How would you rank Obama among Democratic Presidents since the 1930s?

[Onlooker]

Roosevelt
Truman
Kennedy
Johnson
Carter
Clinton
Obama

[tularetom]

1. Better than Carter

That's all I can say for sure at the moment.

[Onlooker]

2. Third

- He's better than Truman, who murdered uncountable numbers of Japanese civilians.
- He's better than Carter, who actually started the Republican economic policies by destroying the trucking industry for truck drivers and starting the deregulation of big business.
- He's better than Clinton, who has no signature accomplishments other than a good economy.
- And he's tied with Johnson who let the Vietnam War rage on.

So, I guess he's tied for third with Johnson, better than I was expecting.

[ProSense]

5. Actually,

"He's better than Clinton, who has no signature accomplishments other than a good economy."

Clinton has three signature accomplishments related to the economy: repealing Glass-Steagall, enacting the Enron loophole and NAFTA.

[bigwillq]

7. All hail Democrats!

:eyes:

:rofl:

Way to go, Big Dog!

[tblue]

18. Clinton would be reelected if he could run again.

I would vote for him over a lot of other Dems.

[bigwillq]

20. Write him in in 2012.

:hi:

[Donnachaidh]

27. Yeah, that NAFTA thing didn't cause any problems for this country, huh?

Cap'n Nafta would win again? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[GSLevel9]

44. I'd vote for him!!! I luvs me some big dog... nt

[polichick]

8. Ouch - take that, Bubba!

[Big Blue Marble]

23. Why ProSense,

you forgot the forth signature issue: the "reform" of welfare.

[MannyGoldstein]

33. And when will Obama reverse 1 and 3?

1. is a rhetorical question, I know your answer.

[CakeGrrl]

3. Non-applicable until the President has completed his terms. -nt

[woolldog]

4. Eighth best.

lol

[CakeGrrl]

9. No surprise, considering

how 'Presidential' you thought Bachmann looked in her shiny gray suit.

:rofl:

[Tx4obama]

13. Touche` . LOL :) n/t

[polichick]

6. Oh, I don't know - cutest?!

[ChiciB1]

10. Does NOT Compute??? He Scares Me More & More... n/t

[MichDem10]

11. FDR was THE MAN!!

[blueknight]

12. you mean

he really is a democrat? wow! could have fooled me!

[FrenchieCat]

14. So-Called Grassroots hard at work

trying hard to find a way to lose the upcoming elections,
just like they assisted in helping lose the last 2010 elections, the 2004 elections,
the 2000 elections, the 1984 elections, the 1980 elections, and the 1968 elections, etc....!


How farting brilliant! :applause:

Roosevelt - Advanced Civil Rights about 1/100 of a millimeter in about 12 years in office. Shut out most of the African-American community from Social Security as a compromise with Southern Democrats in order to pass Social Security. Was in office 12 years, and had a majority Democratic edges in both houses while there. :applause:


Truman - Dropped the Atomic Bomb on Japan in order to end a war. :applause:


Kennedy - Murdered while in his 3rd year in office. Had done less than Obama has done, and Obama still has till this November.


Johnson - Won due to Murder of JFK, and due to this, was able to force Civil Rights via 3 seperate steps through congress. Embroiled us deep into Vietnam, and declined to run for another term due to it, paving the way for Nixon's election.


Carter - 21% Interest rates and Oil Shortage. Was Political outmaneuvered by Kennedy via a primary and then by Reagan via Iran Hostage crisis. :applause:


Clinton - Happened to be President during the dotcom Bubble, which created jobs (he didn't create those jobs). Signed to do away with glass Steagall banking laws (which eventually led to 2008 banking meltdown), instituted DADT, DOMA, NAFTA, Telecommunications Act of 1996 (paving the way for Cable News gone wild which has undue influence over our elections). Signed into law
Welfare Reform. Impeached for lying about a Blow job. :applause:


