I think the Senate health insurance bill will pass, despite the rage and

[old mark]

opposition from both extremes and the propaganda from the GOP. I expect it's effects will be pretty neutral, maybe give more money to insurers,doctors and pharma, possibly be of slight benefit to the people who really needed it. It may have been the best we could get in the US at this time, but it is a lame, poor little thing, and it will wreck the Democratic majority in the Senate and possibly lose the White House to the GOP-again.

The entire process was badly done from the beginning, with the wrong people in charge and no real interest in the needs of the American people...Hell, there was money to be made. I believe those really in charge got what they wanted out of this bill, but some of the crumbs to the peasants may be an improvement over the existing non-system.

Obama, I hope you enjoyed yourself.

mark

[ellie]

1. Of course it will pass

Since when has Congress done anything the American people have wanted? It's like reverse psychology.

[ShortnFiery]

13. And all Hell is going to break loose.

We need to vote out all anti-working American INCUMBENTS every two years until these assholes get it right?!?

[Armstead]

2. Those crumbs have poison in the form of mandates

[rwheeler31]

3. It will pass somehow, I think it will help the Dem's.

Obama will run up the center, he is confusing.

[ShortnFiery]

14. Like an Albatross around their Corporate loving necks. eom

[Lint Head]

4. Politics is being played with human lives.

Who gives a rats ass about the middle. People's lives are at stake.

[still_one]

5. If it passes in the current Senate form, those who vote for it will have adverse consequences /nt

[Laelth]

6. Sadly, I suspect you are right.

Obama is doing a marvelous job of controlling Congress and this legislation from top to bottom.

The results, in this case, stink, but I am not one of those who say Obama is not leading. He is leading. He's just not leading in the direction I prefer.

:dem:

-Laelth

[old mark]

7. I think you are right. A lot of people here said he was "playing chess"

with the issue, and it's becoming clear that he certainly is.

The insurers and their allies are going to get huge profits out of this.

And I believe he may continue to gain support from the center and even the moderate republicans...he is one of their own, actually.


mark

[ShortnFiery]

15. IMO, Obama's NOT playing chess ... he's playing "Circus Master" of the THREE

rings (Democrats, Republicans and Corporations).

President Obama and the Right-Wing Duopoly (Democrats & Republicans) are putting on the show to serve The Center Ring (Greedy Insurance and Big Pharma Corporations).


The Goal: Middle-Class tax dollars CONTINUE to be siphoned off to Big-Business as our Nation moves ever closer to FASCISM .... complements of our Neo-Lib Government Circus.

[niceypoo]

8. A hollowed out husk will pass

[old mark]

9. I see this morning this has been unrec'd.

How fucking ignorant is that!

mark

[Laelth]

10. I'm kicking it for more exposure. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[styersc]

11. It will surely pass. Obama has screwed us at every turn on nearly

every issue. WHy would you expect anything else now?

[NorthCarolina]

12. At a cost of 1.5 million $$ per day to Insurance Companies to craft the current *reform* package,

you can bet it will pass. They need to get this behind them so that they can begin the process of recouping their exorbitant graft payments from their customers, both old AND new.

[niceypoo]

16. By the time it passes, there will be nothing left

Everything of consequence has already been stripped out