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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 03:47 PM
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"Some Fundamental Misunderstandings of the Anthony Weiner Story"
Some Fundamental Misunderstandings of the Anthony Weiner Story

Posted on June 16, 2011 by Dana Houle

In reading Twitter and blogs the last few week, I’ve realized that there are what I believe to be several misunderstandings about the politics and media coverage of the Anthony Weiner story, and how media drove the politics, and not the other way around.

It Didn’t Happen Because Anthony Weiner is a Democrat
The best comparisons aren’t Weiner and any number of Republicans caught up in sex scandals, like David Vitter or John Ensign. The better comparisons are what happened with Charlie Rangel, Democrat William Jefferson and Republican Bob Ney.

Rangel, Jefferson and Ney were all accused of abuse of office with financial improprieties. At the height of their scandals, Jefferson and Ney weren’t the big media stories that Rangel was, for two simple and connected reasons: Rangel was a regular on cable news while Jefferson and Ney weren’t, and Rangel is from New York City, while the others weren’t.

The national media is based in New York City, and the national media is narcissistic; they think whatever happens in New York is bigger national news than things that happen elsewhere. Think about mayoral coverage; there’s always more national reporting about Michael Bloomberg, or before him Rudy Guiliani or David Dinkins or Ed Koch, than any other mayor in America. Heck, most Americans have probably never even heard of, say, Antonio Villaraigosa, Annise Parker or Michael Nutter.

Anthony Weiner is from New York City. That was the biggest factor in making this a big story.

Democrats, By Calling on Weiner to Resign, Did Not Drive This Story
To think that this became a bigger story because Democrats told Weiner to resign is to avoid reality. Democrats could talk about jobs all they wanted, but as long as Weiner’s story was still alive, the media would respond as they did today, when Nancy Pelosi wouldn’t talk about Weiner because she wanted to talk about jobs: the TV networks turned off the cameras and went back to talking about Weiner.

This Wasn’t Simple Prudish Moralizing
Weiner was stupid and reckless for sending the photos, I think everyone can agree on that. And no, it’s not like hiring a prostitute and prancing around in a diaper, like Vitter did. But sending unsolicited photos of your groin to women you don’t know isn’t a case of two adults engaging in a consensual activity. The issue wasn’t that he was married, and the substantive problem wasn’t that he did it on Twitter (although that novelty fed in to the coverage). The problem was that a guy who has a decent degree of prominence by being a member of Congress was sending around photos of his crotch to women who hadn’t asked to see it.

This Got Worse With Support From Anthony Weiner
He may not have sent anything problematic to a 17 year old woman. But when you’re explaining that you didn’t send anything salacious to a 17 year old, and that you didn’t even realize she was 17, you’re in a PR disaster. And not having a press staff leads to debacles like the press conference where Breitbart took over.

Weiner Is Not Without Significant Political Blame
Weiner may be a bit of a victim here—it’s still murky how to me how Breitbart got the photos, and I’m definitely unhappy that sex scandals arouse the press so much when there are much bigger issues to report—but he also inflicted some serious damage on Democrats. There were opportunities costs such as him being the story on the day that special-election winner Kathy Hochul was swore in to office. He has also dominated press coverage at a time when Democratic hits on the Ryan Medicare plan started to draw Republican blood. But there’s also the serious price to be paid for validating Andrew Breitbart. Instead of being only a fabricator, the press will now say Breitbart can at least sometimes be credible; after all, he was right about Anthony Weiner.

Weiner Resigning Isn’t a Big Loss for Progressives
As Juan Cole lays out, regarding the Middle East Weiner has been a borderline neocon. He isn’t a player in crafting legislation or shaping an agenda. And while such ratings have methodological shortcomings, I’m sure many of Weiner’s liberal champions would be surprised to learn that in 2008 the National Journal ranked him only the 123rd most liberal member of Congress, only one spot more liberal than then-majority leader Steny Hoyer. None of this means it’s OK for the press to obsess about a guy’s groin, but it would be nice if people stopped playing the victim and saying Weiner got bounced from Congress because he’s too progressive, because that’s not what happened, and because he’s not particularly progressive compared to other Democrats.

