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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:51 AM
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Looks like the rethugs are going to shot themselves in the foot in 2012 by nominating the wrong guy
According to PPP I know it is to early for polling the 2012 Presidential race but I don't think these numbers will change much up until then Romney has the best chance against the President because he leads him among independents. http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-tops-perry.html
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:56 AM
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1. Six months ago, did we think that Libya, Egypt, and Tunisia
would have new governments stemming from popular uprisings? Things can change very quickly when people are very angry.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:59 AM
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2. So you think the evil despot Obama will be thrown out by angry rebels?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:23 AM
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5. Is that what I wrote?
I don't see it. Strange.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:04 AM
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11. So what change to you anticipate ??
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:47 PM
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13. I don't anticipate anything in particular. I only know that we live in
volatile times, and that very big things will happen in the next few years. I don't know if they'll be good things or bad things, I hope we can have an effect on the outcome.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:49 PM
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14. I Do See UK Like Violence If The Economy Doesn't Improve
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 04:01 PM
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15. Where?
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 04:01 PM by JoePhilly
One of the big differences between the US, England, and some of these other countries, is that we have a much larger population and we are far more geographically disperse.

And so, who exactly does the angry mob go after?

Do they invade New Your and Wall Street? Or DC?

And then, when they "go rebel" ... who do they remove?

The reason I think this entire line fails is that our government is set up in such a distributed fashion, that its not ONE THING.

Let's take the civil rights movement ... or the Vietnam war protests. Each of these events had major impacts, but neither fundamentally changed the US government.

Also ... each of these had very clear political lines that could be drawn.

The economy does not provide such lines. And so, when people take to the streets, are they the Tea Party or the angry left ... and do those 2 groups JOIN ... I seriously doubt that.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 04:04 PM
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16. The LA Riots, The Watts Riots, The Liberty City Riots Are All Models
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 04:05 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
And they had the same catalyst as the U K riots.

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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:05 AM
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3. by 2012 of next year I'm predicting gas prices will be around 2.95 a gallon and job growth
will improve and if this happens I don't see the voters giving another Texas Governor a chance to fuck things up again.This Perry guy reminds you to much of GW Bush and that ain't good
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:09 AM
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4.  2.95 a gallon and job growth will improve by 2012 . . .
what are you seeing that makes you think this?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:26 AM
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6. well as far as gas prices they always go down before an election plus Libya
as far as jobs Obama has been creating jobs since he's been in office just not enough but I think that will improve by 2012 just my gut filling
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:36 AM
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8. they may go down but, that is quite the drop. I look forward to both these things
happening.

your gut feeling. . . I was hoping for something more concrete but, OK.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:35 AM
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7. New scuttlebutt this morning in the WP about Caribou Barbie running.....
KKKarl Rove for one thinks she will run. May just be wishful thinking on his part but nevertheless it is telling about how weak the current the Repub candidate field is. No way would Caribou Barbie have a chance at this late date if there were even one very strong candidate.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:00 AM
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10. She can't win and she knows it ...
She can only roam on the fringes and hijack events for so long.

She isn't serious about it, because she knows she can't win. She knows her negatives, she knows the polls, and frankly, she has no interest in it for real. If she did, she would have worked harder to build up an organization that can win.

She has to run to keep at the forefront of "conservatism" and as such make the good $$$.

That is ALL it is to her, the celebrity stuff is a real bonus, but end of the day, she is all about making the $$$.

She sits this out, the race begins in earnest without her, she gets backbenched.

She will stay out, and in her protective bubble avoiding any questions as long as she can. She runs, throws bombs, the when she has to bow out she gets to play the "liberal press being mean to the conservative woman" victim card.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:57 AM
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9. Do they even have a right guy?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:20 AM
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12. Right -- I Can See Romney Beating Obama
but not most of the others. On the other hand, no one thought McCain would be the nominee either.
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