The Huffington Post, December 4, 2007

"Hard Times For Huckabee," The Hotline -- National Journal, December 6, 2007

"Despite Victim's Pleas, Huckabee Pushed Rapist's Freedom," by Brian Ross and Joseph Rhee, ABC News: The Blotter, December 5, 2007

Dog Lynching Sources
Huckabee's Son Arrested With Gun at Little Rock Airport, Associated Press on Fox News website, April 26, 2007
"Governor's Son 1 of 2 Fired At Scout Camp After Stray Dog Killed", by Elizabeth McFarland, Arkansas Gazette-Times, August 7, 1998

Its No Longer a Dogs World", By Marc Santora, New York Times: The Caucus, December 17. 2007

"A Sons Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabee," By Michael Isikoff and Holly Bailey, NEWSWEEK, Dec 24, 2007

Letter from Animal Legal Defense Fund to Boy Scouts Chief Executive, October 30, 1998









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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:23 AM
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8. I have seen confirmed reports about Barbour, but not Huckabee
I guess if Huckabee decided not to run it wouldn't surprise me. He was said to be lukewarm about the idea of running again.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:53 PM
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19. Didn't know they were in the race to begin with
Are there any hats in the proverbial ring yet? I've seen a bad wig, but no hats.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:41 PM
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21. I was kind of wondering about this. As some of you know, I don't think the GOP will nominate
anyone either still in the race, or openly discussing getting involved (including Romney.) It never occurred to me, though, that the reasons folks like Fuckabee would check out had more to do with groups like FUX than with other things (fundraising, etc.)
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 11:17 PM
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22. I still think that they will draft Jeb Bush. Bush won't run for the nomination,
but I don't see him turning down a draft either. And I wouldn't dismiss his chances in the general election. The Bush clan has shown that it knows how to steal elections.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:23 PM
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25. I think it will be Jeb too
Sad thing is, he could win.
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