Waukesha Recount - Break in Chain of Custody, other problems

[Scuba]

http://www.politiscoop.com/component/content/article/35-last-24h-news/247-wisconsin-recount-alert-serious-break-in-chain-of-custody-in-waukesha-county.html


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"At around 2:15pm, we were ready to open the bags for Delafield. There were three bags total. Bags 1 & 2 were fine. The numbers all matched up. When we got to bag 3, we found out that the bag # was NOT RECORDED ON THE INSPECTOR'S statement...! The Republican canvass person said we could assume that the clerk forgot to write the # down on the inspector's statement and we could proceed. Of course, this is a break in the chain of custody!..."

So Bill (volunteer lawyer) objected. I got my phone out and went to call the campaign. The sheriff wouldn't let me out the back door (even though I went out that door to use the restroom earlier) but made me go around everyone to the front door (front door is for reps, back door is for public). I had to get past the guy sitting out front wanting to know if I was leaving for the day, what my name was...

I called the campaign and they said to tell Bill to tell the judge that we are considering making an objection and want to have legal counsel. They said DO NOT open the bag. I raced back into the room and found Bill. He said the bag had already been opened..."


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It's too early to say if the election was rigged, but it's pretty obvious that there is no discipline in the Waukesha County election process. All Wisconsites should be more than a little peeved.

[PeaceNikki]

1. Ugh, this has been posted

here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x983334
And here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x984157

The ballots were counted separately.

The bag included other information that was evidence of legitimacy and the reconciliation of #'s matched. Now, could this be evidence of tampering? Yes, but not enough for more than a few hundred votes. As I said elsewhere, if this is consistently the case in every municipality (1 or 2 suspect bags), THEN something is very very fucking wrong. Til then, we continue to count, monitor, object and enter items into evidence.

It's suspicious that the person who knows the names of the Kloppenburg reps would have no fucking clue how many votes we are talking about. Anyone from Waukesha County knows how big Delafield is (or isn't) . Oh, and they counted them and read the numbers out loud.

There were 350 ballot in there at most. The Board overruled objection and the votes were counted. Objection was entered as evidence.

Here's a local news report that talks about it a bit: http://www.jsonline.com/multimedia/video/?bcpid=558092277001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAG_pBMo~,kVIkQYQQ-Iw0616Y-wpIS00yR0PFX2J3&bctid=922919203001

[Scuba]

2. Thanks Nikki!!!

[LiberalFighter]

3. All details needs to be accumulated and then an attempt to see the picture.

They have the resources to create a pattern that doesn't look like a pattern and provide the result they want.

[PeaceNikki]

4. Indeed. As I have said elsewhere:

The person who filed this report has blown it out of proportion and SERIOUSLY overblown the number of votes in the bag in question.

Bill and Darcy did exactly what they were supposed to do: object. The Board did exactly what it was supposed to do: review evidence and make a ruling. That's all that can be done onsite- Objections, rulings, evidence. The rest is left to litigation.

We've had 2 bags now with suspect seals - both entered into evidence with objections. Eye-brow raising, for sure, but still not freak-the-fuck-out worthy. The elections process requires people to do a very specific set of things. People make mistakes. It *could* be something else, but right now we keep watching and keep making careful note of these anomalies. Freaking out doesn't help anyone.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

5. Well, Kloppenburg is watching this and I doubt she is "freaking out"

Many of us have a keen interest, which is absolutely reasonable. What is unreasonable is to try to dictate that there is only one acceptable way to view the inept and/or criminal "anomalies" in Waukesha County.

[PeaceNikki]

6. Who's trying to dictate anything?

[LiberalFighter]

7. I did a check on the what has already been counted

and what people need to understand is that computers or other devices used to count the votes are not accurate. It is put out there that voting machines are suppose to be accurate but they aren't.

Personally, I think a specific process needs to be followed when ballots are counted on election night. There must be a way for ballots to be individually counted. They must be counted at least twice by different people. They must be done in batches of 100 or 50 so a count of actual ballots can be determined and tallied. Those precincts or wards where the two counts don't match would be counted either a third time with the machine or by hand. There are likely other processes that need to be followed.

[PeaceNikki]

8. The GAB guidelines are posted and ballots are being hand counted twice

and verified by observers. In batches of 25.

There are LOTS of processes being followed, I assure you.

Here: http://gab.wi.gov/

[LiberalFighter]

9. I would hope so. I wonder if they follow decent processes on election nite?

[PeaceNikki]

10. They do, it's all posted on GAB.

We're seeing that some local clerks and inspectors are sloppy and this leaves the possibility of nefarious intent open. This is important to learn and raises questions and evidence that can be used for litigation if it gets to that. At minimun, hopefully it will result in better accountability.