The Problem With Lying to Nancy Pelosi Wasn’t That He Disrespected Her
Pelosi didn’t call on him to resign because her feelings were hurt when he lied to her by saying, after the story initially broke, that his accounts had been hacked and that he hadn’t done anything problematic. She dumped him because when it came time for damage control, his lies made it too difficult for his caucus to help him out. Without knowing whether he was still lying, defending him risked major problems for Democrats in the event worse details eventually surfaced.

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It’s not a good thing that Anthony Weiner resigned. But the harm isn’t what many progressives believe it is. The problem isn’t that a supposed progressive voice has been silenced, or that Democrats eat their own. It’s that in the age of cable news personalities, back-benchers with poor impulse control and no inclination to work with their colleagues can overwhelm all other political news, hurt Democrats, embolden the right to attack more Democrats and liberals, make politicians look like cads, and divide those who should want Democrats to succeed in serving the needs of the country.

http://rootedcosmopolitan.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/fundamental-misunderstandings-of-the-anthony-weiner-story/
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 03:56 PM
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1. And that is all that needs to be said on the subject.
KnR.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 03:57 PM
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2. If your not in the club, they will smear you.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 03:59 PM by RandomThoughts
And the club exist to protect members of the club.

The rest of the people don't matter to them.

And I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

Although mostly a thought puzzle...
Hence why when hearing the sound of the batting cage for weeks, I was busy working on other things, it faded away mostly, although did hear it again last night. Figure he has money in some bank somewhere that can help him, or actually it can't



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Bonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
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Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
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Dire Straits - Walk of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxVC0GB838


Constantine - Bring me to life (Evanescence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8d3K_hngw

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:00 PM
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3. Very good analysis.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:01 PM
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4. A good point not mentioned enough
Not all of the activity was consensual.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:14 PM
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5. this line is what it's all about - why Pelosi 'stabbed him in the back'
'''''his lies made it too difficult for his caucus to help him out. Without knowing whether he was still lying, defending him risked major problems for Democrats in the event worse details eventually surfaced.'''''

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:26 PM
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8. Yes, that stood out for me too. Had he been honest with her things might
be different, although I don't know how.
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digonswine Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:25 PM
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6. This is the best post on this entire affair-thanks.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:26 PM
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7. K&R
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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:30 PM
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9. K&R
Everybody should read this.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:40 PM
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10. FAIL. Ensign was ALL about financial impropriety (in addition to sex).
And Weiner had NOTHING to do with financial impropriety or abuse of office, from what I can tell.

Like I said, FAIL.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:07 PM
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11. Exactly.
It sickens me to see progressives on this site try to make this about Vitter or Thomas or the GOP. Anything but about Weiner.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:22 PM
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12. Don't you wish the Dems had this kind of unity on a jobs bill? n/t
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:32 PM
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13. Excellent ! Required reading for all Dems, all office-holders, and
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 05:33 PM by JAnthony
all people who watch Fox.

Despite the DU, and despite Fox News, this is the REAL story, the real facts, and what most of American voters will have to conclude when they look back on this whole chapter.

It's not our job to sanitize what he did by comparing it to someone else we already know is a fraud. It's our job to stick to the facts. Period.

K+R
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 03:45 PM
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19. What real facts?
Most of the post was conjecture and opinion. It really was just rehash of the usual.

But don't worry, the DLC already has a hand picked guy they are gonna throw at this seat heating up on the back burner.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:46 PM
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14. Thank you.
'nuff said.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:52 PM
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15. Its also was not a progressive witch hunt as many here think.
If any other Democratic congressman did the same exact thing under the same circumstances -- liberal, blue dog or in between -- the response would have been exactly the same... period.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:53 PM
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16. the most important
part of this article/post... "...media drove the politics, and not the other way around"


this is a crucial concept to understand... the media drives politics
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:31 PM
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17. what a joke our country is.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:15 PM
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18. Although I don't 100% agree with Weiner resigning
this article does make some good points that bear mentioning.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:31 AM
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20. Great article.
:thumbsup:
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