Primarying Obama

[woolldog]

Who are the leading candidates?

They need to be popular within the democratic party, good name recognition, a real democrat, able to raise the money etc.

Can anyone suggest some promising candidates?

[itsrobert]

1. Al Gore

But since Gore endorsed Obama last time early, it might be difficult.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. He endorsed *candidate* Obama

Different thing.

He might be a good candidate.

[ecstatic]

11. Did you vote for Gore or Nader? And you do realize Gore is to Obama's right?

Just as Dean is? It would be so nice if idealists would at least get their facts right before backing candidates.

[woolldog]

13. Gore has a spine.

and isn't to the right of Obama. That's 2 points in his favor right there.

Obama is to the right of Nixon, and slightly to the left of GWB.

[ecstatic]

16. You really should do some more research

You are very misinformed.

[woolldog]

22. You really should do some research yourself.

You are very misinformed.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. What are you talking about?!?! Gore is one of the founders of the DLC movement!

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Incredibly misinformed!!! Must be a full moon again

[MannyGoldstein]

28. Gore and Dean have a fetish for gutting Social Security?

They may be right-wing Democrats, but they are are Democrats.

[ecstatic]

29. Were you under a rock when Clinton and Gore cut medicare?

:shrug:

[jenmito]

33. And there were no complaints from liberals in Congress. n/t

[digidigido]

49. Do you know what you're talking about?

Neither Nader or Gore is to the right of Obama

[StevieM]

10. Gore did not endorse early. He waited until the primaries wer over, and he never even hinted,

during the Clinton/Obama primary, that he was on Obama's side.

[itsrobert]

12. Ok, maybe I was thinking John Kerry

correct?

[JoePhilly]

2. Make sure to pick people who actually WANT to run.

[Raine1967]

26. This would appear to be the first issue to deal with.

The second is: I don't believe the DNC wants to primary him.

As a member of the Democratic party, I know I don't.

[Drale]

3. Nobody is going to primary him because

even though people may be pissed at him if the Repukes were allowed to have a president at this time it would be 10000000% worst. They would not just cut Social Security, they would completely dismantle it. At this point we will just have to make sure we can win both the House and the Senate back so there is no temptation to do anything bad.

EDIT: for spelling, still getting used to typing on my new laptop.

[caledesi]

7. Well said Drale ! nt

[styersc]

14. Hell NO!!!

No more "it could be worse"!!!

No more cash, no more volunteering, no more sneers from the neighbors as I display the only Democratic yard signs in this heavily Republican neighborhhod.

I've taken the last arrow for spineless liars who use progressives for cash and labor and then laugh in our faces when we expect them to keep their promises!!!!!

[Drale]

53. Ok vote republican but

when you lose everything and mean everything short of your life, don't come complaining to me, because I will not feel sorry for you. I am a realist and I can see the path that will lead to good in the future. I take the long view of things, something most Americans, including you it seems, can not do anymore.

[treestar]

59. Very true. People should be looking at Obama as

the check and balance stopping this instead of judging against him because Republicans are being Republicans. Just as the D congress of 2007-9 was a check and balance against chimpy getting more wars and other horrors.

[muffin1]

4. Elizabeth Warren

[Lasher]

5. Only one candidate, Randall Terry, has so far declared his candidacy against Obama in the Primary

But that means the Primary is not a foregone conclusion, as some people wish.

[mkultra]

19. oh, i think they mean serious candidates.

there have almost always been opponents, its serious opponents that do the damage. Hey, if you want to support terry, go for it.

[Lasher]

23. I know just what woolldog means.

But I hope you and he won't mind if I don't consider Obama the Democratic nominee until after the Primary is over.

[caledesi]

8. No...bec the other choices are so bad and not real smart! nt

[thelordofhell]

9. How about you?

Yep, time to primary the most popular Democratic President since JFK.........good call morans.

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[golfguru]

15. Hillary Clinton!

She will bring back the peace and prosperity we enjoyed during her husband's 8 years in WH.

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Bullshit

We need a left-of-center Dem that will bring about real structural reform. The Clinton years were smoke and mirrors as conservative policies started under Reagan continued to eat away at our nation and continue to this day.

[woolldog]

25. Who? nt

[Cali_Democrat]

27. The best case...have become a Dem.

[golfguru]

31. 22 million jobs created under Bill Clinton

and most of those jobs went to middle class.
Most people prefer a job than depend on government
safety net. And Clinton did that splendidly.

