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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:39 PM Original message |
For those who still don't get it: Dean is advocating a FASTER way to pass HCR |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Now, THAT I could live with... |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That is exactly how I understood Dean, Peggy |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Dig it! n/t |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Speaking of abortion |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Because they either 1. have completely caved to the right, or 2, agree with him. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. If the drones lying about Dr. Dean admitted that, Who would tell me I can't have my pony? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. You'd deliver half a bill that way, IF it worked |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. uh, Dean IS saying make the changes now. Is anyone paying attention? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. I would ask if Dean understands what Harkin, a fifth term Senator said |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Even if that were true- put those provisions in a separate bill- DARE ANYONE TO BLOCK THEM |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. Then it'll need 60 votes to avoid a filibuster. OOPS, that's wrong. Only 50 votes. (See link) |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. Dean (WAPO)- Dec 17. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Dean wants reconciliation |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. That's what he kept saying on Keith's show earlier this week. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is like drug re-importing |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. There are limitations on reconciliation that might prevent a lot of the bill |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Perhaps, but then you wrap that up in a bill that you pass in regular session. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Right, pass regulations via regular process and price controls via reconciliation |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. The limitations on what can pass reconciliation would strip the bill down no doubt |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. I think you're the one who doesn't get it. Reconciliation is only for budget |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Enlighten us all... what does "budget related" mean? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. He doesn't know- because the definitions themselves are ambiguous |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. If we had some aggressive leadership in the party, this thing would already be done. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. It is indeed a matter of political will and fortitude (or whether Dems want to keep their majority) |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. At this point, I really wonder if the Dems *want* to keep the majority |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Considering how many have been behaving- on issue after issue |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. ANWR drilling was not passed under reconciliation |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. But NOT because the process wasn't available AND used |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. What ? They couldn't pass it under reconciliation which took 50 votes |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Get your facts straight- makes for more effective apoligias (60 votes not required) |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Heck, he should listen to Bernie Sanders! Who disagrees with him |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. yes, he is and reconcilation is the smart way to get this achieved |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. good idea! |
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