Obama - Passed Health Care reform that none of the other Presidents were able to do, and which prevents insurance companies from denying insurance for pre-existing conditions, and allows children to remain covered by their parents' insurance until the age of 26, and provides subsidies for over 30 million poor who cannot afford insurance. Also expansed Medicaid to all individuals under age 65 who are up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level. Killed Osama Bin Laden, something that Clinton nor Bush were able to do. Withdrew the majority of troups from Iraq and set a timetable for Afghanistan. Repealed DADT which had been installed under Clinton. Signed Financial Reform law, established Credit Card Bill of Rights, eliminated subsidies to private lender middlemen of student loans, increased pell grants and created the first ever Bureau of Consumer Protection. Cut the cost of Medicare prescription by 50%. Extended same sex partners federal employee benefits and appointed more openly Gay officials than any other President. Passed the Stimulus and saved 3 million jobs lost by the last fucked up Republican President. Lifted restrictions granting Cuban Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send remittances to the island. Created more Private sector jobs via incentives in 2010 than Bush had created in 8 years. Allowed first ever Disclosures of White House Visitors to the public. Reversed 'global gag rule'. Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, giving the FDA the authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing, and sale of tobacco for the first time . Reduced Crack Cocaine sentencing to same as powder Cocaine. Cut down on Nuclear arsenal via Start Treaty. Increased average fuel economy standards from 27.5mpg to 35.5mpg, starting in 2016. Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Did this in less than 2.6 years, and while the Right and the Left had their foot up his ass. :boring:

[shellgame26]

25. just 1 correction

That's 55MPG!

[MannyGoldstein]

36. FDR: first woman cabinet member

and his most influential.

Passed Social Security.

I could go on about your post, but you get the idea.

[Vattel]

15. Carter was the best

State murder at an all-time low under him.

[Moostache]

16. Sadly the Democrats get worse with time...

The sole exception to this would be elevating Kennedy/Johnson (Great Society / Equal Rights) above Truman:

FDR
JFK/LBJ
Truman
Carter
Clinton
Obama

Obama has sold out more campaign pledges and promises and core beliefs of progressives in 2 1/2 years than FDR even DREAMED of in 12+...say no more squire.

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[ClassWarrior]

30. (posted in the wrong place)

[boxman15]

17. It's way too soon to tell.

Plus, people tend to look at the negatives more often in the present, and tend to ignore them the farther away the person's presidency gets. So it's too early. If I had to guess how it will end up looking:

FDR
JFK
Obama/LBJ (kinda close)
Truman
Clinton
Carter

[libodem]

21. Obama is the best

Of what we've got. He is working hard. You can see it.

[Big Blue Marble]

24. Yes, he is hard working.

But who is he working for? That is the question.

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[robcon]

26. Carter was the worst.

He couldn't get out of his own way. His (publicly-voiced) obsession with the hostages empowered the Iranians.

[ClassWarrior]

31. Thanks for clinging to 35 year old Rape-Publican framing.

:hi:

NGU.

[MannyGoldstein]

34. A family could live well on a single median income under Carter

Not so bad.

[BklnDem75]

28. Thanks for the confirmation

Fringe. McGovern and Mondale probably has a higher spot for many in this poll.

[great white snark]

29. Obama would rank best Republican on a DU poll.

"RANK" is a good word to describe DU polls.

[Lyric]

32. 6th

[blueclown]

35. I'd put him down on the list

FDR
Truman
LBJ
Kennedy
Clinton
Obama
Carter

Why anybody has Kennedy at the top of their list, ahead of LBJ, is beyond me. What did Kennedy ever accomplish that rivals LBJ? Kennedy's celebrity rivals that of Reagan, and that celebrity is not based in accomplishments, just "mythology".

[bvar22]

37. Throw in a couple of Republicans like Eisenhower and even Nixon,

and Obama sinks even farther.

I NEVER thought I would be looking back on Old Iron Assed LBJ as the MOST Liberal President of the last half-century.
THAT really shows How Far to The Right the New Democrat Centrist party has taken our country.



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone

photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed


"By their WORKS you will know them."


Solidarity!



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[Vidar]

38. Last.

[inna]

43. without any doubt, and by far

[Philippine expat]

39. Got anything lowere then 7th??

[TheKentuckian]

40. Other: Both Clinton and Obama are just extensions of Reagan.

There has been no Democratic President since Carter and he was marginal.

[MissDeeds]

41. Obama is a Democrat???

:rofl:

The evidence is clearly to the contrary.

[stevenleser]

42. Majority opinion of those without ODS is second. I think that is probably right. n/t