[polmaven]

57. Oh, but who needs

jobs and a budget surplus? Who needs programs like DADT to stop the deliberate accusations, true or not, that were leading to dishonorable discharges? Who needed DOMA to prevent the likely march toward a Constitutional amendment to define marriage as being between one man and one woman? Clinton/Gore were just NOT FAR ENOUGH TO THE LEFT!!......

[GSLevel9]

43. shhhhh...

hillary haters will jump you.

Truth be told 1993-2000 were the greatest years of my life.... best economy, best everything.

[golfguru]

44. I am just quoting FACTS...I will take the fire anyday for stating

cold, hard facts. Only legitimate criticism can be for opinions. Those who attack facts are....well I will hold my tongue.

[Beacool]

54. Hear, hear!!!!

But don't tell the rabid Clinton haters on this board. As I have said repeatedly, ask anyone on the street whether they would like to go back to the 90s and anyone who lived through those years would give a resounding YES!!!

;-)

[Beacool]

55. She would be the only one who would have a realistic chance.

The blank slate of 2008 is no more and now Obama has a record that people can go after.

Regardless, Hillary will not do a Ted Kennedy. It is not her style, she knows how it would divide the party.

Alas, we are stuck with Obama for the duration.

:-(

[styersc]

17. I hope we get a candidate who keeps us in Iraq and Afghanistan,

keeps Guantanamo open, holds military tribunals instead of trials, cuts medicare, medicaid and social security, protects the rich from having to contribute in solving economic problems and is willing to cave to Republicans on every and all issues!!!!

oh wait.... we've got that......

[Sheepshank]

18. unoriginal, unclever, wish I could un rec.

You are on an anti Obama roll today aren't you!

[great white snark]

21. You forgot untrue.

Maybe this deal will include funds to close Guantanamo, which Obama ordered closed HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.

[CakeGrrl]

24. I wonder...what IS it about today?

It's a loooooooong way to August 2. I think a lot of people will look, say, excessive about then.

[jefferson_dem]

30. LOL!

More trolling... Fail.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. Unrec! So tired of this Obama Derangement bullshit! The president will be the Democratic

Party nominee in 2012 and that's that!!!!

[Beacool]

56. And more's the pity...........

:shrug:

[Tx4obama]

35. UNrec.

President Obama has had an awesome day today and you post a BS OP like this?

Did you miss his speech/press conference today?

Did you miss the fact that President Obama signed the Repeal of DADT certification today?

[vaberella]

36. UNREC. Can you go away?! You keep spewing the same shit. Think productive.

Like getting these Teabaggers out of office.

[woolldog]

39. not going anywhere.

[vaberella]

40. Yup, and staying unproductive. Rather than focusing on eliminating teabaggers, you want Obama out.

Pushing a Republican and teabagger meme. Obama is the problem. But let's ignore the real problem.

[Creideiki]

50. I can multi-task

Can't you? Shouldn't a president be able to do more than one thing? Now where did I get that idea? Oh, yeah.

[LaydeeBug]

37. Nope. And you don't see me making excuses for the man

He may have stumbled. After all, I am not stupid enough to think this was some sort of master plan.

But he has not fumbled....YET.

Until he does, there is still hope.

[boxman15]

38. There are no leading candidates.

He will not have a primary challenge. And if he does, we are stupid enough to get the Teabagger Washington that will be the end-result.

[Cherchez la Femme]

41. Dr. Dean, or

Bernie Sanders come on over.

[onpatrol98]

42. No one in their right mind...

"popular within the democratic party, good name recognition, a real democrat, able to raise the money"


No one in their right mind would primary a popular president. And, for most democrats, he is still popular. It would be political suicide.

[Creideiki]

45. Once again...

[Creideiki]

46. Schweitzer (MT Governor)

Although moderate, he also fights Republicans. Wouldn't that be novel.

[Creideiki]

47. Shumlin (VT Governor)

Actually delivered single-payer to his state.

Granted the conservatives here would cry like Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

[Creideiki]

48. Christine Gregoire (WA Governor)

I'd need more input from friends in Washington before a wholehearted endorsement.

[Creideiki]

51. Feingold, although I think he's best suited to replace Snot Walker.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

52. Lunacy seems to be leading the pack.

[treestar]

58. too late at this point

anyone who was going to do it has to be up and running by now.

apparently there are no big name Democrats who really want the Republicans to win the WH.

[cloudythescribbler]

60. we need someone to act as Al Lowenstein did in 68 -- plenty of names were raised in another thread